Okafor and Noel on the trading block

[SchoolboyC]

Smart may be expendable but I wouldn't do a 3rd and smart for okafor

I'm down with including either young or Hunter and one of our seconds tho

@SchoolboyC

Sabonis or ellenson?

Ellenson

 

[ManBearPig]

Noah threw them dueces already, fukk garpax

Damn.

And in going to Mississippi in 2 weeks

 

[Frump]

A team like the Hornets is cool with making the playoffs though because they haven't gone enough to set their standards higher. Philly has. Charlotte has yet to reach the "we're tired of barely making the playoffs" stage

My issue with Philly (and I've supported their movement) is that they get one of the guys they were losing for yet they're not happy. It's like waiting in line for some foams, not being far enough ahead in line to get the new ones, and instead of getting a different pair of sneakers you say fukk it all and walk around in the same chancletas you had until next year's version of those foams drop. Can't nobody tell me they spent all of 2015 plotting on landing KAT when Jah got much of the attention during that college season. 2014 went from the Wiggins sweepstakes to "Wiggins, Embiid or Parker and you can't lose". They got one and they're not satisfied? The year before they landed a player who if not for an ACL injury woulda went #1 no questions asked. Still not satisfied. Is it about the player or the pick?

But I don't look at it like they don't like the player. If they trade say Okafor it shows me their now trying to fit the pieces together and build an actual team and think Noel/Embiid fit together better not that they think Okafors a bum

 

[jwinfield]

Noah threw them dueces already, fukk garpax

fukk GarPax, but Noah needs to be gone regardless.

Big men older than 30 with foot and knee issues that come into camp out of shape and shoot 38% should get the

 

[Kang Deezy]

Ellenson

I agree

Can space

Good ball handling and speed in open court

 

[Lifer11]

Like your organization gives a shyt about getting quality basketball players

Think your team gives a shyt about quality when they're trading away two recent lottery picks brehs

Those 2 lottery picks were taken as Best Player Available, with the unrealistic but idealistic hope that one of them could potentially become a star, and if not they'd be used as trade bait to bring back the players that they need to build a balanced team.

Act like the Sixers don't have great basketball minds pulling the strings, or didn't have a great strategic calculated mind in Hinkie that set the Sixers up to be in just this position.

$60 mill in cap space, 1st overall pick, 24th and 26th pick, still have the Lakers protected pick, plus 3 players who were all projected to go number 1 but slid due to injuries. Saric coming over this year.

Now the calculated numbers guy is gone, and a member of one of the NBA's most darling families, the Colangelos is at the helm to make the tough calls on how they move this forward. All of a sudden agents and players are willing to talk to the Sixers again, probably because they have finally ceded to the NBA's wishes and hired league friendly guys to pull the strings, and even hired a guy recently that was in a high ranking position with the NBA just before the Sixers hired him.

All signs point to things falling into place very nicely for the Sixers aka the NBA's latest project to make a legendary team from a huge media market relevant again.

 

[NatiboyB]

Ernie Grunsfeld, if Bradley wants a max deal we might as well just trade him for Noel & Okafor

Porter for okafor straight up?

To be continued...

man what why and how....The 76ers arent moving Jah and Noel for some damn Beal.

 

[PS5 Pro]

man what why and how....The 76ers arent moving Jah and Noel for some damn Beal.

22yr old all star, budding team USA player who has yet to reach his prime vs two players who have never played a relevant NBA game in their lives. All stats are fictional because the teams were bootleg. Ask Kevin love what I'm talking about...

 

[greenygreen]

Smh this reptilian colanglo bout to ruin my team

1-Why announce their on the trading block, that's like putting them in the bargain bin
2-Why trade them now, why not watch oaks 2nd year of development, see if embiid is truly healthy before we trade someone
3-You got all these picks and cap space and the only way you improve the team is by trading the best player? Where's the creativity? Thought you was the free agent whisperer?
4-This guy sucks at trades
5-Why is there a debate about noel vs oak? Oak has best post moves I seen since Duncan and noel is rim protector that don't protect the rim. Oak is younger, less injury prone, has more potential, has longer left on rookie deal there's no debate here trading okafor

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

I'll take Oak on my Lakers for anybody except for the core 4 of D'Tective, Jewls, White Nance, and Clark. Matte of fact, y'all can have Clark plus others since we're getting Simmons or young Durant. He's expendable.

 

[desjardins]

But the sixers don't want to be the raptors they want to be a contender one day and to be that you need a top player

As good a year as the Raptors had they can't win a title with having second tier guys as their best players

This year is their ceiling. Outside of Lebron dying they can't get past the Cavs nor could they beat a west team with Lowry and Derozan as their best players

Raptors have no chance against the Cavs because the Cavs are a super team built around a big three.

You usually can't win a title if your opponents have more of the top x amount of players
for instance the cavs had all 3 of the top 3 players in the series. that being said getting a star doesn't necessarily mean shyt in terms of actually winning a title, there are countless examples proving its more nuanced then that .....including lebron previous stint in cleveland
sixers could get the star they crave and it could just be another garnett in minnesota situation, lebron in cleveland 1.0, or hell Ant Davis now situation

i'm advocating for the raptors approach because it's less of a crap shoot and even if it never results in a title it's way more competitive, better for the fans from a long term perspective, and better for the league

 

[desjardins]

$60 mill in cap space,

. All of a sudden agents and players are willing to talk to the Sixers again, .

That cap space is damn near irrelevant right now. No legit superstar is going to come to the sixers in their current state. Maybe they can get Derozan or someone on that level. That's about it.

And where are you hearing that players are talking to the Sixers now, wouldn't that be tampering?
Yall just pulling shyt out the ass at this point, at least yall optimistic

 

[greenygreen]

A team like the Hornets is cool with making the playoffs though because they haven't gone enough to set their standards higher. Philly has. Charlotte has yet to reach the "we're tired of barely making the playoffs" stage

My issue with Philly (and I've supported their movement) is that they get one of the guys they were losing for yet they're not happy. It's like waiting in line for some foams, not being far enough ahead in line to get the new ones, and instead of getting a different pair of sneakers you say fukk it all and walk around in the same chancletas you had until next year's version of those foams drop. Can't nobody tell me they spent all of 2015 plotting on landing KAT when Jah got much of the attention during that college season. 2014 went from the Wiggins sweepstakes to "Wiggins, Embiid or Parker and you can't lose". They got one and they're not satisfied? The year before they landed a player who if not for an ACL injury woulda went #1 no questions asked. Still not satisfied. Is it about the player or the pick?

Worst part is this ain't about the player this is about Colanglo's ego. He gotta make his mark on the team, he rather be mediocre with his players than win a chip with Hinkgods. So now he'll freely piss away talent and picks to build playoff doormat for lebron. There's NO reason to trade either player right now. Want to improve the guards? Use the cap space and picks Hinkgod blessed you with. But nope he's a horrible gm so he takes the easy route, trade a young stud

 

[Lifer11]

That cap space is damn near irrelevant right now. No legit superstar is going to come to the sixers in their current state. Maybe they can get Derozan or someone on that level. That's about it.

And where are you hearing that players are talking to the Sixers now, wouldn't that be tampering?
Yall just pulling shyt out the ass at this point, at least yall optimistic

$60 mill in cap space is never irrelevant. And when I spoke of players and agents talking to the Sixers now, it was kind of how I see it moving forward. I was listing the changes they've made and just speaking of the hypothetical, but likely way, it will play out moving forward.

The Colangelos are league guys with connections all over the place easily capable of mending the bridges Hinkie burned. Players and agents will at the very least give them the respect of hearing them out.

Also based off the reports that none of the top prospects are refusing to talk or meet with the Sixers, like Porzingis did last year, I think damage control is already well underway.

And I wouldn't count the Sixers out as being a team that could come out of "nowhere" and land a star, or two, in the next few offseasons. Potentially even this one. Anyone with heart and knowledge of the league's history has to view the Sixers as a potential landing spot.

Durant went to dinner with the Sixers trainer, (his old trainer from Texas and apparently a very good friend and mentor) during OKC's last trip to Philly. This most likely means nothing but only they know for sure.

Let's say hypothetically Durant and Westbrook want to continue playing together but not in OKC. The Sixers could potentially sign Durant this year, the Sixers trade Okafor for the 3rd pick and grab Kris Dunn. Take Simmons first. Have Embiid coming off the bench in the beginning of the season. Still have like $30 mil in cap space, and could lure Westbrook next season. Then they need to acquire a SG that can shoot and defend either thru FA, a trade, or the draft. That fast they look something like this...

PG - Westbrook/Dunn
SG - 3pf and/or Def. Specialist SG /Westbrook/Dunn
SF - Durant/Saric/Simmons
PF - Simmons/Saric/Noel/Durant
C - Embiid/Noel/Simmons

Now I know this is CRAZZZZZZZZZY optimistic and has almost no chance of happening, but it shows just how much they are capable of doing.

Stack that bench with defensive and 3pt specialists and get a lot of much deserved luck and they could be one of the all time great teams.

In a much more realistic scenario:
I'd actually like to see them offer a package of Okafor and/or Noel, include the 24th and 26th pick if necessary and give back the Lakers protected pick from next season in exchange for D'snitch Russell and the 2nd overall pick and grab Simmons and Ingram.
I don't care what Russell did, it's a bytch move, but this isn't the drug game and we don't know the whole story anyway. Maybe sign Conley, overpay if they have to for like 2 seasons to lead and mentor Russell. Also consider signing DeRozan or Bradley Beal.

At that point we'd be looking at

PG - Conley/Russell
SG - Russell/Ingram
SF - Ingram/Simmons/Saric
PF - Simmons/Saric
C - Embiid/Simmons

Or

PG - Conley/Russell
SG - Derozan or Beal?/Russell
SF - Ingram/DeRozan/Saric
PF - Simmons/Saric
C - Embiid/Simmons

And still probably anywhere from $20-50 mill in cap space depending on who was actually signed. If they signed Conley I think DeRozan and Beal would be unnecassary, don't stunt Russell's growth when adding either of them still wouldnt make them a contender. But they would have a really good to great starting lineup that is VERY young and an organization that still has like $20-40 mill to spend. And they will have the Bird rights for all their young guys so they'll be able to keep all of them down the line.

Scenarios like this are why knowledgable Sixers fans are so optimistic. It's a very cautious optimism, but it will take a certain kind of stupid and incompetence to not make this team into at least a perennial ECF contender a few years down the line.

And while calling the 1st scenario wildly optimistic is an understatement , the second one is very feasible.

Philly as a city can't take our sports teams being trash much longer, and even though the Eagles are the biggest draw here, the Sixers are actually the heart of the real city (North, South, SW, and NE). Most of the people from these areas in the real inner-city love the Eagles too, but it's the rednecks from the suburbs of PA and south Jersey who save all year for Eagles' (and Flyers) season tickets and then go down with big ass RVs to tailgate that put the Eagles over the top as the biggest draw in Philly. But, especially since Iverson, when the Sixers are good it brings a whole new energy to the city, street by street, that no other team can.

[WayTL:DR]
If you're a Sixers fan and/or Philly native I talked about some potential moves for the Sixers, some overly optimistic some quite feasible, and how the Sixers being good affects the actual inner-city streets of Philly like no other team.

 

[NatiboyB]

22yr old all star, budding team USA player who has yet to reach his prime vs two players who have never played a relevant NBA game in their lives. All stats are fictional because the teams were bootleg. Ask Kevin love what I'm talking about...

Go ahead and give that injured as boy a max