Old heads, is it true Reasonable Doubt...

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people in here acting like jay was bigger than busta in '96.
fukk nah!!
busta made it all the way to africa in '96.
no one knew of jay in '96.

i hate revisionist historians!!!
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If we keeping it real.. Jay really benefitted from the loss of Big and Pac :yeshrug:

He put out good albums...he talked the shyt....we bought it and people gave him the throne.

If anything it was a few Nas albums we had to go back and realize were classics from that era.

Its weird about Jay Z...because DMX > Jay Z in 98/99.

He was great and all...but also got bodied by Nas in 2001 :manny:


But he's been in the game so long.....as they say history goes to the victors..
 

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Yeah I'm from day era..RD is a classic..big problem is, there were alot of bigger artist in the game...when pac and big pop along with NAS and WU, outlast, fugees, etc, etc...Jay got outshined really bad...in those days pac was like Mike Jordan and jayz was literally a 6th man off the bench:manny:...he wasn't even in the starting line up back then..not because it was a trash album.(.cause it is a classic to me) but who could drop anything relevant while "all eyes on me" and" ready to die" life after death is on the scene? Not to mention NAS the goat...like someone else said, Jay didn't really pop off till vol 2..and even then he couldn't match the talent from the mid nineties:martin:

As somebody told me a while back. Even when he was at his best he wasnt the best :wow:
 

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For me Jay Z was on my radar. I used to read Source magazine heavy back then. I was up on his singles and copped the tape with Aint no nikka. So I was looking forward to his album and when it came out I bumped it heavy. I went to chill with my cousin and he is a hood nikka. He is like....who is this?:dwillhuh:. He is nice.

I think if you was plugged into up and coming artists at the time you was in the loop. I had time for that. My cuzzo was hustling.
 

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im not a jay fan tho.

but yea, on one hand, im glad that his chit is coming back to bite him in the ass. sales are always coming off of his lips as well, even tho he knows hes full of chit when he talks about that.



my man said reasonable doubt was promoted by def jam.
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you basically DQ'ed yourself with the bolded.

youre admitting that you were ignorant to what was going on at the time(at least concerning certain matters like the topic), yet you want to call out something as revisionist history?

DOG. :comeon:

How so when the topic is was it popping or not? Yall arguing that it was are confused yourself on what even defines popping.

One minute its "only the hiphop heads matter yall ,not casual listeners:mjcry:",next minute your tellin us how it got daily spins on mtv:childplease:

Which is it?First of all how many nikkas even had cable back then:dahell:?

All I'm telling you is nobody I knew was talking bout no RD back then or that song,and being that it used the beat of a true bay area classic nikkas who did hear it would've likely been disgusted by the misuse of this beat after hearing it used on a classic track.

Were we true hiphop heads?probaly not,but based on the fact you bringing up mtv views,you know like I know what poppin really means:sas1:,and it aint "Real hiphop heads liked it yall:troll:"

Lets not use the word poppin so loosely for the sake of arguing,just keep it at hiphop heads liked it,unless that's not good enough....Or maybe its not and you want the same validation Jay wanted when he himself said it was slept on:sas2:....Im not mad at that,who doesn't want they album to be TRULY poppin?
 

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reasonable doubt is a classic in terms of quality.

jay-z basically said it was a great album for so many years he basically made folks go back and rerate it with time...

without doubt it was a 'second tier' hip hop album as far as what folks were checking for at the time it came out...

still a great classic album
 

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How so when the topic is was it popping or not? Yall arguing that it was are confused yourself on what even defines popping.

One minute its "only the hiphop heads matter yall ,not casual listeners:mjcry:",next minute your tellin us how it got daily spins on mtv:childplease:

Which is it?First of all how many nikkas even had cable back then:dahell:?

All I'm telling you is nobody I knew was talking bout no RD back then or that song,and being that it used the beat of a true bay area classic nikkas who did hear it would've likely been disgusted by the misuse of this beat after hearing it used on a classic track.

Were we true hiphop heads?probaly not,but based on the fact you bringing up mtv views,you know like I know what poppin really means:sas1:,and it aint "Real hiphop heads liked it yall:troll:"

Lets not use the word poppin so loosely for the sake of arguing,just keep it at hiphop heads liked it,unless that's not good enough....Or maybe its not and you want the same validation Jay wanted when he himself said it was slept on:sas2:....Im not mad at that,who doesn't want they album to be TRULY poppin?
Bay classic? Isn't Ain't No Nikka the same shyt as EPMD It's My Thing? What Bay song used the beat?
 

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Ain't No Nikka is by far the worst song on the album, by the way :scusthov:

Probably unpopular opinion but Brooklyn's Finest is weak :manny:

The rest of the album though :blessed:
 

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nikkas really need to stop with this Rd ain't a classic. 20 years later and nikkas know that album word for word. Foh :martin:
Some nikka knows every album word for word. Doesn't mean much. Not to mention people can always go back and chexk for an artist after they "pop". Most 2Pac "fans" weren't rocking with him on "2Pacalypse Now"
 
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From what i can remember the track with foxy brown was getting spins, i only really noticed the other singles when vol.1 came out and sunshine was getting so much radio and tv play :scusthov:

Sunshine only got radio play on the east coast. The South, and West coast radio stations weren't bumping that shyt, and they only played that Streets is Watching song in the south every once and a blue moon during "quiet storm" hours.
 

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Sunshine only got radio play on the east coast. The South, and West coast radio stations weren't bumping that shyt, and they only played that Streets is Watching song in the south every once and a blue moon during "quiet storm" hours.
I remember hearing sunshine out here all the time on the radio, the video used to come on CMC (local channel that showed videos from like 2-6pm) after school damn near every day. "Who you wit" got burn also....As far as RD singles, i only remember "ain't no nikka" getting radio burn, but that was because of foxy and it was on the nutty prof soundtrack. "Dead presidents" got played on the box a lot
 
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