Official Sacha Baron Cohen "Who Is America" Fukkery Thread

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need to get Borat/ALI G at 50 cent

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I dunno about the specific people complaining, but there's a legit gripe in there which deals with the fact that Sasha Baron Cohen, AFAIK, has no clear moral center and thus no ability to stay on message.

With his skills, the impact he could make is incredible. The gun skit. The mosque skit. The georgia representative making an utter fool of himself. The Cheney expose. That stuff is money. (And there are certain people on the left that can and should get such treatment too.)

But too often his "targets" are just stupid or, even worse, just hospitable. Like, not everyone is going to condemn every random idiot that sits down to dinner with them, because they've been raised that you shouldn't be rude to guests. Some of the scenes in the Borat movie weren't even a condemnation of the people in them, they were just pointing out how tolerant some people can be even when they're around asshats. And this dumb chick looked really dumb....but so? There are definitely people equally dumb who post here in some of the subforums. Does that make them bad people?

The worst I heard was with those people in Romania that he filmed for Borat when saying it was Kazakhstan. They didn't even want to do the things he made them do in the scene, like having animals in their homes, but they felt pressured to because he was the foreigner with the film crew. Most of what they said and did was what he made them say and do, and then he twisted it to mean something else and humiliated them. I've always had mixed feelings about him since then.

If he could stay on message and focus on exposing people who are actually ill-willed towards others, he'd be doing God's work. But he loses track of the narrative because he doesn't fully have one.
Part of the exposal is how people are either vanity, fame or consensus driven. Most of the shyt he pulls wouldn't work if he didn't have a camera crew. But once people know this is likely to be on TV they are willing to do stuff they nornally wouldn't do and it is all for the wrong reasons.
Vanity - "Wow, I'm going to be on TV. Let's make sure I make myself look good.'
Fame - "Wow this is going to be on TV, people will recognize me in the street and maybe give me special favors because of my TV appearance."
Consensus - "Wow, this might be on TV, let me make sure I'm agreeable and don't do anything that might be perceived as me rocking the boat."
 

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Pretty sure @NZA and @Shogun lived in AZ too

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im in az. kingman is very far northwest az and i never go there. those hicktowns have active klan activity, and my dad told me enough stories about how it was when he would go hunting in those parts in the 70s and 80s for me to stay out. nothing in that video surprises me.
 
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