ODB was not the only thing going for them, that nikka went to jail and when he came out he wasn't the same. Whatever happened to Redman's career is nobody's fault but his own. Method and Red sold a lot of records together and they still tour off that shyt. Wutang makes a lot of the same songs but you can say that about half of the rappers out now. And I'm sure if they changed it up a bit, their core fans would shyt on them.
Old heads, how many of you have accepted hip hop passed you by?
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ODB was not the only thing going for them, that nikka went to jail and when he came out he wasn't the same. Whatever happened to Redman's career is nobody's fault but his own. Method and Red sold a lot of records together and they still tour off that shyt. Wutang makes a lot of the same songs but you can say that about half of the rappers out now. And I'm sure if they changed it up a bit, their core fans would shyt on them.
Trajan
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Haven't checked for new albums in yearsssss. I still fukk with mixtapes tho. They tend to have better music because it's not constrained by label politics. The artists can do them.
French Montana
Drake
Lil Wayne?
Trinidad James
2 Chainz
These tweens can keep new rap
Haven't checked for new albums in yearsssss. I still fukk with mixtapes tho. They tend to have better music because it's not constrained by label politics. The artists can do them.
French Montana
Drake
Lil Wayne?
Trinidad James
2 Chainz
These tweens can keep new rap
I agree with your second paragraph but that last paragraph, the bolded sentence
The early 2000's had some amazing, classic shyt. Ghostface, Dead Prez, Nas, Jay Z, Scarface, Talib, Game, 50, Kanye, Little Brother, Outkast, Sticky Fingaz to name a few dropped some incredible shyt during that period you refer to. Hip Hop today aint touching that.
I agree with your second paragraph but that last paragraph, the bolded sentence
The early 2000's had some amazing, classic shyt. Ghostface, Dead Prez, Nas, Jay Z, Scarface, Talib, Game, 50, Kanye, Little Brother, Outkast, Sticky Fingaz to name a few dropped some incredible shyt during that period you refer to. Hip Hop today aint touching that.
But todays hip hop still has more than half those artists u named..they dnt even come from that era of hip hop
50 was the hottest mufcka to come out in that era
Rii now its Drake
And imo I'd take Drake ova 50
50 cant spit forreal
Drake can
u compare the 2000-2006 roster with todays there is no competition
In that era it was
TI
Game
50
Dose number of flash in the pan artist(DJ Unk, Joc, D4L, J Kwon etc)
dnt compare the year of flash in the pan artists to now.
where we got
Cole(even doe i dnt fck wit him)
Asap
Kdot
Drake
Ross
Schoolboy Q
and a plethora of others who are droppin heat with different styles
We got it good now
MegaTronBomb!
Power is in my hair nikka
There isn't just much competition anymore?
you can't even sit here and say Tity Boi>>>2Chainz, cause it's not true...dude clearly progressed from 10 years ago..... but let you tell it, he didn't get better, everybody else just either died or went to jail.
But you don't like ignorant music, so how exactly would you know he didn't get better?
by rule, if you don't like ignorant music.... you weren't listening to anything Atlanta was putting out since 2000, except for Outkast and B.o.B....and possibly Killer Mike.
MegaTronBomb!
Power is in my hair nikka
That's Eiffel 65
you're like pushing 40 and you hate everything, you should know who they are breh.
in fact, you should hate them even more for being sampled by Kanye for one of his biggest songs ever...cause that's not hip hop
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I agree with your second paragraph but that last paragraph, the bolded sentence
The early 2000's had some amazing, classic shyt. Ghostface, Dead Prez, Nas, Jay Z, Scarface, Talib, Game, 50, Kanye, Little Brother, Outkast, Sticky Fingaz to name a few dropped some incredible shyt during that period you refer to. Hip Hop today aint touching that.
I meant hot mainstream hiphop. Dead Prez, Little Brother, Sticky, and even Talib and even ghost don't count. TDE is better than most of them anyway.
This's the problem I have with most new-school haters/old-school lovers, they have very selective memory. They dig very deep to prove how good the music was in the past (in your case: little brother and dead prez), but when it comes to new music, they can't get past French Montana and weezy
when I was comparing the two eras, I was talking about Kendrick Lamar, Drake, and Big Sean compared to Nelly, Ja, and old cash money.
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What's funny is the dudes in here that are from THIS generation shytting on today's music.....
**Throws in Tink mixtape (CD)**
**Drives outta thread**
**Throws in Tink mixtape (CD)**
**Drives outta thread**
I meant hot mainstream hiphop. Dead Prez, Little Brother, Sticky, and even Talib and even ghost don't count. TDE is better than most of them anyway.
This's the problem I have with most new-school haters/old-school lovers, they have very selective memory. They dig very deep to prove how good the music was in the past (in your case: little brother and dead prez), but when it comes to new music, they can't get past French Montana and weezy
when I was comparing the two eras, I was talking about Kendrick Lamar, Drake, and Big Sean compared to Nelly, Ja, and old cash money.
Dead Prez doesnt count even though their biggest hit was all over the radio and tv constantly? You didnt have to dig deep at all to find them, just switch the radio to on.
I feel like the spirit and quality isn't there anymore. No one is willing to take chances and push the envelope and boundaries to create something never done before. 
in, out.
It's not just rap though, other genres of music are suffering from the same thing. Between that, and just tooooooo much access to the artists day to day life (TMZ, MTO, TV GOSSIP, ETC), has watered down the craft to only reinforce the feelings I have.
in, out.It's not just rap though, other genres of music are suffering from the same thing. Between that, and just tooooooo much access to the artists day to day life (TMZ, MTO, TV GOSSIP, ETC), has watered down the craft to only reinforce the feelings I have.
There isn't just much competition anymore?
you can't even sit here and say Tity Boi>>>2Chainz, cause it's not true...dude clearly progressed from 10 years ago..... but let you tell it, he didn't get better, everybody else just either died or went to jail.
But you don't like ignorant music, so how exactly would you know he didn't get better?
by rule, if you don't like ignorant music.... you weren't listening to anything Atlanta was putting out since 2000, except for Outkast and B.o.B....and possibly Killer Mike.
Yes, that's right. I'm saying he is no better. He simply has little to no competition these days and "hiphop" has moved to the direction of ignorant music...which is perfect for him.
How do I know he didn't get better??? Because I've listened. I give nearly every artist a chance. I listened to him to give him a shot, that's how I formulated an opinion.
And yes, you're fairly accurate. I never jumped on the ATL bandwagon except for OutKast, Dungeon Family, and Goodie Mobb.
@MegaTronBomb! really dropping some truth in here. 
Every generation goes through the same damn cycle every time.
"These kids don't have it tough"
"They didn't grow up like us"
"They are soft"
"There music isn't as good"
"They weren't concerned about the issues like we were"
"The new kids are dumb"
"What do they do better than us? Nothing"
People have been saying that since the beginning of time for every genre of music. Are those criticisms and broad generalizations true? Depends on where you're coming from. There's a lot of bias for nostalgia and age in every facet of life whether it be music, cars, movies, work, food, whatever. Today's generations will be saying the same shyt people in this thread are talking about 10 years from now. Some people are literally "stuck" in an era and refuse to accept anything after. I feel sorry for them. There's good music in every era.
Every generation goes through the same damn cycle every time.
"These kids don't have it tough"
"They didn't grow up like us"
"They are soft"
"There music isn't as good"
"They weren't concerned about the issues like we were"
"The new kids are dumb"
"What do they do better than us? Nothing"
People have been saying that since the beginning of time for every genre of music. Are those criticisms and broad generalizations true? Depends on where you're coming from. There's a lot of bias for nostalgia and age in every facet of life whether it be music, cars, movies, work, food, whatever. Today's generations will be saying the same shyt people in this thread are talking about 10 years from now. Some people are literally "stuck" in an era and refuse to accept anything after. I feel sorry for them. There's good music in every era.
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Jone2three45
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I just turned 26,
I will say this,
I dislike drill/trap/emotional/house music now,
Just like I dislike 2006 version of crunk/coke music.
Hip-hop/rap passed me by summer of 2005.
I will say this,
I dislike drill/trap/emotional/house music now,
Just like I dislike 2006 version of crunk/coke music.
Hip-hop/rap passed me by summer of 2005.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
people steady chalking this up to strictly nostalgia are showing that theyre really not hip-hop and don't see the big picture.
wake up and take notice to whats going on.
no wonder we're getting swindled out of our own chit with such ease.
dudes is stupid.
you cant be serious.
yall in here trippin.
lol @ the early/mid '00s names mentioned. very short list.
most of these current names that youre reppin wouldn't have even bothered to pick up the mic in the early '00s. and if the game wasn't such a corporate dictatorship, most of these dudes wouldn't be on now neither.
and kdot had a deal back then, and nobody cared about his corny @$$.
wake up and take notice to whats going on.
no wonder we're getting swindled out of our own chit with such ease.
dudes is stupid.
you cant be serious.
yall in here trippin.
But todays hip hop still has more than half those artists u named..they dnt even come from that era of hip hop
50 was the hottest mufcka to come out in that era
Rii now its Drake
And imo I'd take Drake ova 50
50 cant spit forreal
Drake can
u compare the 2000-2006 roster with todays there is no competition
In that era it was
TI
Game
50
Dose number of flash in the pan artist(DJ Unk, Joc, D4L, J Kwon etc)
dnt compare the year of flash in the pan artists to now.
where we got
Cole(even doe i dnt fck wit him)
Asap
Kdot
Drake
Ross
Schoolboy Q
and a plethora of others who are droppin heat with different styles
We got it good now
lol @ the early/mid '00s names mentioned. very short list.
most of these current names that youre reppin wouldn't have even bothered to pick up the mic in the early '00s. and if the game wasn't such a corporate dictatorship, most of these dudes wouldn't be on now neither.
and kdot had a deal back then, and nobody cared about his corny @$$.
I meant hot mainstream hiphop. Dead Prez, Little Brother, Sticky, and even Talib and even ghost don't count. TDE is better than most of them anyway.
This's the problem I have with most new-school haters/old-school lovers, they have very selective memory. They dig very deep to prove how good the music was in the past (in your case: little brother and dead prez), but when it comes to new music, they can't get past French Montana and weezy
when I was comparing the two eras, I was talking about Kendrick Lamar, Drake, and Big Sean compared to Nelly, Ja, and old cash money.
Dig deep
First off you clearly didn't read my first post so read the paragraph below:
Call it ignorance, but i will always have hope that there will be some artists from any generation that i can f*ck with. Right now TDE are a breath of fresh air for me. KRIT got soul i feel it in his music. Skyzoo too. I f*cks with Nipsey and J Cole, i know both get hate (especially the latter) but they both remind me of the 90s/2000s to a certain extent. There will always some keeping hip hop alive for me.
Dam near everyone i knew had lets get free. It had one of the biggest hip hop bangers on it, every club i went to played that song.
Supreme Clientele .... thats digging deep? Im sure every hip hop head knows about that album. I dont fukk with 50 but GRODT was a classic and was all over the airwaves and clubs, so was the documentary, the speakerbox etc etc.
There is no digging, this is very public music i listed. Of course there was trash too, there is trash in every era.