Official War With Iran Thread
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King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
They overestimated the value of the hostages IMOIran and Hamas are jokes.How do you talk so much shyt stir up so much trouble then get sonned to oblivion in a few days.
They thought it would be a Gilad Shalit situation x100 and that Netanyahu would fold but it's now obvious they didn't expect him to go respond hard. The disregard Bibi has had for its own hostages with how much he bombed Gaza was clearly not expected.
I think the fact most casualties/hostages of Oct 7th were civilians played a huge part in how hard Netanyahu reacted. I'm of the opinion that if they had solely taken/killed military/reservists, things would have played way differently.
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
What do you define as democrat aligned media? Tucker isn’t republican aligned he’s Russian aligned
Are you against war or are you against stopping Iran’s nuclear program?
or do you support Iran having a nuclear program?
Or do you not care?
I’m just curious what you define as being a Warhawk.
Spidey Man
Superstar
This don't count. Putin asset is just doing what Putin wants.
I don't want war either, but let's not act like Tucker is a real journalist or is doing this for the greater good
I think the only nation to actually drop a nuke on someone shouldn't be dictating who can and can't have nukes. I think that when a country is accused of having nukes, the best thing they can do at that point is actually develop nukes before they get bombed. No one is coming for North Korea because deterrence keeps them away.
Do you support Iran having nuclear weapons or would you want them to change their government and leadership first? Do you have an opinion on the country and its leaders and goals?
Agreed. Lap dog will lap dog.
Saysumthinfunnymike
VOTE!!!
Cap. There's plenty of Iranian people of that 90 million population who are happy to be Iranian and even if they aren't, nobody is cheering for "regime change" from U.S. and Israel. Almost all Iranians hate both the U.S. and especially Israel
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
I think the current reporting is that Hamas expected much more resistance from the Israeli forces once Operation Al Aqsa Flood had started, and the situation on the ground broke out into disorder with many non-Hamas individuals/forces joining the fray leading to breakdown of order. But I don't think went into the operation with the goal of a large scale hostage exchange based on Israeli largesse, they were trying to disrupt the burgeoning regional consensus of normalization with the Israeli state. In this way, Netanyahu going so hard bolstered their case and cause.
As for the Israeli response, I think the relatively high level of civilian casualties/hostages only gave Israel the opening to do what they've always sought to do; eradicate the Palestinians. I agree that it might have played out differently if Hamas had more operational control over the Palestinian forces engaged on October 7th and the result was a limiting of the targets to the Israeli military, but only because that would have robbed Israel of the cover of bloodlust vegenace that convinced the US and Western nations to allow them to move ahead with the genocide. This is why they mainstream Western media was complicit in this genocide; they guilelessly laundered the most extreme Israeli claims (babies in ovens, mass systemic rape, etc).