Official JOKER Thread (SPOILERS)

[Brozay]

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Breh...we don't even know if any of that was real


He prefers his past to be multiple choice because it's more fun that way

We know that the murders are real but even the whole involuntary laughter thing...for all we know that's bullshyt that he was telling the doctor at Arkham for sympathy, and he's just the same psychopath clown we know!!

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wait now you got me thinking i missed something during the last scene at Arkham... was he rehashing his whole story to her? by that point I was so giddy with how dope the movie was did I miss something there?!

 

[Brozay]

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the last 30 minutes tied it so well to the Batman world. With the nod to the Killing Joke and the ‘one bad day’ theme. Arthur talks about having a ‘bad few weeks’ to Murray. Nod to Dark Knight Returns with the whole talk show host setup. Obviously what went down with the Waynes and their death scene. Joker going to Arkham, which we ultimately know he’ll escape from. And just the general chaos he created in Gotham. You definitely left the movie knowing the Joker was born. shyt was dope how well it ended with Jokers ‘birth’, I just loved the Batman tie ins to complete it

 

[Sghost597]

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wait now you got me thinking i missed something during the last scene at Arkham... was he rehashing his whole story to her? by that point I was so giddy with how dope the movie was did I miss something there?!

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Todd did a great job of depicting Joker as a unreliable narrator with not only lying, but with his mental illness of delusion. Him coming to terms with it was brutal.

 

[Spades Of Aces]

This should’ve been called: Joker Begins Silly joke aside, this movie does leave a lot for the viewer to interpret, which makes it even more brilliant. I can’t see this being a one-off film. Especially when this Joker is finally getting the hang of things.

 

[Sghost597]

This should’ve been called: Joker Begins Silly joke aside, this movie does leave a lot for the viewer to interpret, which makes it even more brilliant. I can’t see this being a one-off film. Especially when this Joker is finally getting the hang of things.

Unless you want to get a chubby Joker. Phoenix ain't doing that again. Phoenix pulled a Bale Machinist for this role.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

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wait now you got me thinking i missed something during the last scene at Arkham... was he rehashing his whole story to her? by that point I was so giddy with how dope the movie was did I miss something there?!

That's what I feel like it was

Like he got captured and is in Arkham right now "incubating" while Bruce spends the next decade or so travelling the world and dealing with the effects of...what happened in that alley that night...

 

[Brozay]

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Todd did a great job of depicting Joker is an unreliable narrator with not only lying, but with his mental illness of delusion. Him coming to terms with it was brutal.

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yeah i definitely got that, I just wasn’t sure if i missed something at that last Arkham scene.

Mid movie I was actually frustrated how he was able to land the girl. I was like gtfoh with that lmao.

 

[Brozay]

I didn’t pick up on that, I wish I could watch that scene again @ExodusNirvana

Honestly by that point I was just giddy with how dope those past 30 mins were handled

 

[Sghost597]

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That's what I feel like it was

Like he got captured and is in Arkham right now "incubating" while Bruce spends the next decade or so travelling the world and dealing with the effects of...what happened in that alley that night...

Todd DC universe needs to be a thing. This is what they promised us with Synder's bum ass DCEU

 

[Spades Of Aces]

Unless you want to get a chubby Joker. Phoenix ain't doing that again. Phoenix pulled a Bale Machinist for this role.

I could see him doing it again, if the script is right. He mentioned that this was one of the best experiences he had in doing a movie.

 

[Sghost597]

I could see him doing it again, if the script is right. He mentioned that this was one of the best experiences he had in doing a movie.

I think if they did fo anything...

Todd would have to follow up with a Bruce Wayne film and center it around grief and building strength.

Then, Todd gonna have to save Joker and Batman for a 3rd film.

 

[Maude]

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Todd did a great job of depicting Joker as a unreliable narrator with not only lying, but with his mental illness of delusion. Him coming to terms with it was brutal.

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he set viewers up for it this when him and his moms was watching Murray Franklin. When he entered Sophie apartment the final time I was like damn, he was stalking this bytch the whole time

 

[Spades Of Aces]

I think if they did fo anything...

Todd would have to follow up with a Bruce Wayne film and center it around grief and building strength.

Then, Todd gonna have to save Joker and Batman for a 3rd film.

That makes sense: the second film, told from Batman’s perspective. Then everything coming together in the last one. A Batman/Joker Trilogy

 

[Art Barr]

Folks doing direct comparisons to Heath and Jack but that is exactly what you should stay away from, because most of these comparisons are really about the character's presentation and not the actor's performance (and in that light, Jared Leto always gets screwed because even though the performance is fine nobody cares about Trap Joker).

Phoenix' Joker doesn't really become the actual Joker until the third act, and I think you can argue even then he is still going through the transformation and it's not until the very end scene where we see the clown prince of crime fully embracing what he is. Comparing that to Heath's Joker who is fully formed from the start automatically creates a contrast in how the character needed to be played.

Side-note: I did see one huge missed opportunity in the story.

not sure what happened trying to quote this and reply.
I finally fixed the response coding.
anyway, after all that noob code editing.
i just had to say.

that spoiler tho.

fukk'N GAWD Level PROLIFIC POSTIN THO.


just fukk'n.

yes.

all the dc movies missed that.

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yes....fukk'n yes.
yes.

that is why dc sucks. As they do not really really know all the full way what to do with their shyt. Plus do not know who the real money maker in the room is at dc for their medium and to empower them fully. Just an incredible post. That moment.
just perfectly encapsulates everything wrong globally with dc. even if they port their precious p*ssy ass weirdo vertigo takes on everything as a last ditch effort. To milk the cows before the milk goes spoiled. Or whatever that country ass saying is down here. I loathe while being in the country. To recognize the degradation of civilization outside of an urban landscape. To the effect AMERICA as a landside.
outside any urban landscape is literally the same powder keg that allowed wild italian and german boys.
to become the uncivilized drugged up dogs.
that were the main bulk and direction of the nazi and roman armies. That span the world's piece of shyt globally dominated times.
as far as a direction for the world being captured by man.
in that,...we are at a time. Where that drugged up dog has now taken seat in a corporate global prison industrial economy lead ideal. Where it is now making every one into an orphan lead astray in the country hillside. Regardless of your economic standing. It is absence without reason.
once again on full display and it is poison.
wb/dc lives in absence without reason.
globally as a scope/directive as s company. When and if this company actually worked within factual reason. They would actually create a higher profit. Not to mention, if the whole world could be marketed a reason. To thwart this purposeful absence without reason corporate prison industrial economy directive. We could all actually prosper and division would cease. Even over time. As we would all gain reason and in that understanding. Now to tie this all in. To my past dc, meets absensce without reason global dialogue rants. Dc could easily fix a lot of their issues. If wb just let dc as a film division use absolute reason to create a reasonable number of films. To one day create a dc cinematic universe that is actually good. Plus actually creates the dc and wb quality dynamic globally for dc and wb two fold as well. As the point you hinted at took place in a number of their films. Systematically, where it is obvious. The people at wb act purposefully using absence of reason. When they need to enact the reasons from their catalog as to why. To create at least one blockbuster potential gateway high quality cannon based brand/property.

to close out on your point.
wb has always missed several components and periods to use reason.

plus could have easily made superior works. If they acted within high quality reason. As it pertains to their products. All their products employ absence without reason. Where as a consumer globaly. The consumer globally is turned off at the lack of purposeful consistency from the wb. To act within reason and also create a higher profit margin for themselves as well.

to your point.
yes. The joker should have done that.
two. This movie is hamfisted and just luckily is so period and Easter egg reveal eccentric. That it misses.
So many opportunities to get it all the way right. Yet i feel dc employed absence of reason. To once again never give you a high quality product. Just another relaunch gateway revenue grab based product.
as a decline to almost destruction of a draw scope/direction, purposefully.

to just compund on wb using purposeful absence of reason.
similarly to your joker comment. I felt in justice league. That when superman and especially wonder woman triumphantly came on screen in battle. you should have heard in theatres the tv for wonder woman theme and the supes eighties triumphant horn cinema ensemble. It was and is the gateway sonic markers of not only periods of time. they also directly symbolize in general every male and female internal idea.
of what the audio sound is for when the hero or heroine arrives. Wb and dc continue to use absence of reason. With every component of any product they have. Where they run in low quality revenue grab discovery relaunch legacy product fashion. where if they actually launched a global company direction high quality legacy product. That acted within profit content quality based reason. We and the wb. Would profit way beyond generating a billion Plus dollars on one product for one property. We would profit globally in something money can not ever buy. Including spoils that makes better sense in reason to us all.

 

[Sghost597]

100% co sign

These people saying that it will encourage mentally disturbed incels are completely missing the point

Just a way to appear blameless as how we treat strangers with illnesses and putting a label on them like they are damaged goods like autistic, incel, and etc. Those people need help, not be outcasted. As we get deeper into the mass shooting era. People are labeling and dissociating with people with the smallest hang ups. Sometimes hate doesn't need harmful words or violence. Silence and dissociating can be deafening.