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Because if you look at economic growth figures, quality of life figures, wages and other metrics which determine how life has improved for people, you'll see that free trade agreements have not only had no effect, but they've in many ways reduced those metrics in America. Not to mention that prices themselves have rarely fallen for many things. The only things that have increased are profit margins for corporations. Not much has fallen in price in 2016 compared to 1986 that isn't a direct result of innovation. Free trade and neo-liberalism has been one big scam.

Are Trade Agreements Good for Americans? - Room for Debate - NYTimes.com

Free trade hasn't been the detriment it's been made out to be. Only losers have been blue collar americans(who've been losing jobs since the manufacturing peak of the 70s) and certain businesses who couldn't compete. American consumers have benefited from the lower cost of goods. That's fact.
 

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Are Trade Agreements Good for Americans? - Room for Debate - NYTimes.com

Free trade hasn't been the detriment it's been made out to be. Only losers have been blue collar americans(who've been losing jobs since the manufacturing peak of the 70s) and certain businesses who couldn't compete. American consumers have benefited from the lower cost of goods. That's fact.

That's not a fact though :dahell:

Costs have decreased for some goods, and they steadily increased for most essential goods. Cheap crap or electronics got cheaper as a result of free trade in some cases yes, but many consumer essentials increased in price. For you to say they benefited is nonsense. Blue Collar workers represent a massive amount of the middle class so for them to be "the only losers" when they constitute tens of millions of people is also nonsense. How can 10's of millions of people have their lives effected negatively, yet the rest of the country somehow is to benefit? This just shows you have no idea what you're trying to represent here.
 

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That's not a fact though :dahell:

Costs have decreased for some goods, and they steadily increased for most essential goods. Cheap crap or electronics got cheaper as a result of free trade in some cases yes, but many consumer essentials increased in price. For you to say they benefited is nonsense. Blue Collar workers represent a massive amount of the middle class so for them to be "the only losers" when they constitute tens of millions of people is also nonsense. How can 10's of millions of people have their lives effected negatively, yet the rest of the country somehow is to benefit? This just shows you have no idea what you're trying to represent here.

You keep blaming trade for job losses but like I said most of these jobs have been lost since he 70s. Occupational sectors have changed. Just like going from the, agriculture, industrial revolution, to manufacting, to tech. These shifts happen. The solution isn't to blame trade tho. Especially when economist from all specters have shown incomes of middle class have increased due to lower cost of goods. There needs to be a focus on re education and inclusion for these misplaced workers instead of protectionism.
 
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Tens of millions? :duck: And so what? This is a global economy. Shifts in occupation change all the time. We went from the industrial revolution, to steel workers, to tech. Sorry get with the times. If that makes me a heartless b*stard so be it :manny: What do you propose? Trump blackmailing and subsidizing businesses to stay?

Typical Hillary supporter. Since I don't support the establishment nonsense, I must support Trump :dead:

This nikka is so out of touch that he said "Tens of millions effected by de-industrialization? :duck:" :laff: :laff: Man you have got to be the most out of touch guy on Earth. Why are you asking me what I propose if you don't even understand the problem? That's like asking the doctor for the cure when you don't even know what's making you sick. You'll never understand it if you keep acting like a smug prick. The bottom line is first you went from "American consumers benefit from lower cost goods" to now your body gaurds oochie wally verse is better than yours :dead:

Don't understand trade and try and argue on HL brehs. Stan Hillary brehs :dead:
 

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Typical Hillary supporter. Since I don't support the establishment nonsense, I must support Trump :dead:

This nikka is so out of touch that he said "Tens of millions effected by de-industrialization? :duck:" :laff: :laff: Man you have got to be the most out of touch guy on Earth. Why are you asking me what I propose if you don't even understand the problem? That's like asking the doctor for the cure when you don't even know what's making you sick. You'll never understand it if you keep acting like a smug prick. The bottom line is first you went from "American consumers benefit from lower cost goods" to now your body gaurds oochie wally verse is better than yours :dead:

Don't understand trade and try and argue on HL brehs. Stan Hillary brehs :dead:

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You keep blaming trade for job losses but like I said most of these jobs have been lost since he 70s. Occupational sectors have changed. Just like going from the, agriculture, industrial revolution, to manufacting, to tech. These shifts happen. The solution isn't to blame trade tho. Especially when economist from all specters have shown incomes of middle class have increased due to lower cost of goods. There needs to be a focus on re education and inclusion for these misplaced workers instead of protectionism.

I almost prefer your previous post, because at least that was entertaining. This is not only boring, it's totally false. When you make a claim like "most" we're gonna need a citation. Most industrial jobs were absolutely not lost by the 1970s. Economists from all parts of the spectrum have not shown that incomes of the middle class have increased WHATSOEVER, let alone to the low costs of goods. I already explained to you that the essentials people purchase on a day to day basis are more expensive today that they were in 1986. You're trying to paint this as a natural evolution but it is a political one. You see China liberalized in the early 1980's and the free trade crowd later in the decade, like your home girl HRC who was a Wal-Mart executive (conflict of interest much?), saw a golden opportunity to cut labor costs, and then sold the American people a big pile of steaming shyt called NAFTA. They promised hundreds of thousands, no MILLIONS of jobs, and that never happened. If they had tried to sell people on your strange social/societal engineering, people would have said GTFO. The facts are that free trade has been at very best a net -neutral to American society, and that is being exceedingly generous to your side. The only thing that has increased astronomically and noticeably is corporate profits. That is a fact. Any chart shows that corporate profits since trade liberalization have been increased astronomically, while their taxes and percentage of the federal budget contribution have been cut to a fraction as they increased control over the government.

I only drop these level of jewels for you to soak up once, young Hillary stan. Don't get caught lackin again :banderas:
 

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I almost prefer your previous post, because at least that was entertaining. This is not only boring, it's totally false. When you make a claim like "most" we're gonna need a citation. Most industrial jobs were absolutely not lost by the 1970s. Economists from all parts of the spectrum have not shown that incomes of the middle class have increased WHATSOEVER, let alone to the low costs of goods. I already explained to you that the essentials people purchase on a day to day basis are more expensive today that they were in 1986. You're trying to paint this as a natural evolution but it is a political one. You see China liberalized in the early 1980's and the free trade crowd later in the decade, like your home girl HRC who was a Wal-Mart executive (conflict of interest much?), saw a golden opportunity to cut labor costs, and then sold the American people a big pile of steaming shyt called NAFTA. They promised hundreds of thousands, no MILLIONS of jobs, and that never happened. If they had tried to sell people on your strange social/societal engineering, people would have said GTFO. The facts are that free trade has been at very best a net -neutral to American society, and that is being exceedingly generous to your side. The only thing that has increased astronomically and noticeably is corporate profits. That is a fact. Any chart shows that corporate profits since trade liberalization have been increased astronomically, while their taxes and percentage of the federal budget contribution have been cut to a fraction as they increased control over the government.

I only drop these level of jewels for you to soak up once, young Hillary stan. Don't get caught lackin again :banderas:

So plants shutting down in places like Mich and Oh during the 80s were dude to globalization and trade? The most jobs that have been lose to trade deals are roughly over a mil. Most economist agree that if not for Nafta most of these jobs would have still been lost. Nafta has done some good btw. It saved the American auto industry. You still haven't explained to me what you propose to replace free trade(and I mean traditional free trade not crony bullshyt like TPP)
 

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Furious Donald Trump supporters are already regretting their vote

People who voted for Donald Trump have expressed regret over their decision.


The billionaire beat Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton in the November election to become President-elect.

But a number of U-turns on everything from promising to prosecute Ms Clinton, to a pledge to build an “impenetrable and beautiful” wall across the border with Mexico, have left some supporters furious.


A number of users took to Twitter to vent their anger.


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Trump seems lost. Afraid. Like he didn't see the full scope of what was coming. I'm starting to regret my vote. #MAGA@realDonaldTrump

11:50 PM - 4 Dec 2016



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@realDonaldTrump AL Gore?!?!?!?!?! Really?!?!?!?!?! Don't make me regret the one thing I swore I would never do! Vote for you! AL Gore?????

5:51 PM - 5 Dec 2016


@realDonaldTrump I'm disgusted by your flip on prosecuting Clinton. I shouldn't have voted for u. U r sounding like a Republican WIMP!!!!

— Fred Hendee (@HENDEEF67) November 22, 2016
@realDonaldTrump what happened to #LockHerUp ? Can I take back my vote? U lied!

— Everything4Pageants (@E4Pageants) November 22, 2016

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@transition2017 ALSO DEVOS IS A CORPORATE GLOBAL ELITIST....GOOD GOING #DopeyDonald...I REGRET MY VOTE FOR YOU..CONNED UNION FAMILY

3:24 PM - 23 Nov 2016



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Well I regret my vote. Should have voted Gary Johnson. Not lunatic.

10:52 AM - 24 Nov 2016


Mr Trump performed a number of U-turns within days of winning the election, including rowing back on his proposed ban on Muslims entering the US, and repealing Obamacare.

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After repeatedly encouraging "Lock her up!" chants during his campaign rallies, Mr Trump sparked a fierce backlash when he admitted it was "just not something that I feel very strongly about".






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/r/hillaryforprison is handling this well.

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In a spectacular U-turn on his biggest U-turn, Mr Trump has appointed a climate change denier as his environmental chief, just weeks after admitting there was "some connectivity" between humans and global warming.
 

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Laugh at them, look down on them and treat them as the subhumans they are

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This is why you're clueless... you think an article like this means anything or maybe more likely, you want it to mean something. 60 million people voted for Trump and you're posting Tweets from like 10 people who are unhappy.

:mjlol:

It's akin to you thinking the worthless polls that were done reflecting some sort of blowout for Clinton.

Face it - you don't know shyt.

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I didn't say it meant anything you dumb honkey. I just posted the article for what it is.

You thought electing a lunatic as president was a good idea so please do not tell me or anyone else about they know or don't know.
 

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This is why you're clueless... you think an article like this means anything or maybe more likely, you want it to mean something. 60 million people voted for Trump and you're posting Tweets from like 10 people who are unhappy.

:mjlol:

It's akin to you thinking the worthless polls that were done reflecting some sort of blowout for Clinton.

Face it - you don't know shyt.

:yeshrug:
What do you have to say about the fact trump conned you and played you like a 13 yr old virgin :sas1:

You hold an eternal L, kid
 

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I didn't say it meant anything you dumb honkey. I just posted the article for what it is.

You thought electing a lunatic as president was a good idea so please do not tell me or anyone else about they know or don't know.

:umad:

I'm sure you just posted an article discussing a handful of people being furious about supporting Trump "for what it is" in a thread where you're waiting for Trump supporters to apologize for some imaginary wrongdoings. Of course you're not trying to use that article as evidence that validates your premise, which is Trump supporters will regret voting for him.

:mjlol:

This response and the last one in the other thread are great examples of why I said you also have NPD. You have an inability to simply admit when you're wrong. You deflect.

You repeatedly ignore that you were comically wrong on the election.

You made a statement like "Trump stans dismissed that he had NPD." I showed you where I said he probably had it in August and rather than acknowledge it, you deflect and turn it into "Well knowing he had it and voting for him is worse than not knowing."

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What do you have to say about the fact trump conned you and played you like a 13 yr old virgin :sas1:

You hold an eternal L, kid

I'm sorry... I don't get the analogy "played you like a 13 yr old virgin".

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I didn't get played for shyt. You guys are truly idiots. To say something so dumb shows you don't have the faintest idea about my belief system.

:heh:

I know exactly who Trump and Clinton are and I made my choice accordingly.
 

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:umad:

I'm sure you just posted an article discussing a handful of people being furious about supporting Trump "for what it is" in a thread where you're waiting for Trump supporters to apologize for some imaginary wrongdoings. Of course you're not trying to use that article as evidence that validates your premise, which is Trump supporters will regret voting for him.

:mjlol:

Yeah I'm not. I just posted it as some examples of Trump regret. Nowhere did I say there that there was some mass exodus of Trump voters, or claim it's a statistically significant phenomena.

You are just trying to concoct an argument out of nothing because you are a dumb miserable bytch.

This response and the last one in the other thread are great examples of why I said you also have NPD. You have an inability to simply admit when you're wrong. You deflect.

You repeatedly ignore that you were comically wrong on the election.
You don't make any sense. I admitted I was wrong several times...as if I even had to. Even my avatar is me poking fun at myself.

I never care if I'm wrong about a prediction on the internet.

You were wrong too though. You gonna act like you really thought Trump was gonna win? :usure: fukk outta here.

The vast majority of the country was wrong. It's not that big of a deal.

What's more pathetic is you are so racist you actually voted for a crazy person just because he wasn't too scared to come out of the closet as a racist like you.

You made a statement like "Trump stans dismissed that he had NPD." I showed you where I said he probably had it in August and rather than acknowledge it, you deflect and turn it into "Well knowing he had it and voting for him is worse than not knowing."

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This makes no sense like the rest of your post. I said Trump stans and apathetic people ignored the NPD. They did brush it off or argue that it's no big problem and conflated NPD with narcissism as a general personality trait.

It was a general statement. I'm sorry if I committed the cardinal sin of missing or overlooking one post from 6 months ago where one pro-Trump poster said he has NPD (as if that would invalidate my general statement).

And saying you knew he had NPD and still voted for him is not a deflection, it's just an indication of what an idiot you are. People with NPD are generallt collosal fukk ups when it comes to detailed planning and management of important issues and lack general empathy.
 
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