Official War With Iran Thread

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Trump is a hundred things to a hundred people. Outlaw is on the money with his observation. You should know better than anyone as Trump had you completely convinced that he was an economic populist, anti-war, and ran the most pro-Black campaign in history and etc but maybe you still believe those things.
Completely irrelevant response to my post but par for the course from an illiterate such as yourself.
 

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Trump is a hundred things to a hundred people. Outlaw is on the money with his observation. You should know better than anyone as Trump had you completely convinced that he was an economic populist, anti-war, and ran the most pro-Black campaign in history and etc but maybe you still believe those things.
Agreed. We live in an environment now where you have 50 different sources say variations of reality on social media. Then depending on which source you want to believe, you make your own conclusions to fit your reality. These are dangerous times and there isn’t an easy solution for how to get out of this. Trump has played well on this and continues to get the benefit of the doubt from his cultists and even those allegedly opposed to him.
 

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That’s exactly Trump’s strategy, release conflicting reports then allow people’s cognitive bias take over

He has simultaneously become a hero for pro-Israel neocon hawks and for anti-interventionist, "anti-war" types ...

People believe whatever they want to. It is insane.
 
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Why did you believe Trump or Bannon or whomever convinced you white boy? Did you really get kicked in the head and raped by a horse?
@FAH1223 aye we really gonna do this again in here? Because I'll castrate homeboy in public again but I don't want to be accused of derailing, it's up to you :hubie:
 

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He has simultaneously become a hero for Pro-Israel neocon hawks and for anti-interventionist, "anti-war" types ...

People believe whatever they want to. It is insane.
It’s like we are reading some bootleg version of animorphs where he is a hawk and a dove but the choose your own adventure one


Things will only get worse as this conflict escalates, people try to be first to report “the facts” and then people get off their hot takes on those facts to fit their preferred narrative
 

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He has simultaneously become a hero for pro-Israel neocon hawks and for anti-interventionist, "anti-war" types ...

People believe whatever they want to. It is insane.
lol you guys actually think trump run anything


it's two camps that run US polices

team cac

and team kosher cac


team cac doesn't want to waste military on israel bull shyt because we are a dying empire they know it all they want is to sale weapons with out things going nuclear can't rule the world when it radiated dust planet



team kosher cac thinks usa should serve Israel because of some cult think tank thinks USA and UK is Esau
 

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This is a perfect example of Trump putting out conflicting narratives and the media being complicit,

How is Trump vetoing what Israel is doing while simultaneously Israel is carrying out attacks on Tehran without asking for permission?

Is Trump calling the shots or not?
 

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@FAH1223 aye we really gonna do this again in here? Because I'll castrate homeboy in public again but I don't want to be accused of derailing, it's up to you :hubie:

Idk you could just answer the question instead of going to one of your default deflections of calling black people illiterate like you always do white boy


How did Trump convince you to that he holds all the positive attributes that you've attributed to him over the years

I'm not derailing anything but you're clearly a nasty little cac who can't defend himself or the positions he holds
 

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lol you guys actually think trump run anything


it's two camps that run US polices

team cac

and team kosher cac


team cac doesn't want to waste military on israel bull shyt because we are a dying empire they know it all they want is to sale weapons with out things going nuclear can't rule the world when it radiated dust planet



team kosher cac thinks usa should serve Israel because of some cult think tank thinks USA and UK is Esau
Your logic doesn’t follow, most of the Republicans in government would be ok with going to war with Iran, the only reason Trump is speaking out of the both sides of his mouth is to placate his base.

If a false flag happens where somehow Iran attacks Americans then his base will fall in line. Trump is just stalling for the opportunity to thread the needle without collapsing his base support.

You also can’t forget most of his base will follow him into the depths of hell so it won’t take much for them to be manipulated into consent
 

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Iran will gets some hits in without question.
Israel will keep degrading Iran's military installations. Let's see how long they can keep going because Israel essentially has endless supply of firepower and air superiority.



Iran is throwing haymaker. The problem is every missile fired gives of the location. Unsustainable.

 

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This is a perfect example of Trump putting out conflicting narratives and the media being complicit,

How is Trump vetoing what Israel is doing while simultaneously Israel is carrying out attacks on Tehran without asking for permission?

Is Trump calling the shots or not?
Again, when you say this is an example of Trump putting out conflicting narratives I think you're giving him too much credit. He's not some grand master strategist who is playing the world like a fiddle, he's running a dumpster fire administration that is caught in the middle of a changing foreign policy consensus. I don't know the accuracy of this report, but it doesn't strike me as impossible. Trump, like Biden, is not "calling the shots" in Israel so much as they have incredible amounts of leverage to influence Israeli actions. If the US President gives them an actual red line backed up with real threats (unlike the fake red lines that Biden gave them), they will most likely comply, which is probably what Trump did when they threatened to take the top off this conflict by assassinating the Ayatollah, throwing the global economy into chaos and hurting Trump's agenda. But Israel has shown unprecedented levels of insubordination to their American patron post-October 7th, so they're not waiting for explicit approval to take escalatory actions like the attacks in Tehran. International power politics are not so neatly delineated.
 
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