Official War With Iran Thread

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Im willing to look past the genocide ( voted for Kamala) but its hard to be excited for a party filled with fascist collaborators. The party showed more vigor against mamdani than they ever had for ANYTHING trump has done over the last 2 years. I took trump being an existential threat seriously, my party however hasn't they've helped vote in all his cabinet members and helped launch this war in Iran.

Schumer/leadership was telling people not to go to cecot to check on immigrants
Not to show fight against ice
Told not to bring up war powers resolution which allowed trump to launch this war without votes on record
Not to endorse mandami, Gillibrand called him jihadist:dead:

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Credit where it's due, they just outfought the Republicans on redistricting/gerrymandering, which shocked the hell out of me. I figured they would lie down and take it from Republicans once again. Hope this emboldens them further, as you can't fight fire with a bottle of warm piss anymore.
 

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Two Iranian women remain in immigration detention, arrested earlier this month on accusations of being the niece and grandniece of Qasem Soleimani, despite no connection to the late Iranian military commander. Drop Site reviewed Iranian birth records, identification papers, a family will, and other personal documents and found no connection whatsoever to him or his extended family. One of the women is now seriously ill in a Texas facility, her chronic blood condition left effectively untreated.

On March 8, right-wing activist Laura Loomer posted on X calling for the deportation of a woman she claimed was Soleimani’s niece. The commander of the Quds Force of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Maj. Gen. Soleimani was assassinated by a U.S. drone strike, ordered by U.S. President Donald Trump, in Baghdad on January 3, 2020. The day after Loomer’s original post, she tagged Secretary of State Marco Rubio on X, claiming to have reported the woman to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for “posting content sympathetic to the Iranian regime and Ayatollah.”

On April 3, Hamideh Soleimani Afshar and her daughter, Sarina Hosseiny, were taken into custody by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) at their home outside Los Angeles. Rubio issued a statement headlined, “Secretary Rubio Revokes Green Cards of Foreign Nationals with Ties to Iranian Terror Regime,” identifying them as “the niece and grand niece of deceased Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Major General Qasem Soleimani” and describing them as “green card holders living lavishly in the United States.”

The claims made headline news in the U.S., while triggering immediate denials from Soleimani’s family that the two women were relatives of the military commander. The Trump administration has gone largely quiet about the women’s cases since their arrest, as they remain in ICE detention pending deportation to Iran.

As attention has faded, the situation for the women has turned dire at the South Texas ICE Processing Center in San Antonio, particularly for Hamideh, 47, who lives with autoimmune hemolytic anemia, which requires regular treatment and blood transfusions she isn’t getting.

As a student in the late 1990s and early 2000s, Hamideh was active in protest movements in Iran, and, she says, even spent a week in prison after getting arrested at one demonstration. Sarina, in a phone interview from the ICE facility where they are being held, said that her mother—not one to hold back her opinions—was most looking forward to having “freedom of speech” when she moved here to the United States. She remains opposed to the son of the former Shah, Reza Pahlavi, as well as Trump’s current war. “She’s kind of a passionate person overall, and she thought that she was going to come here and be able to talk freely when she’s been threatened and imprisoned in Iran for speaking about politics, and now she’s again in prison for speaking out about politics,” she told Drop Site.

They were forced to leave Iran under duress after Sarina took part in a dance performance on vacation in Turkey at the age of 12. The dance competition was filmed and later aired by the satellite channel “TV Persia” and her dance went viral. (Two of her performances are still viewable on YouTube.) The channel is illegal in Iran but many residents have access to it. She said she was expelled from her public school, only to enroll in a private school and later to be expelled from that one, too, when the scandal recirculated. Some of her more conservative family members, who had connections to the government, beat and threatened her mother, Hosseiny said, and the situation became increasingly unbearable. At 14, she came to the United States on a student visa and the two of them applied for asylum.

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To be clear, even if the women were in fact distantly related to Soleimani, such a link would not, under any version of justice, make them guilty of anything. While the U.S. says spouses and children of alleged terrorists can be detained, the law deems arresting other relatives inadmissible. The U.S. recently took immigration action against leading Emory University cancer researcher Dr. Fatemeh Ardeshir-Larijani, simply for being the daughter of Ali Larijani, a top Iranian official and Kantian scholar assassinated by the U.S. and Israel in March, along with his son. She was out of the country at the time her legal permanent resident status was stripped and barred from re-entering. Emory fired her.
 

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Bolton should be thrilled that inept Donald Trump makes him look reasonable.

I don't think what is going on makes any of the Iran hawks look good at all. Trump just enacted the stupidest possible version of what was already a stupid plan.

War with Iran was always going to be a bad idea. People have been saying for years that this would be an even worse quagmire than Iraq, that Iran would take some action on the Strait, and that the US would not achieve its strategic objectives.

Again, it's no coincidence that the primary supporters of this war are Israeli shills and neocons.

The same exact group of dumbasses who headed the charge in to Iraq.
 

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To me it sounds like neither side really wants to go back to war but Trump doesn’t want to give Iran the concession they won because they won the war…..

It’s fukking stupid, but it’s also Trump.

For like the 30th time he’s declared the war is over and it’s not over.
 

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To me it sounds like neither side really wants to go back to war but Trump doesn’t want to give Iran the concession they won because they won the war…..

It’s fukking stupid, but it’s also Trump.

For like the 30th time he’s declared the war is over and it’s not over.

???
 
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