Official War With Iran Thread

[Piff Perkins]

Trump was always going to side with those who pay the most. It explains most of his decision makers. Farmers can't pay up? Oh well more ICE raids. Apple won't pay up? Oh well not stopping that court case. etc. That plus the fawning media praise he expects to get for this...

I'm a liberal and despise much of the left but let's be clear: if Kamala was president RIGHT NOW we'd either already be bombing or planning it for the coming days/weeks/months. Most of the foreign policy people that would have been in her administration are currently cheer leading for this OR making insane arguments ("Israel has a right to defend itself") that would eventually lead to it. I'm not making a broad "all dems would do this" argument, I'm talking about her specifically. You need to be exceptionally dumb to fall for this, and Trump and Kamala fit that bill. Do I think Obama would have attacked Iran? Of course not, we already saw how that played out. Do I think (Bill) Clinton would? No. This is about stupid men, and stupid women who are obsessed with being perceived as being as strong as a man. Hillary would fall for it, no question.

 

[mastermind]

You're right. I'm sure Iran just gave Putin all those drones and weapons out of the goodness of their hearts.

Just like the US gives weapons to Israel out of the goodness of our hearts? Or Israel sends the US new surveillance tools they used on Palestinians out of the goodness of their hearts?

You need to leave cable news alone for a bit. It’s breaking your brain.

 

[mastermind]

Do I think Obama would have attacked Iran? Of course not, we already saw how that played out. Do I think (Bill) Clinton would? No. This is about stupid men, and stupid women who are obsessed with being perceived as being as strong as a man. Hillary would fall for it, no question.

All of these people would do the same thing, same with Reagan and the Bushes. Only Biden would ideologically believe in attacking. One of the only things Trump is right about is the Deep State, particularly in the defense sector. This county been wanting to attack Iran since '79, and Iran is arguably its weakest so this is the moment. That sector is on autopilot.

Trump is the only one who would have publicly lost control like he has. He has no control over the narrative even tho he is trying.

 

[Spidey Man]

Just like the US gives weapons to Israel out of the goodness of our hearts? Or Israel sends the US new surveillance tools they used on Palestinians out of the goodness of their hearts?

You need to leave cable news alone for a bit. It’s breaking your brain.

Nobody said the US supplies Israel out of the goodness of their heart. Israel provides tech, intelligence, money and other services that the general public isn't aware of. The US also doesn't supply Ukraine cause it's the right thing to do. They are provided American weapons built by American companies being paid in USD.

So is it hard to believe that a country who has been looking to build nuclear weapons for over a decade wouldn't exchange valuable weapons and tech for something they want that Russia has in abundance.

 

[mastermind]

Nobody said the US supplies Israel out of the goodness of their heart. Israel provides tech, intelligence, money and other services that the general public isn't aware of. The US also doesn't supply Ukraine cause it's the right thing to do. They are provided American weapons built by American companies being paid in USD.

So is it hard to believe that a country who has been looking to build nuclear weapons for over a decade wouldn't exchange valuable weapons and tech for something they want that Russia has in abundance.

Nuclear weapons are a bit different

Once you have a nuke and can create more, no one can tell you what to do. Why would Putin cede influence over a nation by giving that up? It only makes sense if you think Putin is some master super villain like Dr. Doom. (he’s not)

 

[mitter]

Trump is the only one who would have publicly lost control like he has. He has no control over the narrative even tho he is trying.

He has control over the narrative with his cult.

 

[88m3]

Iran says they won't end their nuclear program. That's their priority.

 

[Lord Beasley]

Hope that movement is just some messaging

 

[Pressure]

Trump was always going to side with those who pay the most. It explains most of his decision makers. Farmers can't pay up? Oh well more ICE raids. Apple won't pay up? Oh well not stopping that court case. etc. That plus the fawning media praise he expects to get for this...

I'm a liberal and despise much of the left but let's be clear: if Kamala was president RIGHT NOW we'd either already be bombing or planning it for the coming days/weeks/months. Most of the foreign policy people that would have been in her administration are currently cheer leading for this OR making insane arguments ("Israel has a right to defend itself") that would eventually lead to it. I'm not making a broad "all dems would do this" argument, I'm talking about her specifically. You need to be exceptionally dumb to fall for this, and Trump and Kamala fit that bill. Do I think Obama would have attacked Iran? Of course not, we already saw how that played out. Do I think (Bill) Clinton would? No. This is about stupid men, and stupid women who are obsessed with being perceived as being as strong as a man. Hillary would fall for it, no question.

Then why didn't this happen under the Biden harris administration that took over while tensions were high via a Trump led US assassination and pressure from Israel and Iran hawks following the withdrawal of the jcpoa and the failure of the Trump admin to forge a new deal?

Feels like wish casting.

 

[FAH1223]

“ During the call, Vice President JD Vance pushed back, saying the United States shouldn't be directly involved and suggesting that the Israelis were going to drag the country into war, said the sources.”

 

[Loose]

I think that Israel and the US (and maybe some other Western countries) want regime change in Iran. However, I am not sure how this will come about. I don't think the US has the same appetite for a ground invasion as it did in the case of Iraq in 2003. I fear that Trump could decide to use a nuke. Seriously.

Regime change = killing supreme leader which would be a disastrous decision. In fact if you do that im almost positive iran turns into a terrorist state.

 

[HabitualChiller]

“ During the call, Vice President JD Vance pushed back, saying the United States shouldn't be directly involved and suggesting that the Israelis were going to drag the country into war, said the sources.”

Can't believe I agree with JD Vance here.

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Israel says it killed Iran's military co-ordinator with Hamas — BBC News

Saeed Izadi had been in charge of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps's ties with Palestinian armed groups.

apple.news

Not good

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

RAF base ‘targeted in Iran spy plot’

Security review launched after pro-Palestinian activists break into RAF Brize Norton

Keir Starmer describes the "vandalism" as "disgraceful" after Palestine Action activists spray paint on military planes.

www.bbc.com

 

[The ADD]

Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yasharali.bsky.social)

BREAKING President Trump says the United States has just completed an attack on three nuclear sites in Iranian territory.

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