Official War With Iran Thread
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clean it up 
yaaaassssss queen 
NO BOMB
FOR IRAN!
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
clean it up
yaaaassssss queen
NO BOMB
FOR IRAN!
The Miss Lindsey of the coli
This is sober analysis. Yes, Iran needed to be hit and no one wants their nuclear program…but Iran’s history of asymmetrical retaliation is God-tier and they could attack tourists abroad anywhere any time.
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
Everyone here is first and foremost denouncing Trump for these strikes. In fact, the only people who aren't are the people who have refused to criticize the Democratic establishment like Nap and @voiture, because they are servile to American empire. If you're seeing other people make posts that are inaccurate or immoral you should point them out.I find it absurd y'all debating about Kamala/Biden theoriticals about Iran while Trump just actually bombed them
I think both of you are good, reasonable posters, but I take issue with what you're doing in these posts because you're (inadvertently, I presume) advocating for the learned helplessness that plagues the opposition to American fascism. There's absolutely nothing anyone here can do to influence the Republican/MAGA decision making apparatus. I don't think anyone here is a registered Republican, I don't think anyone here voted for Trump in the last election. This is a Democrat/Left-leaning subforum, not NBC News' editorial board group chat. So it makes complete sense to also spend our time discussing and lobbying for a suitable reaction from the political party that claims to represent us and is the official opposition force to Trump.
I agree that it's necessary to accurately assess responsibility and blame for these strikes on the people who are actually committing them, which is Trump and the Republican party in control of government, but you turn it into a circle-jerk when you start saying we cannot also discuss the actions and desires of the only entity that has a chance at taking power away from them. There's diminishing utility to having the whole thread be "bad man do bad thing". We don't have to have goldfish memory here. There was a long chain of actions that led us to this point, and many of those actions were done by Democrats as well. If we're to escape from this path of bad bipartisan foreign policy, we can't ban criticism of the Democratic Party. Discussing the history and hypotheticals of where Biden/Kamala/Democratic policy has failed is actually necessary to making sure we reverse course.
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Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
Serious question, do you think you have political blindspots/ biases when it comes to your analysis of current events? If so what do you think those biases are?
Man literally posting right wing accounts, racist, neoliba, neocons because he wants a war. Nasty workThe Miss Lindsey of the coli
choc_cardigan
Squad
Long word salads are classic signs of trolling
King Kreole
natural blondie like goku
Sure, I have a bias towards anti-imperialism, anti-colonialism, and human rights. That can lead to me not giving warmongers the benefit of the doubt.
Outlaw
New Hope For the HaveNotz
This isn’t an interview question, you don’t have to turn a negative into a positive, what do you think your legit blindspots are?
There’s a reason that posters you consider “good” get triggered by your takes when it comes to the populist right on the occasional basis
Hood Critic
The Power Circle
This is a strawman argument. The classic "Iran funds terrorists", everyone from the Martians to us knows this. Yet, everyone's intelligence, our own included, with the exception of Israel's has stated that Iran does not have a nuclear weapon and isn't "days away".
So in reality, the only thing that changed is Israel's fear of retaliation on their heavy handed response to October 7th.
What were they enriching at 60%?
Everything you said in your response, misses the point that I believe @Liu Kang and I were attempting to make.
If you want to criticise Hakeem or Chuck for their response to this crisis, that's fine.
There are folks here however, who immediately pivoted to Biden and Kamala, which in my opinion is utter nonsense.
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Hood Critic
The Power Circle
Ask them, 90% enrichment or above is necessary for nuclear weapons.
Why do you want me to defend Iran’s nuclear weapons program?