Ok 😒 this “everyone in history that was important was secretly black” stuff got to stop we looking crazy “Columbas was a black moor” 😒

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I have a scientific question about that. Africa always had the largest genetic diversity of our species since that is where we all came from and the populations that left were bottlenecks. Does America now have the largest genetic diversity after importing African slaves combined with European whites and native american indians?
Indeed a great question.

The people taken into slavery had a specific background, and groups intermingled so some of the original DNA got lost over time over the many generations (a bottleneck occurrence). Also, Palaeolithic and Mesolithic groups lived in small pockets and this is how the world was populated, by small OoA migrations (a genetic drift).


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My only problem really is the Native American thing. Of course there were black native Americans and I recognize black people have been here before slavery. But the “real native Americans” shyt gotta stop. Like there are non black native Americans whom roots are from Asia. People ain’t gotta act like we the only ones of something just because we were part of it. Aloe of us have Native American ancestors. So it shouldn’t be that complicated to not offend other native Americans
There are black folk who don't know the difference between American Indian and Native American the problem is both groups of people intermingled so much back in the day that in modern context the terms are damn near interchangeable originally these were two distinct groups of people.

A lot of black folk come from a bloodline of American Indians.
 

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My only problem really is the Native American thing. Of course there were black native Americans and I recognize black people have been here before slavery. But the “real native Americans” shyt gotta stop. Like there are non black native Americans whom roots are from Asia. People ain’t gotta act like we the only ones of something just because we were part of it. Aloe of us have Native American ancestors. So it shouldn’t be that complicated to not offend other native Americans. Yea many black native Americans, but we not the only ones who bear that title

Stop right there...

No there are not any black native americans! If they are so...what is their origin supported by archeology and paleontology?

Question also gos for there being black people (as used today) here before slavery. Where's the evidence?

As someone who was on this 20 years ago I can already answer, there are no credible sources. But maybe you can provide something new.
 

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There are black folk who don't know the difference between American Indian and Native American the problem is both groups of people intermingled so much back in the day that in modern context the terms are damn near interchangeable originally these were two distinct groups of people.

A lot of black folk come from a bloodline of American Indians.

This is false, the study was posted earlier in this thread. No...many black people DO NOT have Indian genetics. The story was just passed down orally, but genetically only about 5% of black Americans have actual native american genetics.

And what is the difference between native american and American indian???
 

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My only problem really is the Native American thing. Of course there were black native Americans and I recognize black people have been here before slavery. But the “real native Americans” shyt gotta stop. Like there are non black native Americans whom roots are from Asia. People ain’t gotta act like we the only ones of something just because we were part of it. Aloe of us have Native American ancestors. So it shouldn’t be that complicated to not offend other native Americans. Yea many black native Americans, but we not the only ones who bear that title
You need to read this post #345 and try to understand it. Let it marinate with the information below.

Early British settlements in what would become the United States began in the early 17th century, leading to the establishment of 13 colonies by the 1700s. 🗺️


Early Settlement Attempts and Jamestown​


1585: Sir Walter Raleigh establishes the Roanoke Colony on Roanoke Island, off the coast of present-day North Carolina. The colony mysteriously disappears, earning it the nickname "The Lost Colony." 🤫
1607: The Virginia Company of London founds Jamestown, Virginia. This is the first permanent English settlement in North America. The colony struggles with disease, famine, and conflict with Native Americans.
1619: The first enslaved Africans arrive in Jamestown, and the first representative assembly in the colonies, the House of Burgesses, is established in Virginia. This year marks a turning point for both the economy and governance of the colonies.


The Growth of the Colonies​


1620: The Pilgrims aboard the Mayflower found the Plymouth Colony in present-day Massachusetts. They create the Mayflower Compact, an agreement for self-government. 📜
1629: The Massachusetts Bay Colony is founded by Puritans, who seek religious freedom. This colony quickly grows and becomes a center of Puritan culture and politics.
1632: Maryland is founded as a haven for English Catholics.
1636: Rhode Island and Connecticut are founded by colonists seeking religious and political freedom from the strict Puritan rule of Massachusetts.
1664: The English seize the Dutch colony of New Netherland and rename it New York. This is a significant moment as it unites the northern and southern English colonies geographically.
1681: Pennsylvania is founded by William Penn as a haven for Quakers and a place of religious tolerance. Its capital, Philadelphia, becomes a major port city.


Formation of the 13 Colonies​


By the early 1700s, the remaining colonies were established, completing the group of 13.
  • Delaware (1638)
  • North Carolina (1663)
  • South Carolina (1663)
  • New Jersey (1664)
  • New Hampshire (1679)
  • Georgia (1732)
These 13 colonies would later unite to declare independence from Great Britain in 1776, marking the birth of the United States of America. 🇺🇸
 

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This is false, the study was posted earlier in this thread. No...many black people DO NOT have Indian genetics. The story was just passed down orally, but genetically only about 5% of black Americans have actual native american genetics.

And what is the difference between native american and American indian???
dude made that shyt up and he talking like he can certify it. don't know the difference between a native and Indian? Neither did Columbus

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the difference doesn't exist for anyone not following... these lunatics have gone off the rails. he was dapped by a user named ducktales for saying "a lot of Black Americans come from American Indian bloodline". not even mixed with but come from.

like genetics don't say otherwise.

peak anti intellectualism. peak coping. shyt is only going to get worse
 

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Black Americans are primarily West-Central African Genetically, that is what the actual data says.

"Native Americans" and "Pacific Blacks" are genetically DISTANT from Both Black Americans/Diasporians and Africans.

There is no "Confusing" Native American (or Melanesian) DNA with, African/Black American DNA.

If we came about from "Non Africans", it would show up in the genetics, it DOES NOT.

Once again:
There is no "Confusing" Native American (or Melanesian) DNA with, African/Black American DNA.

We genetically cluster with Africans, because our population is on average 80% genetically African.

If we came from "Native Americans"(Or Melanesians) we would NOT Cluster with Africans at all, but we do.

The average modern "White Person" is "genetically closer/More related" to Black Africans and Black Americans, than "Native Americans" or Melanesian.
 

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There are black folk who don't know the difference between American Indian and Native American the problem is both groups of people intermingled so much back in the day that in modern context the terms are damn near interchangeable originally these were two distinct groups of people.

A lot of black folk come from a bloodline of American Indians.
This group had to be small because most of the admixture got lost over time by the greater population. So even if there was an ethnogenesis, as some claim. The majority of the gene-pool would have been native American not African in origin.

There are historical cases of African-Native American mixed people.

Crispus Attucks for example is one of them that comes to mind now.

 

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I seemed to have rubbed some people the wrong way. :yeshrug:
I'm going to see if y'all can put the pieces together.


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This group had to be small because most of the admixture got lost over time by the greater population. So even if there was an ethnogenesis, as some claim. The majority of the gene-pool would have been native American not African in origin.

There are historical cases of African-Native American mixed people.

Crispus Attucks for example is one of them that comes to mind now.

Shut the fukk up.
 

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I seemed to have rubbed some people the wrong way. :yeshrug:


The issue you will run into is how Every Single Black American/AA genetically tested, has West Central African DNA.
And none of the Melanesians tested have West-Central African DNA.

And even the modern Native Americans genetically tested, if they have any "Non-Native-American" DNA, it is either "European" or West-Central African, due to mixing with both populations "Post Columbus".

Black Americans take DNA tests all the time, we have ALL been told we "Have Cherokee In Our Family", but when we are tested most of us DO NOT.

"Native American" and by extension, "Aboriginal American" DNA, would be very GENETICALLY DISTANT from African populations.

We would NOT genetically cluster with Africans
, but with other "Non Africans" and especially ones that are 40,000+ years, Genetically separated from the original "Out Of Africa" population.

Yet we find that we are on average 80% "West-Central African".
 
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When a conspiracy theorist is confronted by facts
When a person who knows full well what they’re talking about/living, and is sick of the antics of fleas like you.

Get a life.

Get an identity.

Get away.
 
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