I dapped this due to you giving well thought-out interesting post.Thanks for acknowledging, I am just trying to give a different view to this whole tanking stuff. A lot of teams go by the consistent strategy which is signing few really servicable players, signing some veterans and having one or two very good but not yet elite players who might turn out to be gold or not. Those teams play a few seasons, start winning playoff games and hope that this whole competitive winning culture team image of their franchise may help them take the next step and maybe interest superstar caliber players when they look for a new team to play.
For example celtics have a team of lots of complementary players perfectly built for a superstar like demarcus, they building winning culture, are they going to land him via trade? Very little chance. That's what I am saying, for a team to go from good to elite is very very tough. So it was interesting to see sixers, who had no cornerstone piece, deciding to tank for a few seasons to draft that superstar, was interesting to see how would it turn out, because it was a move that some franchises might have thought but were scared to try. Did their plan work out well? Not that much because unfortunately Embiid is the injury prone and they went by the startegy of drafting best available talent which unfortunately were mostly big men, Okafor and even that Saric guy is like almost 6ft10. The top picks this year are also tall players, they will probably draft Simmons. Maybe this years draft will give them great results.
It's hard to find the perfect time to make a switch from rebuild (or reload) to a win now stage.
Every team with young players need mentorship, thats true, whether its coaching staff or veterans, the biggest mistake that sixers done in their tanking was not acknowledging the lack of veteran presence, landry or brand wasn't enough. They built the losing culture in the sixers locker room, I agree with that. One or two tanking years is enough, three or four is too much as players lose patience. As a result of this losing culture we already saw okafor having a fight in boston. Veterans usually ring chase, thats right, there is still a group of veterans who dont find a contender team to play for, and they can be used to mentor guys. Raps and hawks are talented teams, they did not go to conference finals for no reason, but besides hard working mentality the natural talent is extremely valuable and thats why cavs, warriors, thunder are winning games and considered legit contenders, sixers saw that superstar model but forgot about the mentorship part in those years. Lowry and Derozan gained more experience and they will figure out a few things, not all, for the next season for raptors, will that be enough to beat the natural talent that cavs have? I dont think so. And a year after? There might be a new team with superstars challenging Bron in the east.
It was a high risk high reward move for the sixers, but they made a few mistakes, situation is still possible to fix, it's not a complete fiasco.Its hard to build a contender team when you don't have a superstar caliber player that you build around. Sixers had no player like that before tanking started.
I understand the tanking strategy. I do. That doesn't mean I don't understand the hardest process which is going from bad to below average then to decent. That's the hardest part. Orlando has been in below average land for years. They can barely even become average like a team like Utah for example who is literally league average. Look at Utah. Three franchise players they say. A center who @Malta loves like a son. Another in Exum with franchise potential and they are stuck in average zone. In this league, you gotta have veterans who can play. No other way you can win. The game is a 48 minute game. Attention to detail is extremely important. Most young players lack it but without define roles, you end up with teams who never seem to get it on a nightly basis like Utah.
The reason I bring them up is because that's what is the usual best case scenario of tanking. The rarities is OKC. That's the once in a lifetime LeBron type of impact. Hell, Orlando with Shaq went 41 and 41. Shaq instantly made them average as he was an elite prospect and coming in as an upperclassmen, he was an exceptional prospect and once in a lifetime. They won the lottery from the lowest odds with a team with vets and got a supreme talent in Hardaway and they moved from average to good, skipped very good to elite due to their talent. That's an exception to the rule. Now the norm is the Washington Wizards, the Minnesota Timberwolves with Kevin Love, the Sacramento Kings. This is the norm. These are teams that have players who didn't play to their capabilities. They have trouble developing their players to be impact and all of them had to trade for vets to make a leap from bad to below average and only one, Washington moved up to average. This is the norm of tanking. The best case of the norm was Atlanta. They couldn't develop a single player till Joe Johnson signed a max 70 million dollar deal. Then they got Horford and traded wasted players for Bibby and have been winning since. Even then, they wasted time.
This is the NBA, these teams are not easy to build. You bring up Boston. They are a team of a lot of role players who all fit very well. They don't have an obvious weakness and their well coached. Look at most of their players. They have 4 years of college and they have a lot of young NBA veterans. Thomas has been in the league for 6 years. Turner for 5 years. Crowder for 4 years. Jonas J. Bradley for 5 years. So you add their college experience with their NBA experience. They have a mindset to play system Basketball and their more mature.
I think systems can add guys like to become natural talent. Who though Leonard in college. He was a tweener with a nice shooting stroke who played PF and had impressive tools. Ben McLemore who was an amazing talent and Bill Self stated, the most talented player he's coached is just a below average SG and hasn't seem to improve when by all accounts, he's a very hard worker. How does that happen?
That's why I don't buy into this treadmill shyt. Too many things can happen.



