Old CAC says why he doesn’t do benchpress

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nikka don't nobody care about you meatheads, we really don't.
This entire thread is about taking shots at people who actually know how to bench....

Barbells will always shyt on dumbbells.

Anyone who says or thinks otherwise knows they ain't really strong and they're just looking for an easy way out. :umad:


ol I use dumbbells because my wrist start hurting when I bench with a barbell weak ass nikkas...
 

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Because of my recent experience, I made this so long I had to put it in a spoiler. Read when you have time.

They recommend you don't bench press after 50, because it can start doing damage to the back. But people still do. On that note, I injured my back when I was 26, from bench pressing too heavy one too many reps, and not being able to get the barbell back up to the barbell support arms. I did this one night, again having to roll the extra heavy barbell down to my thighs, and some how get it off of me, but this time the muscle I pulled in my back never really healed all the way. And being young, I never gave it enough time to heal. Since then, when I would help somebody move something heavy, although I was bigger and stronger than the other person, I'd be the one who always had to be extra careful with my back.

I haven't hurt my back in a while, especially since I cut back on the weightlifting. But late in July, my back went out like it never been out before. I thought I was threw, as far as walking normal again. I was taking baby steps for almost three weeks. I actually had to use a walking cane for the first time, since my back didn't heal in only a few days, the way it usually did when this use to happen. But the injury didn't come from weight lifting. This time, I had gotten congested one day sitting in a chilly waiting room, and as a result, I couldn't take my regular walks for a few days because of the congestion. I also cut back on my walks since my dog passed. And when I don't move around, or don't take a walk for awhile, my muscles will get a little stiff. So while I was taking this long break from walking, I decided to take a vacation to the DMV, a 10 to 11 hour drive depending on traffic. The long drive made my legs and back that much more stiff. But they loosened up a few days after I got in town. Then on one of those days, my mother asked me to put this 20 pound turkey in the oven. No matter how strong you think you are, you have to be very careful lifting something like that, and putting it in the oven, because you still have to swing that heavy turkey back towards the oven rack, without being able to bend your knees but so much, less you touch that hot oven door with your arms. But with my mother getting older, she had started talking to me, causing me to momentarily stop with my back stooped over, while still holding this 20 pound turkey, with my knees not bent enough. My back would have usually went out on the spot, put it held. However the next day, I was walking sideways when I got out of bed, and it stayed that way on and off until I left.

So with my back being a little injured, I took that 10 to 11 hour drive back to Atlanta, making it worse again. Then I foolishly cut my front and back lawn the next day, since the grass was almost up to my knees when I got back. Plus I had to use my push lawn mower, since my riding lawnmower had temporarily broke down right before I left. It took forever mowing the lawn with that push lawn mower, as it kept cutting off because of the high grass. Plus I hadn't cut the front and back lawn with a push mower since 2006 or 2007. So I was 16 years older, plus I had a sore back. The next morning, my back was threw as a result of a bad muscle pull. So that's what happened, and it was mostly the result of poor decision making, and a little bad luck. I'm not going to put it on my age, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to cut my front and back lawn at all.

I made this post this long for a reason. Never, I mean never, take your back for granted. And don't risk it just because you want muscles. When my back was out, I couldn't breath sometimes, and I couldn't cough, sneezing, or fart, and I had to be extra careful doing number 2. Getting in bed was painful, and getting out of bad was twice as painful. I thought my days of having sex was over. I began to feel like one of those who was close to me, who suddenly found themselves confined to a wheelchair and a walker. I remember each of them telling me how the girls stopped checking for them. This is how a lot of old people really live, and after bragging that I was one of the few in my circle who was still able to get around without a wheel chair, or walker, or cane, I thought I actually joined them all of a sudden. I even had to think about selling my home, and moving to an assisted living facility, etc...

Well, I'm glad to say my back is fully recovered :whew:. I'm able to do everything I was able to do last year. In fact my back feels stronger, since I've been extra careful getting outta bed, and getting out my recliner. I'm just now realizing how careless I was. Again, believe me when I say you don't want your back to go. Every move you make is connected to your back, even brushing your teeth. This was a wake up call for me, and as far as lifting those weights again, I could, but I think I'll concentrate more on just staying slim, and being able to get around. A lot of you probably already experienced something like this before, especially if you've been weight-lifting, and you've healed. But this is fresh on my mind, and I only bounced back a few weeks ago. As you get older, sometimes you don't bounce back at all. So I hope you know when it's time to start cutting back. Women like you much better if you're slim, and still able to smash, than they do if you're a muscle man, or former muscle man, in a wheelchair, or using a walker, or a cane.
 
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spot on analysis and advice

i've said this to @krackdagawd @The ADD and @Spliff that my best chest gains were with weighted dips and specifically "Y-Dips"


the movement is more natural and its easier to progressive overload (if you fail you just drop down on your feet)

bench press is wild overrated, what is wild underrated is deck of cards pushups tho :damn:

Breh you know better than this....

You can easily do both....

And most sensible and in shape people incorporate both.


And while "bench press" maybe overrated the goat exercises are still barbell squats, power cleans and deadlifts.

Don't let these dumbbell chumps steer the convo otherwise.


They really picked bench, to pick on barbells. When its all about squats and deadlifts.

Those exercises are what separate the boys from men.
 

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For upper pecs I been getting love from landmine presses


One of my favorites.

Especially when you do it with one knee on the ground to get some core work in


Landmine-Press.jpg
 

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Which is likely the reason why he doesn't know what the fukk he is talking about. :mjlol:

Fitness industry summed up:

1. Jump on juice
2. start an insta, tiktok, youtube
3. generate views/base
4. copy some diet books and sell meal plans to people
5. sell workout plans
6. sponsors will start approaching and you have finally made it

Also, most importantly, claim natural and pretend you don't even know what steroids are, else those sponsors won't approach. :ufdup:And if you want to ramp it to peak scummy levels, get into the supplement industry and start selling your own bunk supplements with poor quality control.

Repped.
powerlift dead
 

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Call up another man brehs :dame:

I had him on ignore since he's a #POWDA1 hater so I didn't see the @.
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Just be honest a lot y’all are intimidated by barbells.

I get it. Y’all have terrible form.

No need to try to prop up the usage of dumbbells as being superior to barbells.

I bet a lot y’all don’t squat or deadlift either.

You already know what time it is. Think about how many folks at your gym can bench 225. 315? Now think about how many you see squat 315. 405? But it's coli dudes claiming they can bench 4 wheels just from doing push-ups at the crib.
:mjlol:


Same motherfukkers in here posting be the same dudes lifting hoe weights at the gym with no progression (if they even lift at all) then go home typing :duck:for the coli. :francis:

Oh well, the more weak motherfukkers outchea wildin thinking they're doing it, the more the big movers look like superheroes. :wow:
Just be honest a lot y’all are intimidated by barbells.

I get it. Y’all have terrible form.
I stopped it doing after I hurt myself 2 times. 1st was like impingement and the 2nd was just inflammation. After that I was like lemme check out some alternatives. Not saying the benchpress is bad though, in hindsight, my form was improper on some things and what not so I kind of fukked myself up tbh.

Ball game.
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I have said it in numerous threads on this forum over the years,I did nothing but high volume calisthenics just about everyday from the age of 17 to 30....and sure,I put on some size,gained some strength and looked good...but once I started lifting regularly from age 30 on (I am now 42),my body composition and strength went through the roof.
And I STILL incorporate calisthenics into my routine,its just that now all that shyt does is warm me up for the real meal ahead.
 

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Because of my recent experience, I made this so long I had to put it in a spoiler. Read when you have time.

They recommend you don't bench press after 50, because it can start doing damage to the back. But people still do. On that note, I injured my back when I was 26, from bench pressing too heavy one too many times, and not being able to get the barbell back up to the support arms. I did this one night, again having to roll the extra heavy barbell down to my thighs, and some how get it off of me, but this time the muscle I pulled in my back never really healed all the way. And being young, I never gave it enough time to heal. Since then, when I would help somebody move something heavy, although I was bigger and stronger than the other person, I'd be the one who always had to be extra careful with my back.

I haven't hurt my back in a while, especially since I cut back on the weightlifting. But late in July, my back when out like it never been out before. I thought I was threw, as far as walking normal again. I was taking baby steps for almost three weeks. I actually had to use a walking cane for the first time, since my back didn't heal in only a few days the way it usually does when this use to happen. But the injury didn't come from weight lifting. I had gotten congested one day sitting in a chilly waiting, and I couldn't take my regular walks, something I really cut back on since my dog passed. When I don't move around or walk for too long, my muscles will get a little stiff. So while I was taking this long break from walking, I foolishly decided to take a vacation to the DMV, a 10 to 11 hour drive depending on traffic. The long drive made my legs and back that much more stiff. But I loosened up a few days after I got in town. Then on one of those days, my mother asked me to put this 20 pound turkey in the oven. No matter who you are, you have to be very careful lifting something like that, and putting it in the oven, because you still have to swing that heavy turkey back towards the oven rack, without being able to bend your knees but so much, without touching that hot oven door. But with my mother getting old, she had started talking to me, causing me to momentarily stop with my back stooped over, while still holding this 20 pound turkey. My back would have usually went out on the spot, put it held. However the next day, I was walking side ways when I got out off bed, and it stayed that way off and on until I left.

So with my back being a little injured, I took that 10 to 11 hour drive back to Atlanta. Then I foolishly cut my front and back lawn the next day, since the grass was almost up to my knees when I got back. Plus I had to use my push lawn mower, since my riding lawnmower had just went down before I left. It took forever mowing the lawn with that push lawn mower, as in kept cutting off because of the high grass. Plus I hadn't cut the front and back lawn with a push mower since 2006 or 2007. So I was 16 years older, plus I had a sore back. The next morning, my back was threw as a result of a bad muscle pull. So that's what happened, and it was mostly the result of poor decision making, and a little bad luck. I'm not going to put it on my age, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to cut my front and back lawn at all, not too mention I have about two acres of land.

I made this post this long for a reason. Never, I mean never, take your back for granted. And don't risk it just because you want muscles. When my back was out, I couldn't breath sometimes, and I couldn't cough, sneezing, or fart, and I had to be extra careful doing number 2. Getting in bed was painful, and getting out of bad was twice as painful. I thought my days of having sex was over. I began to feel like one of those who was close to me, who suddenly found themselves confined to a wheel chair, or walker. I remember each of them telling me how the girls stopped checking for them. This is how a lot of old people really live, and after bragging that I was one of the few in my circle who was still able to get around without a wheel chair, or walker, or cane, I thought I actually joined them all of a sudden. I had to think about selling my home, and moving to an assisted living facility, etc...

Well, I'm glad to say my back is fully recovered :whew:. I'm able to do everything I was able to do last year. In fact my back feels stronger, since I've been extra careful getting outta bed, and getting out my recliner. I'm just now realizing how careless I was. Again, believe me when I say you don't want your back to go. Every move you make is connected to your back, even brushing your teeth. This was a wake up call for me, and as far as lifting those weights again, I could, but I think I'll concentrate more on just staying slim, and being able to get around. A lot of you probably already experienced something like this before, especially if you've been weight-lifting, and you've healed. But this is fresh on my mind, and I only bounced back a few weeks ago. Then as you get older, sometimes you don't bounce back. So I hope you know when it's time to start cutting back. Women like you much better if you're slim, and still able to smash, then they do if you're a former muscleman in a wheel chair, or walking with a cane.

:what:
 

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I had him on ignore since he's a #POWDA1 hater so I didn't see the @.
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You already know what time it is. Think about how many folks at your gym can bench 225. 315? Now think about how many you see squat 315. 405? But it's coli dudes claiming they can bench 4 wheels just from doing push-ups at the crib.
:mjlol:


Same motherfukkers in here posting be the same dudes lifting hoe weights at the gym with no progression (if they even lift at all) then go home typing :duck:for the coli. :francis:

Oh well, the more weak motherfukkers outchea wildin thinking they're doing it, the more the big movers look like superheroes. :wow:



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:hubie: be careful calling them out. They might try to prove how strong they are tomorrow by showing up at the gym benching 3 plates

on the smith machine :troll:
 

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:hubie: be careful calling them out. They might try to prove how strong they are tomorrow by showing up at the gym benching 3 plates

on the smith machine :troll:

:unimpressed:


Coli nikkas don't provide receipts: for returns at Walmart, for their lifts, or for their Lamborghinis. They'll be aight. :manny:
 

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bench press is wild overrated


I can't even call it "overrated" anymore. I never hear anyone recommend bench press with a barbell for actual real-world benefit. Not saying it doesn't increase strength, but whatever your actual goals are there is always something else better for reaching them than bench press.

Unless, of course, your only goal is to max in bench press. Which for some people is basically the only reason they lift because they have no real-world use of their body.
 

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I can't even call it "overrated" anymore. I never hear anyone recommend bench press with a barbell for actual real-world benefit. Not saying it doesn't increase strength, but whatever your actual goals are there is always something else better for reaching them than bench press.

Unless, of course, your only goal is to max in bench press. Which for some people is basically the only reason they lift because they have no real-world use of their body.
i realized how wack bench press was when i tried a variation thats older called the "floor press"

all it is is a bench press where your back is on the floor and you have to start with your elbows down. You start seeing and feeling all thats wrong with it that way. I'm not antibarbell by any means but the dude in the video explained it kinematically and elegantly
 

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Breh you know better than this....

You can easily do both....

And most sensible and in shape people incorporate both.


And while "bench press" maybe overrated the goat exercises are still barbell squats, power cleans and deadlifts.

Don't let these dumbbell chumps steer the convo otherwise.


They really picked bench, to pick on barbells. When its all about squats and deadlifts.

Those exercises are what separate the boys from men.
i do know better :pachaha:and as I just said above there are better moves for chest

im not doing em no more, and with age i have to consider longevity more than ego.

this not an "anti-barbell" take its a anti bench press take. I'm still pro "press", squat, deadlift etc with barbells

this shouldnt be taken as a pro-dumbbell take as I'm not necessarily a fan of those either. Progressive overload im a fan of.
 
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