Old heads, how many of you have accepted hip hop passed you by?

[FreshAIG]

The crazy thing is, Hip Hop is still a baby. It's a young genre. It's only about, realistically speaking, 35-40 years old.

Too much more is gonna shift and change for anyone to be too old for the genre yet. Rock fans never say they're too old for their music. They just have a greater appreciation and respect for their legends. It took time tho. I think Rap will get to that point eventually.

 

[No1]

To quote Wale's grammatically incorrect ass, "Hip-Hops unbalance has got out of hand." That's really mainstream hip-hop's biggest problem. Like @MegaTronBomb! said, yes hip hop has passed a lot of you guys by but it's largely your, or your generation's own doing because you choose to either (A) be stuck on a nostalgia trip or (B) only listen to the radio and then complain about hip hop on the radio being bad and the game being messed up and then (C) not buying the albums of people you do like which is why they are not on the radio I.E. macklemore coming up grassroots.

You don't see legends of other genres struggling to sell to this degree after 4-year hiatuses, but it happens in hip-hop. I wonder why.


Oh, and (D) the artists who are older than you that are still popping that people like gator posted up aren't catering to your demographic so the fact that they're older than you means nothing. By and large, their most popular songs are catered to people in their late teens and early to mid 20s.


NOW, with that said, most of the shyt on the radio is objectively garbage, but I don't even listen to the radio. I d\l the mixtapes I like, and then d\l albums I think I might like, and if I do, I go buy the album. Hip Hop shouldn't pass anyone by with that approach. Only if you use the mainstream as a proxy for Hip-Hop, which is strange because you cats came up when hip-hop was underground.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

I'm an old head fam, what do you consider todays hip hop that some of us old dudes might be giving the to?

I know I support alot of the newer more visible artists but will admit that the music im drawn to is probley influenced by the shyt I came up listening to.

But I think im too old for the Odd Future, Lil B type stuff, didnt get that at all but I fall back from criticizing other peeps for checking for it.

White rappers (mac miller,Bronson,Macklemore,Riff Raff da gawd), non-gangsta rappers who are from the hood( Kendrick), people who have funny haircuts (wiz/ Danny Brown) or dont dress like "rappers".

hell, the hate rappers get for looking "soft" or not having a overwhelming image... is major.

 

[Dzali OG]

brother you made my night with this prolific post

sh!t is the gospel I live by especially the underlined. if I don't get a "who's that" I'm not doin my job.

its funny to cuz I have these h0es, ratchetychicks etc like "oooooo"

for example like 2 weeks ago I'm in the whip wit 2 strippers n my cuzin boy who all like 20-24 so they on that wiz khalifa/2chainz sh!t.

knowin I ain't wanna bore these btches to death I made a quick playlist in the gas station
so I could provide beats for all of us while maintaining my sanity

noreaga/meek millz- scared money
papoose/ron browz- get at me
styles p/sheek- hater love
jada/styles p- in and out
fabolous- money talks
noreaga- queens get the money
asap rocky/asap ferg- take it easy freestyle
da bounce squad ft jada- bounce is back
cnn/foxy- bang bang
the kid daytona/noreaga- the champ remix
blanco/jacka/messy marv/lil rue- donkey kong
nas- don't body yaself
rustee juxx/torae -double execution
noreaga/frenchmontana/bustarhymes/raekwon- faces of death
noreaga/busta rhymes/game- lehgooo
nas/scarface- hiphop
jon connor- fckin problems
rick ross/nas- triple beam
lox- who you mad at
blanco/jacka/husalah/freeway - megaman
o.d.b./thirston howl - one shot two shot
stalley/scarface- swangin
blanco/jacka/trae the truth- punchout
rick ross/kool g rap- white sand II
nas- ny state of mind II
rihanna/noreaga- diamond (dj ted smooth rmx)
charli baltimore/ghostface- stand up
ghostface - stapleton sex them h0es reaction to this

if you want me to upload this lemme know, that goes for any of y'all

You get what I'm saying breh...

And what we're saying went over 90 percent of the coli's head!

nikkas now to busy trying to bump what everyone else is pumpin. We can see it from this forum when Gucc or Ross drop. Everyone is dling it that night and giving praise. Myself...I pass mostly cos everyone else is on it. That's hip hop...I don't want what EVERYONE else listening too...I school nikkas, not follow the crowd. That's going back to the "No crossover" era of hip hop.

And don't get me wrong, I have plenty of Guch, but my guests won't hear it. They gonna hear something they prob never heard cos they not into hip hop like that.

We need more nikkas like me and you...

Actually we need to make subtitles for this other rap so people can know the difference. We dropped the ball when we allowed rap to be mixed in with hip hop.

 

[Big Mel]

That's Eiffel 65

you're like pushing 40 and you hate everything, you should know who they are breh.

in fact, you should hate them even more for being sampled by Kanye for one of his biggest songs ever...cause that's not hip hop

Well baby shoulders, I listen to hip hop. don't really feel the need to grow my hair out and venture into electronica waters. also, i'm the same age as 2chainz and much more youthful and exuberant in appearance.


Stronger was a bad song.

 

[CrimsonTider]

To quote Wale's grammatically incorrect ass, "Hip-Hops unbalance has got out of hand." That's really mainstream hip-hop's biggest problem. Like @MegaTronBomb! said, yes hip hop has passed a lot of you guys by but it's largely your, or your generation's own doing because you choose to either (A) be stuck on a nostalgia trip or (B) only listen to the radio and then complain about hip hop on the radio being bad and the game being messed up and then (C) not buying the albums of people you do like which is why they are not on the radio I.E. macklemore coming up grassroots.

You don't see legends of other genres struggling to sell to this degree after 4-year hiatuses, but it happens in hip-hop. I wonder why.


Oh, and (D) the artists who are older than you that are still popping that people like gator posted up aren't catering to your demographic so the fact that they're older than you means nothing. By and large, their most popular songs are catered to people in their late teens and early to mid 20s.


NOW, with that said, most of the shyt on the radio is objectively garbage, but I don't even listen to the radio. I d\l the mixtapes I like, and then d\l albums I think I might like, and if I do, I go buy the album. Hip Hop shouldn't pass anyone by with that approach. Only if you use the mainstream as a proxy for Hip-Hop, which is strange because you cats came up when hip-hop was underground.

Why don't you and @MegaTronBomb! just say what is blantantly apparent?

These posters are upset that the music they like/grew up with is not the rap music that is popular?

If it is not that, then how do any arguments in this thread make sense?

 

[Deoji]

i'm too old to read all y'all posts...

I'm 35 and listen to a lot of current shyt. It will never be like it was in terms of originality and diversity in the music. But i can appreciate it for what it is. The internet has made the world smaller so the regional, cultural differences are lessened across the board in terms of fashion and music. I do miss that part. A NY record vs a west coast record, etc. Each had their own elements to bring to the table. Regional rap was the shyt. Even within the regions you had your difference sub-genres. And they were dope in their own right. So in short, hip hop will never pass me by, nikka.

 

[The Dust King]

seems like you think hip hop has to be from NY to be ''real''.
oh, and shame on you for bumpin the stalley version of Swangin. G Side too real for eastcoast lames like you.

your still mad because I told you daft punk ain't hiphop?

that's a fact lil homey I'm sorry your on a hiphop board and ain't hiphop

as far as my list you must be blind or stupid.

scarface/rickross are from the south, messy marv and jacka are from cali. jon connor is from the midwest.

jus cuz everyone in NY and NJ bumps nuthin but down south don't mean I gotta follow. I rep my generation proudly. and 90% of sh!t I listed was brand new

so because the internet makes fun of stalley I gotta be a follower?

u don't know nuthin about swag you sound like a 5'0 mexican/wigger talkin bout killah priest is the GOAT then sayin daft punk is album of the year.

I been on sohh since 01 and u the first person I might ignore. stfu already I ain't respondin to you no more you sour patch kid

You get what I'm saying breh...

And what we're saying went over 90 percent of the coli's head!

nikkas now to busy trying to bump what everyone else is pumpin. We can see it from this forum when Gucc or Ross drop. Everyone is dling it that night and giving praise. Myself...I pass mostly cos everyone else is on it. That's hip hop...I don't want what EVERYONE else listening too...I school nikkas, not follow the crowd. That's going back to the "No crossover" era of hip hop.

And don't get me wrong, I have plenty of Guch, but my guests won't hear it. They gonna hear something they prob never heard cos they not into hip hop like that.

We need more nikkas like me and you...

Actually we need to make subtitles for this other rap so people can know the difference. We dropped the ball when we allowed rap to be mixed in with hip hop.

I can't even compound on this. again you hit the nail on the head. I kno friends and family that play ross/gucci/waka/wayne etc all day but when I start playin it was written and doe or die they wanna only play songs from there then a hour later we end up bac at meek millz.

its like even the reminiscin can last so long. I told my boy the other day what's wrong is nggaz that know better but still get caught in the b.s.

ex crate diggers I kno bumpin jeezy but tellin me KRS ain't put out music in years. its like hiphop armeggedon, we truly the lasts of a dying breed.

since it got nice out I herd a few heads playin wutang forever, I am, ready to die and illmatic. while in washington heights today I herd "party & bullsh!t" comin out somebody apartment and somebody else drove by playin busta rhymes "rhymes galore"

if my cuzin gets this DJn gig at this strip joint ima have these broads strippin and twerkin to noreaga, 2live crew and LL cool j and sh!t like that

 

[Wild self]

White rappers (mac miller,Bronson,Macklemore,Riff Raff da gawd), non-gangsta rappers who are from the hood( Kendrick), people who have funny haircuts (wiz/ Danny Brown) or dont dress like "rappers".

hell, the hate rappers get for looking "soft" or not having a overwhelming image... is major.

You see it. Cats still traumatized and brainwashed from the prolonged gangsta rap dominance of the late 80s-mid 00s still think that being "hard" or "gangsta" affects the quality of music that you make. Since Kanye blew up, that gangsta image, that IMO harmed black folks' way of thinking, has been stripped down and marginalized to an old head thing now. Glad that happened, cause now people can focus on the music again.

I'm only 20 something and I know that era is gone. Long gone. I'm happy that the new lyrical cats are selling and making money, which is a first since the late 90s. As long as French, Keef, etc., keep on flopping, and the likes of K-Dot is closing on a platinum (!) plaque with Cole and others having proper exposure, I couldn't be happier.

The future is indeed bright, and I can't wait for the last of the bullshyt to be gone from the airwaves altogether.

 

[No1]

Why don't you and @MegaTronBomb! just say what is blantantly apparent?

These posters are upset that the music they like/grew up with is not the rap music that is popular?

If it is not that, then how do any arguments in this thread make sense?

I mean that's true, and I've gone down that path with them before. But a lot of these cats do all sound the same. When I said "unbalance," I was hinting at that actually. If a plethora of artists were popping then no one would be complaining. There have always been rappers that people don't like and that some do, it's just now that only one or two types of rappers are popping and they don't like it. I was saying that it's their fault though.

Think about it, cats like me and you weren't the people old enough to be buying a bunch of music when the shift happened or began to happen. We weren't the ones in the club or dictating what got play, we took cues from people older than us (pre-net really booming). Which would be the very people in this thread complaining. The conclusion one can draw is that hip-hop has always been about trends, and the rest of their generation (who largely bump all the same stuff that we do) moved on with the trends and they're stuck in older trends. Which, may have been better, but were still trends. So it's not that they "outgrew hip hop", it's that hip hop changed before they were ready for it to change, they wanted it to symbolize something that it really no longer does at a mainstream level (though that's shifting).

 

[No1]

You see it. Cats still traumatized and brainwashed from the prolonged gangsta rap dominance of the late 80s-mid 00s still think that being "hard" or "gangsta" affects the quality of music that you make. Since Kanye blew up, that gangsta image, that IMO harmed black folks' way of thinking, has been stripped down and marginalized to an old head thing now. Glad that happened, cause now people can focus on the music again.

I'm only 20 something and I know that era is gone. Long gone. I'm happy that the new lyrical cats are selling and making money, which is a first since the late 90s. As long as French, Keef, etc., keep on flopping, and the likes of K-Dot is closing on a platinum (!) plaque with Cole and others having proper exposure, I couldn't be happier.

The future is indeed bright, and I can't wait for the last of the bullshyt to be gone from the airwaves altogether.

See that's hate though, I don't need to be happy about a certain type of artist's success and then hope another type of artist is an utter failure. There's enough room for every type of artist. I don't want it to be stale at all. Diversity is usually a good thing.

 

[Wild self]

See that's hate though, I don't need to be happy about a certain type of artist's success and then hope another type of artist is an utter failure. There's enough room for every type of artist. I don't want it to be stale at all. Diversity is usually a good thing.

You right, but we got more than enough floss rap/ gangsta rap for a lifetime. Maybe if it was in small doses, then yeah, I can accept it.

 

[The Blind Man]

White rappers (mac miller,Bronson,Macklemore,Riff Raff da gawd), non-gangsta rappers who are from the hood( Kendrick), people who have funny haircuts (wiz/ Danny Brown) or dont dress like "rappers".

hell, the hate rappers get for looking "soft" or not having a overwhelming image... is major.

Well I never heard a Mac Miller song that I know of, only heard of Macklemore thru the thriftshop tune seemed a bit gimmicky but hey if thats your thing, Bronson is most def a 90's inspired type artist, Kendrick & TDE are dope as fukk to me, only know of Wiz thru work with Spitta, Kush & OJ too. Danny Brown aint no young dude, dude is easily in his 30's.

So most of your examples are pretty much what I said in my first post, inspired by 90's music, so not sure how that qualifies as passing us old heads by.

 

[The Blind Man]

people who have funny haircuts (wiz/ Danny Brown) or dont dress like "rappers".

hell, the hate rappers get for looking "soft" or not having a overwhelming image... is major.

And the part I bolded aint new either fam, De La Soul, Tribe, dudes with crazy ass high top fades with blonde streaks and shyt, Outkast went all space age, there was plenty of variety/diversity in the game that we embraced, good music is good music regardless off your back story, like I really give a fukk.

So again I dont see what has passed us by, like I said, Lil B, Odd Future I didnt get, when Soulja Boy came out with that superman tune I had the face, but the kids loved it, So I figure, the dude aint making this music for my old ass, cant hate on the kid for that.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

And the part I bolded aint new either fam, De La Soul, Tribe, dudes with crazy ass high top fades with blonde streaks and shyt, Outkast went all space age, there was plenty of variety/diversity in the game that we embraced, good music is good music regardless off your back story, like I really give a fukk.

So again I dont see what has passed us by, like I said, Lil B, Odd Future I didnt get, when Soulja Boy came out with that superman tune I had the face, but the kids loved it, So I figure, the dude aint making this music for my old ass, cant hate on the kid for that.

I'm saying tho, there were a lot of dudes who get a pass for things...simply cause they came out in the 90's.

had a group like Arrested Development or Tribe come out today... they'd get all types of hate it.


This thread is about the old heads, who've become very much out of tune with what's hot now..and couldn't tell you much about current hip hop....not cause they hate the new stuff, but cause they've settled into a certain time period and they're ok with it.