Old head , how big was MC hammer in this prime ?

[L. Deezy]

i aint gots nothing against Hammer
he did what he did & was very sucessful at it
((BUT it just wasnt what we call hip hop))

im not understanding the hammer puff connection
when Hammer was rocking parachute pants with pennie lofters
Puff was turning R&B into HipHop / Soul - with putting Tims & baggy jeans on a quartet R&B group from NC and put nergo leage baseball jerseys & hats with spandex with knee pads on a sultry singer from Yonkers

Why wasnt it? Hip Hop started off party records breh. Hammer was just as true to the roots as anybody.

 

[kingofnyc]

This is false...."Turn This Mutha Out" and "Let's Get It Started" got play on both shows. I think a couple of his others did too....although his later more overt pop shyt didn't.

I think "It's All Good" did too.

Fred.

well when he came on their show which was like 1 maybe 2 times (outta respect, they problaly played his latest vid)
but
teal talk - i cant ever remember them playing a hammer or vanilla ice song

 

[L. Deezy]

Hammer criticizers in here criticize for the wrong thing about Hammer. Talking bout he was a dancer nshyt..lol

EVERYBODY DANCED IN THE 80's.

 

[patscorpio]

Hammer was huge in his prime...anyone saying he wasnt is lying to himself

 

[patscorpio]

Yea Hammer was like huge............the Black Vanilla Ice...........with more hits and way more swag......

MIke had the moonwalk............Hammer had the type-writer..........

hammer was no black vanilla ice breh..hammer was true to himself and what he did which is why he still has his respect even though he fell off 25 years ago...vanilla ice will never get any respect because he straight up lied about his background which is a no no

 

[hex]

Lets get it Started was my shyt.

Mine too. Like I said when I was in middle school (which would've been around the time of his first album) people fukked with him heavy. I was at Central, on Linwood in KCMO....anybody who spent a brief amount of time in Kansas City will tell you that was directly in the middle of the hood....especially in the 80's and 90's. And people loved him. It wasn't until he started ODing on trying to cross over and appear in literally anything (movies, cartoons, commercials, etc.) that rap fans stopped fukking with him.

hammer was no black vanilla ice breh..hammer was true to himself and what he did which is why he still has his respect even though he fell off 25 years ago...vanilla ice will never get any respect because he straight up lied about his background which is a no no

This is how I know you're an OG....a lot of people think everyone hated Vanilla Ice from day 1....he was seen as corny but a dance/pop rapper in the same lane as Kid N Play....but people didn't turn on him until he got caught lying about being from some hood in Miami. And if I remember correctly Luke is the one that exposed him.

Fred.

 

[puppetmaster]

Hammer was huge in his prime...anyone saying he wasnt is lying to himself

This. You couldn’t go anywhere and not see/hear hammer. Kinda how Drake is right now

 

[BmoreGorilla]

This is spot on. It was safe vanilla rap for the radio. We HATED anything that was on the radio it meant it wasn’t authentic lol. Shyt sounds stupid now but that’s how we rocked.
I was definitely riding with big sis n nem if it wasn’t conscious hip hop or gangster shyt it was

Right. I was hearing way too much EPMD back then that Hammer really was never a real option

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

He was far bigger than any artist out now and he was able to co-exist with NWA and street hip-hop but after the L.A. riots and the rise of gang culture and all the other bullshyt that was being brought to light like fakkit ass cops beating Rodney King etc. nobody was tryna hear that upbeat positive shyt no more from Hammer.

If you wasn't a street artist and didn't look authentic people wasn't fukkin with you which is funny considering Hammer was real af

 

[Rhyme n Tekniq]

Take Lil Wayne's late 2000's buzz and mix it with Drake's current buzz and You have .....


scratch that. Hammer was unfathomably popular, I cant compare it to celebrities of today because back then it was the era of the Mega Star; What it meant to be wildly famous was on the level of being a living deity. like the last person in recent memory to reach that level of fame was 50 Cent in that was 15 years ago. Outside of music, Barack Obama during his 1st campaign when he initially announced his candidacy for POTUS, When he still had black hair lol.

 

[patscorpio]

Mine too. Like I said when I was in middle school (which would've been around the time of his first album) people fukked with him heavy. I was at Central, on Linwood in KCMO....anybody who spent a brief amount of time in Kansas City will tell you that was directly in the middle of the hood....especially in the 80's and 90's. And people loved him. It wasn't until he started ODing on trying to cross over and appear in literally anything (movies, cartoons, commercials, etc.) that rap fans stopped fukking with him.





This is how I know you're an OG....a lot of people think everyone hated Vanilla Ice from day 1....he was seen as corny but a dance/pop rapper in the same lane as Kid N Play....but people didn't turn on him until he got caught lying about being from some hood in Miami. And if I remember correctly Luke is the one that exposed him.

Fred.

Yeah vanilla ice got ended the ol school way lol...the wild thing is he is still rich...you would think you'd hear something about him being broke or bankrupt..but no he has kept his millions...and I'm sure ice ice baby is the reason why

 

[Higher Tech]

He was huge. But since there was no social media or internet it’s hard to explain how big of a name he was. He was everywhere.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

even with all the cooked stream numbers of today the top artists in pop are toppin out at like 4-5 million. Please Hammer Don't Hurt Em went diamond 10 million records, 10 million ppl went to a store and copped that shyt at full price. Hammer made something like $40M+ one year which back then is an unreal amount of money.. it'd probably be like 80 million today.

The Chronic changed everything for hip-hop. It was the first huge mainstream street record getting airplay on MTV in the middle of the day. Not just YO! MTV Raps, The Chronic was #1 on their weekly top 20 countdowns and shyt

 

[SunZoo]

Mine too. Like I said when I was in middle school (which would've been around the time of his first album) people fukked with him heavy. I was at Central, on Linwood in KCMO....anybody who spent a brief amount of time in Kansas City will tell you that was directly in the middle of the hood....especially in the 80's and 90's. And people loved him. It wasn't until he started ODing on trying to cross over and appear in literally anything (movies, cartoons, commercials, etc.) that rap fans stopped fukking with him.





This is how I know you're an OG....a lot of people think everyone hated Vanilla Ice from day 1....he was seen as corny but a dance/pop rapper in the same lane as Kid N Play....but people didn't turn on him until he got caught lying about being from some hood in Miami. And if I remember correctly Luke is the one that exposed him.

Fred.

Real shyt.

I give a fukk what nikkas talmbout, Ice Ice Baby is a classic record

If Ice would have had an actual PR team he could kept that routine going for much longer than he did. People fukked with Ice til he got exposed, he won't from the hood, wasn't writing his raps and that Arsenio interview didn't help.

Then he tried to come back gangsta just like Hammer and fell, neither one of them were able to get that off.

 

[kingofnyc]

Because he said he was the of Hip Hop...when them nikkas was about to have a dance battle? You're going way above and beyond in front of some nikkas that don't really know better. Just because you (we) didn't like Hammer hammin it up doesn't mean he wasn't Hip Hop, him being a pop star (aka, popular) doesn't negate that nor give you the right to question someone's understanding of Hip Hop for making a common sense statement.

Wrong.

as i said, if he was their guest they would play his vid
but i dont ever remember them playing his vids otherwise

MTV & BET would play his shyt during the entire day (so, why in the world - would an hour hiphop/rap show; play the same shyt thats on any time of the day - plus its NOT what their core viewers wanted to see)