Old Heads Messing Up The Mixtape Game

[LandryFieldsDad]

No. Mac miller could have nipped this in the bud quick..
He was playing little cat and mouse games..

 

[stealthbomber]

That's the thing, any hip hop head KNOWS that's a j dilla beat wiz went over and a finesse beat for mac...like come on man.


and i can't stress this enough, THIS IS NOT EVEN ABOUT GOING OVER OTHER RAPPERS BEATS. This will set a precedent for sample clearance for FREE tapes.

yeah but most people aren't heads. we're a select few breh.

 

[Dump Gawd]

lord finesse is a fakkit for that

smh at finesse suing mac miller for a song he didn't get cleared himself

 

[Plexxx]

my thing is...where were these suits 5...10 years ago...


oh now you want a piece of the pie?


mixtapes have been around for more than a decade. these nikkas KNOW how the game works. just because your moving towards broke....

 

[W.I.Z.E.]

No. Mac miller could have nipped this in the bud quick..
He was playing little cat and mouse games..

Exactly...Cube made Jacking for Beats years ago. Hell Das Efx took a Lord Finesse beat (Funky Technician) and killed it (They Want Efx).

Point is...people have been doing this for years, but isht got outta hand on mixtapes cuz ppl. got lazy.

There are HUNGRY and great producers right here on this site, why not reach out to them for mixtapes?

 

[Mask and Da Glock]

Once again it's NOT ABOUT RAPPING OVER OTHER PEOPLES BEATS MAN. It's sample clearance for a free tape. Those hungry producers can't supply sample based beats if they have to pay for sample clearance.

 

[Tuc2DaBoot]

I know folks ain't in here getting mad b/c they may not get as much free music anymore... I know y'all are not mad over something... free...

N'all.

 

[hustlemania]

my thing is...where were these suits 5...10 years ago...


oh now you want a piece of the pie?


mixtapes have been around for more than a decade. these nikkas KNOW how the game works. just because your moving towards broke....

same thing happened to Frank Ocean not too long ago, and yall cats wasn't all up in arms like this then..

in the end, theres still alot of mixtapes dropping.. yall acting like this the end of music, or something..

 

[Dump Gawd]

i've been a DITC stan forever

but how can anyone co-sign this shyt

you guys do realize finesse is the king of not getting samples cleared

 

[Peak]

lord finesse is a fakkit for that

smh at finesse suing mac miller for a song he didn't get cleared himself

They don't hear you though...

 

[Plexxx]

same thing happened to Frank Ocean not too long ago, and yall cats wasn't all up in arms like this then..

in the end, theres still alot of mixtapes dropping.. yall acting like this the end of music, or something..

i thought the frank ocean thing was dumb...but they were suing because frank was performing the song and making money off it.


this could fukk up a lot of mixtapes if everyone has to get sample clearance like they do for albums.

 

[LandryFieldsDad]

i've been a DITC stan forever

but how can anyone co-sign this shyt

you guys do realize finesse is the king of not getting samples cleared

When I first heard this I was smh at finesse

Research the case a little bit.
Mac could have dealt with this a LONG time ago

Mac miller was playing a lot of little kid games

 

[Pool_Shark]

-The suit was because miller was performing these songs in concert. your making money off their work and now you wanna be cute about it.

-Let them have their music. It will just force artist to be more creative and use original production. Samples aren't even needed anymore. They can afford instruments, studio, even to make your own music is easy as fukk nowadays. Not like before where they were forced to use old records.

 

[hustlemania]

i thought the frank ocean thing was dumb...but they were suing because frank was performing the song and making money off it.


this could fukk up a lot of mixtapes if everyone has to get sample clearance like they do for albums.

thats essentially, what the Finesse lawsuit is about..

 

[L&HH]

soo...these "old heads" should have ppl. profit off of them and they make nothing?

At least shout out the person who originally produced/composed the song. When rappers put on albums they have to that.

These guys keep trying to disregard this. They keep bringing up the fact that mixtapes are free and they dont make any money off of it. Thats bullshyt. If you getting paid 5-10k off show money there was something that led you to that point. Rappers arent rapping over acapellas. If I as a producer ripped vocals from other rappers and threw it over my beats and blew up off that and was performing those songs, Im sure rappers going want a lil kickback from that as well.

That's the thing, any hip hop head KNOWS that's a j dilla beat wiz went over and a finesse beat for mac...like come on man.


and i can't stress this enough, THIS IS NOT EVEN ABOUT GOING OVER OTHER RAPPERS BEATS. This will set a precedent for sample clearance for FREE tapes.

But the problem is "real hiphop heads" only make up a small percentage of these guys fanbases. Im willing to bet money that more people who listened to Mac Millers music thought that was an original beat than those who knew it was a LF beat used on another song. No fault f those people, Miller's fans are mostly young high school to college aged kids and didnt grow up listening to LF.

And you're righ about this setting a precedent. From a fans perspective I dont care how they do the music or whose getting paid, I just want the music. But from a moral perspective I feel they should get clearances for their mixtapes as well. Just because you get a clearance for a mixtape doesnt mean the artists has to shell out 1000s of dollars for it, its all in the negotiation.