Official Israel Vs. Iran 2025 thread: First post updates! US/Israel attacks set Iran back months at best. Ceasefire in effect. Everybody wins(?)

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You’re moving the goalposts. You said lost. Waiting til the US leaves and steamrolling the National Army in place is not a military defeat. It’s a strategic loss but not a military loss and those troops loss were over the course of almost two decades still wasn’t over over 8k. Most of the losses were during COIN operations when we were “nation building”

We did lose. Our objective was regime change and it failed.
 
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China and Russia are horrible friends
They are just doing what America does under Trump: Abandon their allies. So many similarities.

It’s a real simple strategy:

Step 1: fukk shyt up domestically
Step 2: fukk shyt up regionally
Step 3: End up in a bad spot economically
Step 4: Extract resources from your allies
Step 5: When they need help, hang them out to dry because you don’t want to/can’t leverage your power due to the previous situations
 

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Someone bring me up to Speed, Iran says they'd not have a Nuclear Program and USA just bombed something that shouldn't exist? Or was it more so they were doing more civilian focused Nuclear development, and the "west" feels they shouldn't have any nuclear what so ever hence that being bombed?
Both. Serious.
 

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uhhhhh no shyt..... we are all targets now
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Not according to Trump. No they aren’t suppose to retaliate.
 

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They both got steamrolled militarily. Name a single battle the Iraqis and Taliban won?
Bro I’m a marine and unfortunately you are very wrong about what you are implying. And Iran is a way bigger threat . We didn’t win anything in the Middle East. People will die. But you are welcome to sign up
 

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Both. Serious.

Iran was allowed to do Civilian focused development? This is what makes this stuff hard to discuss. Take Isreal out the picture and how people feel, but Iran is lying about what they are doing + funding all these terrorist reaking having in the Middle East and Africa? I ask because sometimes I feel people are defending Iran because how they feel about Israel
 
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