Official Israel Vs. Iran 2025 thread: First post updates! US/Israel attacks set Iran back months at best. Ceasefire in effect. Everybody wins(?)

[Nkrumah Was Right]

Not if they’re calling for the destruction of two countries. Iran has called for death to Israel and America, it is within those countries rights to keep Iran in check.

It’s crazy people are reluctant to see the differences in the outwardly approach from different nuclear states.

Israel gave nuclear technology to Apartheid South Africa

Stop acting like they’re a responsible actor. They’re not part of the NPT either

Are you a Boer?

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

In fact, by giving belligerent Apartheid South Africa nukes, this was an attempt to co-sign the destruction of the black race

Israel is our perpetual enemy and we should never forgive or forget

 

[StretfordRed]

Israel gave nuclear technology to Apartheid South Africa

Stop acting like they’re a responsible actor. They’re not part of the NPT either

Are you a Boer?

And Israel are also against Ukraine, who I support against the Russians. So as I have said multiple times in this thread, I am neither for nor against either side explicitly as I think it’s a grey area for all parties in evolved. Again a nuclear Israel is a lesser threat to the west than Iran is, them being in the NPT is troubling, but less of a worry than Iran is for reasons I explained before and I believe Israel are not the sabre ratter nuclear nation we as the west need worry about.

If you’re genuinely asking me which team I bat for, to be frank none of them, but Israel is the bigger evil. But Iran cannot throw rocks via their proxy organs and hide their hands when shyt hits the fan.

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

And Israel are also against Ukraine, who I support against the Russians. So as I have said multiple times in this thread, I am neither for nor against either side explicitly as I think it’s a grey area for all parties in evolved. Again a nuclear Israel is a lesser threat to the west than Iran is, them being in the NPT is troubling, but less of a worry than Iran is for reasons I explained before and I believe Israel are not the sabre ratter nuclear nation we as the west need worry about.

If you’re genuinely asking me which team I bat for, to be frank none of them, but Israel is the bigger evil. But Iran cannot throw rocks via their proxy organs and hide their hands when shyt hits the fan.

I understand that you claim to be Negropean but why do you back a civilization that hates your guts (the West). I hope you’re not French!

Is Israel giving nuclear weapons to a racist state focused on dominating Southern Africa and destabilizing other black countries not grounds to consider Israel an enemy to black peoples?

 

[StretfordRed]

I understand that you claim to be Negropean but why do you back a civilization that hates your guts (the West). I hope you’re not French!

Is Israel giving nuclear weapons to a racist state focused on dominating Southern Africa and destabilizing other black countries not grounds to consider Israel an enemy to black peoples?

No much worse, I am British

Question: Did Iran say: “Death to US, except black people”? I genuinely do not know. If a terrorist bomb went off in a tourist area for Americans (or where ever you’re from) would you think it would not affect you as you’re black?

Ditto for being black in China, Russia, or even if you could get into the country: North Korea. Do you think they care to exclude you from their destruction of the west, because you’re black ?

 

[Robbie3000]

I presume you’re American? I would like to know our future if the USSR and the communist countries in the world would have been successful against the West’s foreign policy after WW2.

You guys should do a lot of reading about how the Cold War changed things from a political aspect; which is where all our current foreign policies stem from. Then figure out where you and your subsequent family tree would be if Xi’s global ambitions were actually successful.

Can you tell me the last war that China started?

Then compare that answer to America’s never ending wars?

The only country that has ever used a nuclear bomb is the United Snakes of America.

The fact of the matter is China has never been a colonial power. That’s more than we can say for the warlike Europeans and Americans who can’t stop waging wars around the world.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Not if they’re calling for the destruction of two countries. Iran has called for death to Israel and America, it is within those countries rights to keep Iran in check.

It’s crazy people are reluctant to see the differences in the outwardly approach from different nuclear states.

You meet rhetoric with rhetoric. They 'say' death to America and Israel. Therefore, America can kill and bomb them indiscriminately is a lunatic take.

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

No much worse, I am British

Question: Did Iran say: “Death to US, except black people”? I genuinely do not know. If a terrorist bomb went off in a tourist area for Americans (or where ever you’re from) would you think it would not affect you as you’re black?

Ditto for being black in China, Russia, or even if you could get into the country: North Korea. Do you think they care to exclude you from their destruction of the west, because you’re black ?

You cannot compare Iran to Israel regarding the destruction of black life.

So you can stop dodging it, I’ll say this directly:

Has Iran helped a state as anti black as Apartheid South Africa, similar to how Israel gave nuclear weapons to Apartheid South Africa?

Just answer honestly. The answer is obviously no.

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

You meet rhetoric with rhetoric. They 'say' death to America and Israel. Therefore, America can kill and bomb them indiscriminately is a lunatic take.

British people, are lunatics. Even the so called Black British that UKIP will soon deport

 

[StretfordRed]

Can you tell me the last war that China started?

Then compare that answer to America’s never ending wars?

The only country that has ever used a nuclear bomb is the United Snakes of America.

The fact of the matter is China has never been a colonial power. That’s more than we can say for the warlike Europeans and Americans who can’t stop waging wars around the world.

Xi’s China is not just concerned being a global power via war, it is also economically. If you think China would hold hands with the west and play the understudy forever then I would like you to Google Hong Kong and Taiwan and why they want/wanted to reign in control there.

Then go and research their intelligence and AI progress, again find the reasons why they are putting their all in on those regions.

Then lastly look at their behaviour in Africa, again find out why they’re doing this. They are not just the carefree liberal communist Chinese you think they are.

You meet rhetoric with rhetoric. They 'say' death to America and Israel. Therefore, America can kill and bomb them indiscriminately is a lunatic take.

America has not indiscriminately bombed Iran smh. Maybe you are mistaking the country with Iraq.

 

[StretfordRed]

You cannot compare Iran to Israel regarding the destruction of black life.

So you can stop dodging it, I’ll say this directly:

Has Iran helped a state as anti black as Apartheid South Africa, similar to how Israel gave nuclear weapons to Apartheid South Africa?

Just answer honestly. The answer is obviously no.

And I have not supported Israel’s geopolitical approach either, I am not sure what your point is?

I’m in the UK so literally the “West” is Europe and America to me.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Xi’s China is not just concerned being a global power via war, it is also economically. If you think China would hold hands with the west and play the understudy forever then I would like you to Google Hong Kong and Taiwan and why they want/wanted to reign in control there.

Then go and research their intelligence and AI progress, again find the reasons why they are putting their all in on those regions.

Then lastly look at their behaviour in Africa, again find out why they’re doing this. They are not just the carefree liberal communist Chinese you think they are.


America has not indiscriminately bombed Iran smh. Maybe you are mistaking the country with Iraq.

Israel has and they are only able to thru US Support.

 

[StretfordRed]

British people, are lunatics. Even the so called Black British that UKIP will soon deport

Well for one UKIP were looking for independence from EU and the stopping of people born in Europe and not the UK.

If you want to make a point, at least try and be accurate.

 

[StretfordRed]

Israel has and they are only able to thru US Support.

Which again, military strikes are a gray zone for me. Targetting military HQs, radar sites, etc = fine.

Targeting civilian infrastructure because soldiers are hiding there = not fine.

I have never said in this thread the latter is fine and why I am more confused why these random talking points are coming up.

 

[AnonymityX1000]

Which again, military strikes are a gray zone for me. Targetting military HQs, radar sites, etc = fine.

Targeting civilian infrastructure because soldiers are hiding there = not fine.

I have never said in this thread the latter is fine and why I am more confused why these random talking points are coming up.

And I'm disagreeing with your lunacy. Pre-emptive strikes over rhetoric is barbaric.