Official Israel Vs. Iran 2025 thread: First post updates! US/Israel attacks set Iran back months at best. Ceasefire in effect. Everybody wins(?)

JamesJabdi

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So how can you quantify Israel was getting mollywhopped, if Iran wasn’t getting hammered with their elite military commanders and scientists, air defense and infrastructure getting destroyed?

Israel knew their limitations in not having bunker busting weaponry. Which was the tooling they needed to attack the nuclear facilities. It was not a surprise their weapons couldn’t penetrate the mountains, it was well known they would have asked for military support. It is not the humans element of the IRGC being destroyed and easily placed that is the biggest outcome here. But the ease of it happening in 2 days. Israel have suffered no military losses, Mossad has infiltrated Iran from a ground, technology and personnel level. IAF have willfully flown sorties in their country with not plane shot down, let alone a bullet being fired.

It was not because they were losing control, to the extent the Ayatollah was dead to rights and this war would have been finished with a different outcome.

Israel has not suffered military losses? :mjlol:

"The goverment of Israel placed special restrictions on the way journalists and editors can report the impact of Iranian strikes on Israel".....fall for Israeli propaganda brehs. Iran was hitting their infrastructure and military installations to the point they BANNED journalists from reporting on it. Thats how you know they were getting MOLLYWHOPPED.

You on here talking like Iran started this shyt.... ISRAEL DID! After all that shyt they were talking only for them to beg America to join.....even the American attack on Fordow has been said by multiple sources, including israel, to be a major flop.

Israels looking even worse on the international stage and The regime in iran still standing with more reasons to get nuclear.....keep talking that nonsense like Israel didnt get whopped though :umad:
 

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But after all this, now not only do they still have and control a significant amount of enriched uranium.

You need centrifuges and those were destroyed.


Not only has the VP and the Defense secretary both admitted they have no idea where it even is.



IAEA chief expects 'very significant damage' at Iran's Fordow site​


At this time, no one, including the IAEA, is in a position to have fully assessed the underground damage at Fordow," Grossi said in a statement to an emergency meeting of the International Atomic Energy Agency's 35-nation Board of Governors.
The IAEA has not been able to carry out inspections in Iran since Israel started its military strikes on nuclear facilities there on June 13.
"Given the explosive payload utilised and the extreme(ly) vibration-sensitive nature of centrifuges, very significant damage is expected to have occurred," Grossi added.


Also that’s not what Vance said

“Our goal was to bury the uranium, and I do think the uranium is buried,” he said. “But our goal was to eliminate the enrichment and eliminate their ability to convert that enriched fuel into a nuclear weapon.”

“So many of the folks who have focused on the highly enriched uranium,” he added. “The main focus, Bret, has been to destroy their enrichment capacity because we don’t want that 60 percent uranium to become 90 percent uranium.”






Iran stans made up that no damage had occurred at the military facilities. That’s clearly not the case.

but Iran will probably speed up the process towards building a weapon

Main nuclear facilities damaged, Russia confirming they shouldn’t have a bomb and top military and nuclear leadership killed. Yet they are going to speed up? What?




The Iranian regime is still in place and now they'll be moving even faster to nuclear capability but now in complete secrecy.
Israel snuck dozens of mossad agents into the country using contacts within Iran to assassinate it’s top military advisors yet Iran can keep its nuclear plans a secret? You gonna hide from 21st century drones and satellites?


The US knows what the Ayatollah had for breakfast this morning homie :pachaha:
 

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Iran has no more nuclear scientists. Those were the only few in a country of 90,000,000 :troll:

Because that’s how it works, if you’re the leading scientist that means that you are the sole scientist. It’s not a chain of command or anything like that . :mjlol:

They are idiots.....Israel been killing Iranian scientists for the last 20+ years but they wouldnt know that because they are Zionist weirdos who believe in anything Netanyahu/Israel tells them

 

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Israel has not suffered military losses? :mjlol:

"The goverment of Israel placed special restrictions on the way journalists and editors can report the impact of Iranian strikes on Israel".....fall for Israeli propaganda brehs. Iran was hitting their infrastructure and military installations to the point they BANNED journalists from reporting on it. Thats how you know they were getting MOLLYWHOPPED.

You on here talking like Iran started this shyt.... ISRAEL DID! After all that shyt they were talking only for them to beg America to join.....even the American attack on Fordow has been said by multiple sources, including israel, to be a major flop.

Israels looking even worse on the international stage and The regime in iran still standing with more reasons to get nuclear.....keep talking that nonsense like Israel didnt get whopped though :umad:
Tel Aviv looks absolutely devastated

 

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Wonder if our intelligence community still washed. I remember in early 2000s, Bush was taking credit for anything accomplished in Iraq, but the US wasn't able to do major stuff like capturing Saddam without Qatari and Kuwaiti spies doing us a solid.
 

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I'm at a loss for how things don't look good for Iran. They've lost some people no doubt. But if I pay attention to the main goal that every Western country has been focused on, they say over and over "Iran cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons"

But after all this, now not only do they still have and control a significant amount of enriched uranium. Not only has the US VP and the Defense secretary both admitted they have no idea where it even is. but Iran will probably speed up the process towards building a weapon. And now they'll flat out refuse to engage with any type of international watchdog or provide any type of transparency after they saw how it didn't matter how much they cooperated since they still got bombed. What did the US and Israel actually gain ?

The Iranian regime is still in place and now they'll be moving even faster to nuclear capability but now in complete secrecy.

It's amazing how these people don't realize this. Nothing they wanted to accomplish worked out they way they wanted.

People finally see israel for what they are, they also now know Trump is israel bytch.
 

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I'm at a loss for how things don't look good for Iran. They've lost some people no doubt. But if I pay attention to the main goal that every Western country has been focused on, they say over and over "Iran cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons"

But after all this, now not only do they still have and control a significant amount of enriched uranium. Not only has the US VP and the Defense secretary both admitted they have no idea where it even is. but Iran will probably speed up the process towards building a weapon. And now they'll flat out refuse to engage with any type of international watchdog or provide any type of transparency after they saw how it didn't matter how much they cooperated since they still got bombed. What did the US and Israel actually gain ?

The Iranian regime is still in place and now they'll be moving even faster to nuclear capability but now in complete secrecy.
They have always been allowed enriched uranium. It’s the amount of it and the enrichment levels that are the issue.

Yes they will probably rebuild, and we will be here again in 5 years, because Iran has a civilian nuclear program which will be under scrutiny with or without an agreement.

It’s like saying you cannot bake a cake, even though you have a kitchen, eggs, flour and other ingredients. You will always have the ability to bake a cake, but for now you’re just making scramble eggs, bread and cookies. It is impossible to completely stop the threat of weapon grade uranium being developed, but I can keep blowing up your kitchen as soon as I know you have got the icing sugar and sprinkles out - which is what we have witnessed. Israel have said they have set the Iranian nuclear weapon (or general) program back 3 years and they have sent a message to Iran that it could get worse for them if they continue.

The loss of the nuclear material is an issue if it is found to be actually exported. But they cannot continue to enrich that and more uranium if the facilities are destroyed. So if this buys the west time for a proper agreement, then that is good. I am not sure it was worth it though.
 

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It's amazing how these people don't realize this. Nothing they wanted to accomplish worked out they way they wanted.

People finally see israel for what they are, they also now know Trump is israel bytch.
Nuclear Facilities were not directly hit by US forces in a planned attack?

Iran has no control of thir airspace and any building can be hit at will by the US?

The Ayotollah is not in hiding?


Iran's retaliation was to inform the US before they strike so there would be no US casualties?


Your spin is worse than the Iranian rep at the UN and the Ayotollah when they said how they would address the US

:russ:
 
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