oh no. another "hip hop ain't shyt thread" by me. hip hop is 1 big comedy skit

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One says there's no good rap music left and the other says you just have to dig. The bigger question is why does each perspective play into the scarcity of good music from "us" period? Like the other poster says, both vantage points play more into some type of illusion that our type of music that is quality is a rare thing.

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That's really the issue. No matter what side you're on either thinking it's completely gone or just more difficult to find, that quality artists in a lane we made is like some type of unicorn. While other genres that we built have no problem finding "great talent" all the time. Once everybody gives up their participation because they're frustrated at either a lack of options or the notion that there are none at all, they will not only monetize like crazy, but also dictate the entire narrative of a story they don't even know how to tell!
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I wouldn't be surprised if someone in a boardroom came up with that Hip Hop is Dead line just so we can keep repeating it while they fuel it with the bum ass nikkas they keep putting on.

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i see it like this; there's a great portion of hip hop that's on some monkey see, monkey do type shyt and then there's this small portion that's doin' "hip hop" but it's like an only decent version of it and only because the majority of hip hop is so bad. so what's now "decent" or "good" has now become "great" because standards are so low and there's far more wack or weak shyt than it is actually great shyt, so it's like "we'll take what we can of whatevers 'good' or decent at best" because it's still better than the clown and stupid shyt that's pollutin' the air
 

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Yeah it's dead mos def. I just vibe out to the shyt and keep it moving. It's no point in being invested in it, listening to lyrics n shyt anymore because shyt be so vain and surface level nowdays that it would be a waste of time trying to actually listen to what these nikkas be talm bout, no good wordplay, metaphors, or nothing nowdays.

That's why when it comes to current shyt I just listen to people like Thug, Future, Lil Uzi, etc. They make cold flows and melodies and that's pretty nuch all I look for in rap nowdays, I could careless about what they sayin in their lyrics. If I want thought provoking lyrics and actual messages I just listen to old shyt. I just feel sorry for the shorties comin up that will only know of rap in its current state. Yall thought 90s babies was lost and confused, wait until these 2000 babies start gettin older:wow:
 

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i see it like this; there's a great portion of hip hop that's on some monkey see, monkey do type shyt and then there's this small portion that's doin' "hip hop" but it's like an only decent version of it and only because the majority of hip hop is so bad. so what's now "decent" or "good" has now become "great" because standards are so low and there's far more wack or weak shyt than it is actually great shyt, so it's like "we'll take what we can of whatevers 'good' or decent at best" because it's still better than the clown and stupid shyt that's pollutin' the air

Yea but don't you think that's all by design? Like the other nikka said, they're the ones that sign these artist and have probably manufactured the decline on purpose just to gain control. Not just for the cash but to control the image of an entire culture just on some white Jesus shyt.
It's in the Bible that Jesus had hair like wool and dark skin but nikkas will go to church and pray to the total opposite because the image is stronger than the words. Just like now the image of these cats now is more important than the lyrics so you don't even need to say much at all. Even though we know good lyrics are one of the telltale signs of authenticity. It's easily overriden because they just keep making one after the other (manufacturing ) so people are convinced this is what it is even though many of us know better.
Yea the people that are being praised like Kendrick Cole and Drake can be seen as top tier now because the talent pool has been weakened. I'm not denying that, I'm saying that instead of looking to the decline of quality as something that just magically happened over time, that certain individuals behind the curtain needed to strategically lower the bar in order to make lesser skilled "artists" acceptable and palatable so that eventually we'd no longer recognize it and give up on it. Then once we don't want shyt to do with it, they still have all the archives of what it's supposed to sound like and then start whitewashing it.
 
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Yea but don't you think that's all by design? Like the other nikka said, they're the ones that sign these artist and have probably manufactured the decline on purpose just to gain control. Not just for the cash but to control the image of an entire culture just on some white Jesus shyt.
It's in the Bible that Jesus had hair like wool and dark skin but nikkas will go to church and pray to the total opposite because the image is stronger than the words. Just like now the image of these cats now is more important than the lyrics so you don't even need to say much at all. Even though we know good lyrics are one of the telltale signs of authenticity. It's easily overriden because they just keep making one after the other (manufacturing ) so people are convinced this is what it is even though many of us know better.
Yea the people that are being praised like Kendrick Cole and Drake can be seen as top tier now because the talent pool has been weakened. I'm not denying that, I'm saying that instead of looking to the decline of quality as something that just magically happened over time, that certain individuals behind the curtain needed to strategically lower the bar in order to make lesser skilled "artists" acceptable and palatable so that eventually we'd no longer recognize it and give up on it. Then once we don't want shyt to do with it, they still have all the archives of what it's supposed to sound like and then start whitewashing it.

i just know what i hear and see and it ain't good :scust:
 
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Then just say that and stop making this thread every other month. If you wanna discuss it then discuss it but we don't need to keep hearing you say you're done with the shyt 5 times every year.

it's like open mic discussion here

we like, appreciate, bytch, complain and all of the above here

it's the way of the world, my nikka :yeshrug:

i guess it's a love-hate thing... seein' somethin' like hip hop that was once so pure and beautiful go from sugar to shyt and for it ti get so diluted is hard

it's like i care but i don't care :ld:
 

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you not feelin lil uzi vert & playboy carti breh? :russ: even the supposed top tier rappers like Drake & J Cole are so mediocre (and they're getting old now). We're in an even worse place than we were in the Snap era, at least there was a poppin mixtape scene & some classic albums dropping back then, I can see the late 2010's being worse than the late 2000's
 

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all these oldheads JEALOUS of us young kids, man,

we FUKK the BADDEST young gals, SMOKE the best fire, and LISTEN to the best rap :wooooooooooooooooooooooooooo:

like yachty said, they wanna be us

 
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