Official Israel Vs. Iran 2025 thread: First post updates! US, Israel attacks set Iran back months at best. Ceasefire in effect. Everybody wins(?)

Dallas' 4 Eva

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So basically Netanyahu started this bullshyt with Iran trying to drag us into a war and for the most part with the exception of bombing three empty facilities the US didn't fall for the bait. All this for what? So Netanyahu doesn't get voted out? While militarily this that big of an L for anyone(although it does look like both countries got a lot of property damage done to them), politically this is a massive L for Israel and the US by proxy because we should have listened to the rest of the world and stayed out of it. The only person who didn't know what the fukk they were doing in this situation was Trump; Bibi and Khamenei(sp?) knew exactly what they were doing Trump got played fortunately he was able to only get played a little, not a lot by dragging us into a major war.
 

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Because it's not gonna happen so why vote? It will just be propaganda for republicans . Until republicans get on board he cannot be impeached
Because you want to demonstrate to your base that you're fighting Trump even if you'll lose.

The democrats are not serious about winning.
 

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I'm going to reply to you respectfully since you've been respectful to others in this thread.

I am under no illusion, that Iran has done reprehensible abuse and violence to their own people and neighbors in the region (Syria, Lebanon, Yemen).

Here is where we differ. A regime change has rarely worked. Libya? Iraq? No thank you. People can feel how they feel about their government. Israel wants to play Civilization? Fine, but they do it on their own. Without America.

I am not afraid of a nuclear Iran. Just like I am not afraid of a nuclear Russia, China, North Korea. Using a nuclear weapon in this day and age is suicide. Israel, is afraid. Why? Because if Iran WERE to use one before being obliterated, it wouldn't be aimed at Europe, Asia, or the United States. It would be Israel.

In addition, Mark Dubowitz was against the Iran Nuclear deal that Obama made, that kept Iran in check in the first place. Remember, even Israel's "allies" were saying it was working. The IAEA said it was working. Who tore it up? Trump, with backing from Netanyahu. Why doesn't Israel have nuclear inspections?

Rhetorical question.

Israel is the one manipulating the American government for it's own ends. I do not like, nor appreciate that. So we can agree to disagree.
This is why I suggest to listen to the podcast. In this case it is not about who was right or wrong, it’s just the pure information.

Fair play if you haven’t, but it did shine a light on what you had asked.

But ask you this bro, if we are celebrating the removal of the enriched uranium, are we then admitting that Israel was right? In the sense of the the 60~% enriched uranium actually DID exist and was well in contradiction of a civilian nuclear requirement? Because if we are, why would they enrich uranium to that extent?

That is my return question to your “no proof of nuclear weapons”. It’s because they do not exist in its entirety now. But 100% will do as they enriched the uranium to levels beyond civilian use.

It is put forward that they are past the slowest part of uranium enrichment (up to 60%) and getting to high grade enrichment (90%) takes less time - which is what the Israeli intelligence acted on.

Whilst you are not scared of the Iranian nuclear threat, your country is, as are some other nations in the Middle East.
 
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