Official Thread: El Paso and Dayton mass shootings; 8/9 2 mass shootings prevented

[OfTheCross]

I agree. But this is something much deeper than guns. Switzerland has a stunningly high rate of gun ownership — here's why it doesn't have mass shootings

This country has a mantra it's unwilling to let go of.

Swiss authorities decide on a local level whether to give people gun permits. They also keep a log of everyone who owns a gun in their region, known as a canton, though hunting rifles and some semiautomatic long arms are exempt from the permit requirement.

But cantonal police don't take their duty dolling out gun licenses lightly. They mightconsult a psychiatrist or talk with authorities in other cantons where a prospective gun buyer has lived before to vet the person.

People who've been convicted of a crime or have an alcohol or drug addiction aren't allowed to buy guns in Switzerland.

The law also states that anyone who "expresses a violent or dangerous attitude" won't be permitted to own a gun.

Gun owners who want to carry their weapon for "defensive purposes" also have to provethey can properly load, unload, and shoot their weapon and must pass a test to get a license.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

8chan founder demands site be shut down after shootings — The Washington Post

Cloudflare finally bailed on them

These SF tech companies are disgusting, literally dragged kicking and screaming to do the simplest decent things

 

[BoBurnz]

8chan founder demands site be shut down after shootings — The Washington Post

Cloudflare finally bailed on them

These SF tech companies are disgusting, literally dragged kicking and screaming to do the simplest decent things

Literally only did it because they're going public next month.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

I agree. But this is something much deeper than guns. Switzerland has a stunningly high rate of gun ownership — here's why it doesn't have mass shootings

This country has a mantra it's unwilling to let go of.

Another lazy argument that’s been pounded to dust

 

[Admiral Ackbar]

Shootings piss me off for days. So many POC around me buy in to the mental health cop out that the NRA pushes. People can't see the White agenda.

 

[sjankis630]

Damn. I had gone to see Tarantino's movie late Saturday night so I woke up late Sunday just before 11 am. I didn't check news or anything until around dinner time and that is when I discovered that the news about "a shooting" was Dayton and not fallout from the El Paso shooting.
They really got lucky this time. If the dude in Dayton had gotten into the bar before the police shot him we could have had another Orlando nightclub situation.
I hope these people never put their heads together and work in groups.

 

[Json]

I agree. But this is something much deeper than guns. Switzerland has a stunningly high rate of gun ownership — here's why it doesn't have mass shootings

This country has a mantra it's unwilling to let go of.

Exactly.

America’s belief in this enemy that’s just around the corner makes it easier to manipulate into gun culture(why do need more than two small handguns? One at home and one to carry?) Most of use aren’t hunters/ranchers anymore.

Then we have this mistrust of government so getting people to hand over their 20 guns in a national program wouldn’t work.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Trump is calling for immigration and background checks in a package deal


You can’t make this shyt up

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Trump is calling for immigration and background checks in a package deal


You can’t make this shyt up

He doubled down...in the worst way conceivably possible. He's basically saying that its their fault they ain't white.

 

[Gus Money]

I’m not saying that gun control is the only answer, brehs. I know there are issues uniquely American that also must be changed. But enforcing gun control at the same time can also help while the other issues eventually get addressed. Countries around the world have done it. It’s possible.

I think we have a better shot at changing things via gun buyback programs, outlawing manufacture of certain guns for civilian use, and adopting some/all of the Swiss rules listed above than we do of eliminating white supremacy.

I think we can all agree that doing nothing besides “thoughts and prayers” is the wrong answer.

Edit: also most Americans want stricter gun control. It’s not some pipe dream, the majority of people want this to happen.

 

[Robbie3000]

6 of the 9 victims are black.

Sadly black Trump sympathizers on this site thought the effects of all this hate and anger was not going to harm black people.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Sadly black Trump sympathizers on this site thought the effects of all this hate and anger was not going to harm black people.

you're actually quoting one of them

 

[tru_m.a.c]

 

[88m3]

I finally that extremely hard to believe sadly

 

[re'up]

Shootings Renew Debate Over How to Combat Domestic Terrorism

But former Obama administration officials say that the technology companies often balked at giving the government information that could help thwart international terrorists. Administration officials regularly met with companies like Google, Twitter and Facebook to convince them that their platforms were harboring and fostering violent extremists, with mixed results.

“We cannot deter ideologically motivated terrorists by prosecuting the ones who successfully carry out plots,” Rod J. Rosenstein, the former deputy attorney general, said in an email interview.

A decade ago, a Department of Homeland Security official, Daryl Johnson, produced an intelligence report saying that right-wing extremism was a rising terrorism threat. Some Republicans denounced the report, and Mr. Johnson has said that, under political pressure, work related to right-wing extremism came to a halt and his group at the department was disbanded.

I read the long form version detailing the above, and it was pretty fascinating, but entirely explaining of how the failures to address this happened.