Old heads, is it true the '98 DMX is what killed the shiny suit era & forced Hov to change his sound?

[Whips-n-Chains]

They don't know. If you younger and listening to albums from 98,99,2000 etc. it sounds so much better than most of today's shyt. But, at the time, hiphop felt like it was dying to us. shyt went from a classic album every two weeks to every three to six months. fukk diddy eternally.

Facts... like you said we were still getting dope projects, but nothing as good as, or at the rate of the period of 93-96.

 

[Toe Jay Simpson]

The longer Jay stays away from the mic the less he can control his narrative and the truth comes out. Jay was NEVER the top guy in the game. Hes more of a Hip Hop Madonna that could quickly to rapidly changing trends. But even in doing that says a lot about him being more of a follower than a trend setter.

 

[Mac Ten]

Shiny Suit era resulted in one of Jay’s worst albums….


Jay caught Swizz at the right time.

Money, Cash, Hoes sounded like something that Cam’ron would rap over.

Shanghai damn near sounds like Money, Cash, Hoes

 

[Mac Ten]

When linkin park was hot he made an album with them... same with a known pedophile.. twice... hov only cares about relevance not art

Facts.


Already snatched his soul.


Jay needed Kelly for a alley oop and it backfired

 

[DarkmanX]

offtopic:

Funny how thats what 50 did with those Game records yet people say 50 ghostwrote for Game

So Ja wrote for Jay on Can I Get A??

Basically mute your vocals, already had a hook and the artist mimmics your flow..you only writing your verses.

 

[M4T]

Did most of the labels pass on Jay z because they thought his voice was too high pitch for a rapper? Nowadays, they'd say Jay z voice is too deep

 

[M4T]

offtopic:

Funny how thats what 50 did with those Game records yet people say 50 ghostwrote for Game

So Ja wrote for Jay on Can I Get A??

Basically mute your vocals, already had a hook and the artist mimmics your flow..you only writing your verses.

Yea but we don't consider hook writing ghost writing, that's no different than rappers having someone else write the hook,I'm sure Pharrell wrote a few weeks for Jay Z too, but for a lyrical rapper Jay z is good at hooks

 

[Awesome Wells]

Shiny Suit era resulted in one of Jay’s worst albums….

Nah.

Vol. 1 is actually one of his Top 5 albums.

You wildin' with that take, bro, lol.

 

[2ATMsYouSteppinOrWhat]

Nah.

Vol. 1 is actually one of his Top 5 albums.

You wildin' with that take, bro, lol.

*top 3 hov album

and might be his best album lyrically

 

[Awesome Wells]

*top 3 hov album

and might be his best album lyrically

Truth! Incredibly classic album.

What you have as his Top 3?

 

[2ATMsYouSteppinOrWhat]

Truth! Incredibly classic album.

What you have as his Top 3?

rd/blueprint
- depending on my mood either is top 1

vol. 1
- shyt its times where this my favorite hov album…

 

[Awesome Wells]

rd/blueprint
- depending on my mood either is top 1

vol. 1
- shyt its times where this my favorite hov album…

Those are all in my Top 4 for him with TBA.

That 5th one is always tough, but it might be AG or the Dynasty album, for me.

 

[2ATMsYouSteppinOrWhat]

Those are all in my Top 4 for him with TBA.

That 5th one is always tough, but it might be AG or the Dynasty album, for me.

rd
blueprint
vol1
ag
vol2
black album
dynasty
4:44
vol3

everything else is mid

 

[Mac Ten]

Nah.

Vol. 1 is actually one of his Top 5 albums.

You wildin' with that take, bro, lol.

Im going off his ranking back when MCHG came out

 

[Awesome Wells]

rd
blueprint
vol1
ag
vol2
black album
dynasty
4:44
vol3

everything else is mid