Official War With Iran Thread

[Hood Critic]

The reality is that Biden pushed for an even stronger deal, reportedly at the urging of Israel and Chuck Schumer. He could have simply re‑entered the JCPOA if he agreed with its original terms. He never really intended on resolving diplomatically, it was always bad faith discussions to satisfy Israel

Reportedly by who?

 

[wire28]

Taco Tuesday at the employee cafeteria at lunch.

Hopefully nothing crazy happens tonight. I'm tired of living through all these bad historical events. It's tough being an 80s baby. Two terrorists attacks on the World Trade, 2 forever wars, a once in a lifetime recession, a once in a lifetime pandemic, a coup attempt, another Middle East war, probably another once in a lifetime recession and multiple worst mass shootings ever.

You left out being a Mets fan

 

[Spidey Man]

You left out being a Mets fan

At least they won when I was still in diapers. Hopefully they win sometime before I'm back in diapers.

 

[Loose]

Reportedly by who?

They reached 60% uranium and Biden wanted a stronger deal

Biden’s pursuit of a new Iran nuclear agreement post-JCPOA

Analysis of the JCPOA’s end and Biden’s diplomatic efforts for a new Iran nuclear deal in 2025.

nycfpa.org

Biden’s Failure to Rejoin the Iran Nuclear Deal Was an Unforced Error

The question remains: Could some version of it be salvaged in 2025?

www.thenation.com

https://media.defense.gov/2023/Sep/21/2003305663/-1/-1/1/JIPA%20-%20MOUSAVIAN.PDF

 

[choc_cardigan]

It's not a hard concept to say Assad should be held on trial for his war crimes that he committed to try to fight off the cia and mossads war, now let's see you say joe Biden should be held responsible for his? If we're both in agreement that both should be sent to the Hague cool let's move on if not explain why not?

It actually would be a hard concept for the record,


Bashar al-Assad Regime – Major Atrocities (Verified Summary)
1. Systematic Torture & Mass Death in Detention
UN investigators found crimes against humanity, including torture, rape, murder, and enforced disappearance.
The “Caesar files” (smuggled photos) show thousands of detainees who died under torture or neglect.
Sources:
UN Commission of Inquiry (2013):
https://www.ohchr.org/Documents/HRBodies/HRCouncil/CoISyria/A.HRC.22.59_en.pdf⁠�

Human Rights Watch (Caesar evidence):
https://www.hrw.org/report/2015/12/16/if-dead-could-speak/mass-deaths-and-torture-syrias-detention-facilities⁠�

2. Chemical Weapons Attacks
The OPCW found “reasonable grounds” that Syrian government forces used:
Sarin gas (Ltamenah, 2017)
Chlorine gas (Douma 2018, Saraqib 2018)
Attacks were linked to Syrian Air Force units.
Sources:
OPCW Investigation Report (2020):
https://www.opcw.org/sites/default/files/documents/2020/04/s-1867-2020%28e%29.pdf⁠�

3. Indiscriminate Bombing of Civilians
UN found indiscriminate and deliberate attacks on:
Homes
Markets
Hospitals
Airstrikes in Aleppo and Eastern Ghouta killed large numbers of civilians.
Sources:
UN Inquiry on Eastern Ghouta (2018):
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2018/06/un-commission-inquiry-syria-siege-and-recapture-eastern-ghouta-marked-war⁠�

4. Siege & Starvation of Civilians
Government forces imposed long sieges cutting off:
Food
Medicine
Humanitarian aid
UN concluded this amounted to war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Sources:
UN Eastern Ghouta findings (2018):
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2018/06/un-commission-inquiry-syria-siege-and-recapture-eastern-ghouta-marked-war⁠�

5. Targeting of Hospitals & Medical Workers
Hundreds of medical facilities attacked during the war.
Many attacks attributed to Syrian government and allied forces.
UN and NGOs say this was often intentional, not accidental.
Sources:
Physicians for Human Rights (2024 report):
https://phr.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/PHR-Syria-Expert-Report-HRC-May-2024-EN.pdf⁠�

Bottom Line
Multiple independent investigations (UN, OPCW, major human-rights groups) consistently conclude that Syrian government forces carried out widespread war crimes and crimes against humanity during the Syrian civil war, including torture, chemical attacks, and targeting civilians.


Here's a nice clean summary with links providing evidence that you have completely lost your mind or you are the worst paid shyt posters on this site, which would be saying something.

 

[Loose]

It actually would be a hard concept for the record,

Didn't read none of that bs, i asked you a question I'll bold it for you

It's not a hard concept to say Assad should be held on trial for his war crimes that he committed to try to fight off the cia and mossads war, now let's see you say joe Biden should be held responsible for his? If we're both in agreement that both should be sent to the Hague cool let's move on if not explain why not?

 

[Liu Kang]

The reality is that Biden pushed for an even stronger deal, reportedly at the urging of Israel and Chuck Schumer. He could have simply re‑entered the JCPOA if he agreed with its original terms. He never really intended on resolving diplomatically, it was always bad faith discussions to satisfy Israel

Trump unilaterally exited a deal that took years to make. There is no way, Iran would have come back to that JCPOA base line above all after the Solemaini assassination in 2020. And even if Biden somehow managed to sign a JCPOA 2 deal, what would have prevented Trump to exit that one as well ?

Anything that is happening right now in Iran is the sole responsability of Trump and him alone. Stop bringing Biden into this, it's tiring.

 

[wire28]

Trump unilaterally exited a deal that took years to make. There is no way, Iran would have come back to that JCPOA base line above all after the Solemaini assassination in 2020. And even if Biden somehow managed to sign a JCPOA 2 deal, what would have prevented Trump to exit that one as well ?

Anything that is happening right now in Iran is the sole responsability of Trump and him alone. Stop bringing Biden into this, it's tiring.

JOE BIDEN

@Pressure

 

[Loose]

Trump unilaterally exited a deal that took years to make. There is no way, Iran would have come back to that JCPOA base line above all after the Solemaini assassination in 2020. And even if Biden somehow managed to sign a JCPOA 2 deal, what would have prevented Trump to exit that one as well ?

Anything that is happening right now in Iran is the sole responsability of Trump and him alone. Stop bringing Biden into this, it's tiring.

He wouldn't have the uranium justification not like he needed one anyway because he's warhawk, it's what some use as a logic to justify this war( even democrats in this thread)

 

[choc_cardigan]

Didn't read none of that bs, i asked you a question I'll bold it for you

You are a miserable shyt poster log off and do a self evaluation of your life and where it went wrong

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

They reached 60% uranium and Biden wanted a stronger deal

Biden’s pursuit of a new Iran nuclear agreement post-JCPOA

Analysis of the JCPOA’s end and Biden’s diplomatic efforts for a new Iran nuclear deal in 2025.

nycfpa.org

Biden’s Failure to Rejoin the Iran Nuclear Deal Was an Unforced Error

The question remains: Could some version of it be salvaged in 2025?

www.thenation.com

https://media.defense.gov/2023/Sep/21/2003305663/-1/-1/1/JIPA%20-%20MOUSAVIAN.PDF

Neither article you posted supports the claim you made in bold. They also undermine your bad-faith claim by acknowledging Biden tried to revive the deal and engaged in prolonged negotiations.

The reality is that Biden pushed for an even stronger deal, reportedly at the urging of Israel and Chuck Schumer. He could have simply re‑entered the JCPOA if he agreed with its original terms. He never really intended on resolving diplomatically, it was always bad faith discussions to satisfy Israel

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

Not that I disagree with the point you’re making….


But this came across my feed yesterday,

I mean that bot/spam account is completely mischaracterizing what she said so…

 

[Loose]

 

[Loose]

You are a miserable shyt poster log off and do a self evaluation of your life and where it went wrong

Cause you a dikk eater who actually don't stand for anything. You came in here to lecture but can't stand on your own two feet

 

[choc_cardigan]

Cause you a dikk eater who actually don't stand for anything. You came in here to lecture but can't stand on your own two feet

Not only am I standing on my own 2 feet, I have provided evidence with links anyone can use. I have not use childish insults or thrown any temper tantrums, nothing you can say would affect my personal life. Unlike you it seems. This is your life and any challenge to your shaky distorted and overall wrong view of the life, it seems to throw you off the deep end. Fresh air would do wonders.