Deep_Black_Conscious
Superstar
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“Older Single Men Die Alone” says OG on YT
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Diondon
Thanks to the lawyers uh, I marbled the foyer
Old men and old broads gon hook up in the nursing home for one last hurrah 
I feel a lot of what you say, but I urge caution with this perspective too.
I think the attitude that most people are shytty ironically comes from not socializing much. When you don’t get out and meet people, there are limitations on your social circles that tend to run negative. Especially if the online is the primary place for social interaction. I fear what people are going to be like in the metaverse.
Also, being introverted needs to be reclaimed. Introverted does not equal socially awkward. There are plenty of extroverts with social deficits. Act cringeworthy, awkward, can’t read a room, talk over people, grate on people’s nerves…ect.
Social deficits transcend intro/extroversion. Rather they speak to a person’s inability to feel comfortable in a social space, and maintain someone else’s comfort around you for long periods of time. If that skill eludes someone, even in a world of selfish, shytty individuals, they gotta be willing to self-reflect and troubleshoot themselves instead of retreating into a defensive fortress of solitude or hiding behind excuses like the whole world of people are horrible. Because for every nasty person you encounter, there are tons of regular, cool, funny people just trying to maintain and make it in life.
People with humble attitudes will make a introvert open up.. Introverts are just real careful about who they talk to, because once you get them going its hard to keep them silent..
BeBorn
Westside Chicago 32212
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“Older Single Men Die Alone”
Is this a trick? Of course single people die alone
Is this a trick? Of course single people die alone
feelosofer
#ninergang
The fact of the matter is if you don't have family connections you can very well die alone. I had a tenant, a 55 year old man die in his apartment, no body came for him until he started decomposinng through the floor boards.
Deep_Black_Conscious
Superstar
That's an assumption
The irony is their attitude could be directly from their experiences from socializing a lot and see right through people's bullshyt and manipulation
It may always eventually turn into some weird circle and hierarchy of fukkery because people can't help getting BORED with decency at some point. Another big thing is people tend to be followers. Which is fine. But they also like to tell you what to do and follow what they are doing and if you are not following what the circle is doing the circle is made to pressure you or devalue you. If a person is not a follower by nature that WILL be a problem. Okay in school everyone is young, lonely, self esteem issues don't want to be the person with no friends but as a grown ass person?
GTFOH you're just another person. Again a feeling of over self importance. I honestly think this is an extension of the public school system into adulthood people want to be popular and cool to feel special and important THAT's ALL it isThe smarter you are the easier it is to read character and pick up on people's manipulation, and the harder of a follower it is to be. Stupid love big groups because they get
to use the group for their will and hide their self esteem from their stupidity by focusing on people all day instead of ideas and projects.
The person may have socialized with MANY groups and the circles ran negative.
Most likely because people tried to place them in a hierarchy by assigning them a certain value and treating them based on the value they assigned them
People get upset if you assign them a value back ironically
Basically people think they know you better than you know yourself and based on that you will be treated the way they view you, your value, instead of treating you like a person
That's a form of disrespect not socialization
Their only leverage is the person being alone or the person being socially inept, which is subjective. That person might not give a fukk because why do they have to socialize with you? This describes the MAJORITY of social circles if we are being honest. Then why does that person need them? People are VERY overly self important and this is the average person with social media and wanting to climb the social climber adder, instead of enjoying the journey of life with people they meet and the energy they bring. It's always what do you do and what makes you important? I can roll some weed and have a deep discussion with someone and have a good time. Some people need fukkery and high school dynamics they never outgrow, and people who are grown might not want to deal with that bullshyt, even if they end up alone.
It also comes down to sex if we're being honest. Yes sex. Friends will throw friends under the bus for sex. People will dehumanize and belittle people for sex. People will stay in shytty social circles for sex because that social circle might be the best means of getting sex at the time. This is the real reason why people socialize even with people they should have long outgrown, they don't want to be a "lame" and depreciate their value and therefore their opportunity for sex. If you had 0 sex drive or attraction to others, would you have socialized with the majority of people you decided to socialize with? A lot of people wouldn't
This is why they assign value, against competition. At least this is what it is like for a lot of men and they get wiser as they older realizing people either see them as pawns or associates, especially other men who befriend them because they think they are one of the cool people opportunity to meet women for sex
Instead of treated others based on their energy and how they are treating them, people treat people based on the value they assign them no matter what the person's energy is or how they treat them. People like that tend to not even know how to have fun without using that fun as some form of stepping stone for their self esteem. Who needs that?
This is what is going on society right now and this is the average adult until they become lonely
being surrounded by people who also judge them based on their value. No one cares until their value drops.
The school system is inhibited value system socially that extends into early adulthood until people grow older and get humbled by life, and still engage in looking for people to treat like shyt despite knowing better
This describes the majority of people. They "read" you, put you in a box, and act accordingly instead of enjoying hanging out with other people and creating memories, even if they don't see those people again.
Not everyone is like this, as some people enjoy the characters and energy of others and actually appreciate the person's humanity and personality rather than focusing on their value
Once someone reaches the age when they realize they don't need people like that, which IS the average person, the person becomes more introverted because they realize they can break everyone down to pawn or associate because everyone is doing it to each other
You are socially inept or you are alone? Who cares and what makes that person's importance important enough for their opinion to matter?
COVID was the catalyst to make people finally sit down and ask themselves what people do they REALLY need to be around and what value do they have?
Why place a value on a human being? Because that's what people are following with all the social programming and we all do it even subconsciously. The point it has become OVEREMPHASIZED during BASIC social interactions.
If a social circle tends to run negative, then that supports why people stop trying to find joy from other people because people tend to act how they really want to act in groups, negative
Someone who is socially inept might not value themselves based on their social skills but on other things if they don't care if they are socially inept. As long as they are living the way they want outside of people.
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Nigerianwonder
Superstar
A lot of guys have bought into the silly idea that men's options always increase over time and they will be 50 and 60 years old smashing 25 year old dimes like idris elba or leonardo dicaprio. Whats really ends up happening is they become the creepy lame old dude at the club trying to buy all the girls drinks and getting curved. 20 year olds aint trying to get with 40+ year old dudes like that in general. There are exceptions for the top 10% but I'm talking about average guys.
The reality is the average mans options decrease with age just like women's... its just that financially and career wise men peak in their late 30 and early 40s. Physically though, both men and woman's peak is around their mid 20s. Lot of these dudes are looking flabby and sick by mid 30s with receding hairlines and guts and completely fall off by mid 40s.
Deep_Black_Conscious
Superstar
What kind of flabby ass nikkas you around?
A man who is finished by 30 physically was always going to be finished because they never took care of themselves
A man's prime starts at 25 leading into their 30s-40s+ DEPENDING on the man
If a man is DONE by their 30s it's because of genetics they can't control or not taking caring care of themselves
Charlie Sollers
All Star
I think a lot of you are taking the thread title and topic of the video too literally. Obviously if you are single, you will die alone. What you should be doing is trying your best to cultivate and maintain friendships/relationships throughout your life. Having social hobbies is important too IMO as that will put you in contact with other like minded people. It's so easy for people to fall out of friendships as they get older. Do you really want to be in your 50s and 60s not being in contact with anyone?
Deep_Black_Conscious
Superstar
A lot of people end up like this and did everything you described
Life does not care what you WANT or what you did. You cannot control what happens to you only how you react. Just because you do right things for a certain outcome doesn't mean you are going to get it. Yet people will shyt on you as if you were on a different path that somehow made you get where you are for people to judge. Whatever happens happens and someone ends up like that people assume they did it to themselves, but not always
You lost me. I feel like this is just a justification for stoicism and loneliness. Just choose what makes you happiest and if that’s being by yourself then have at it.That's an assumption
The irony is their attitude could be directly from their experiences from socializing a lot and see right through people's bullshyt and manipulation
It may always eventually turn into some weird circle and hierarchy of fukkery because people can't help getting BORED with decency at some point. Another big thing is people tend to be followers. Which is fine. But they also like to tell you what to do and follow what they are doing and if you are not following what the circle is doing the circle is made to pressure you or devalue you. If a person is not a follower by nature that WILL be a problem. Okay in school everyone is young, lonely, self esteem issues don't want to be the person with no friends but as a grown ass person?
The smarter you are the easier it is to read character and pick up on people's manipulation, and the harder of a follower it is to be. Stupid love big groups because they get
to use the group for their will and hide their self esteem from their stupidity by focusing on people all day instead of ideas and projects.
The person may have socialized with MANY groups and the circles ran negative.
Most likely because people tried to place them in a hierarchy by assigning them a certain value and treating them based on the value they assigned them
People get upset if you assign them a value back ironically
Basically people think they know you better than you know yourself and based on that you will be treated the way they view you, your value, instead of treating you like a person
That's a form of disrespect not socialization
Their only leverage is the person being alone or the person being socially inept, which is subjective. That person might not give a fukk because why do they have to socialize with you? This describes the MAJORITY of social circles if we are being honest. Then why does that person need them? People are VERY overly self important and this is the average person with social media and wanting to climb the social climber adder, instead of enjoying the journey of life with people they meet and the energy they bring. It's always what do you do and what makes you important? I can roll some weed and have a deep discussion with someone and have a good time. Some people need fukkery and high school dynamics they never outgrow, and people who are grown might not want to deal with that bullshyt, even if they end up alone.
It also comes down to sex if we're being honest. Yes sex. Friends will throw friends under the bus for sex. People will dehumanize and belittle people for sex. People will stay in shytty social circles for sex because that social circle might be the best means of getting sex at the time. This is the real reason why people socialize even with people they should have long outgrown, they don't want to be a "lame" and depreciate their value and therefore their opportunity for sex. If you had 0 sex drive or attraction to others, would you have socialized with the majority of people you decided to socialize with? A lot of people wouldn't
This is why they assign value, against competition. At least this is what it is like for a lot of men and they get wiser as they older realizing people either see them as pawns or associates, especially other men who befriend them because they think they are one of the cool people opportunity to meet women for sex
Instead of treated others based on their energy and how they are treating them, people treat people based on the value they assign them no matter what the person's energy is or how they treat them. People like that tend to not even know how to have fun without using that fun as some form of stepping stone for their self esteem. Who needs that?
This is what is going on society right now and this is the average adult until they become lonely
being surrounded by people who also judge them based on their value. No one cares until their value drops.
The school system is inhibited value system socially that extends into early adulthood until people grow older and get humbled by life, and still engage in looking for people to treat like shyt despite knowing better
This describes the majority of people. They "read" you, put you in a box, and act accordingly instead of enjoying hanging out with other people and creating memories, even if they don't see those people again.
Not everyone is like this, as some people enjoy the characters and energy of others and actually appreciate the person's humanity and personality rather than focusing on their value
Once someone reaches the age when they realize they don't need people like that, which IS the average person, the person becomes more introverted because they realize they can break everyone down to pawn or associate because everyone is doing it to each other
You are socially inept or you are alone? Who cares and what makes that person's importance important enough for their opinion to matter?
COVID was the catalyst to make people finally sit down and ask themselves what people do they REALLY need to be around and what value do they have?
Why place a value on a human being? Because that's what people are following with all the social programming and we all do it even subconsciously. The point it has become OVEREMPHASIZED during BASIC social interactions.
If a social circle tends to run negative, then that supports why people stop trying to find joy from other people because people tend to act how they really want to act in groups, negative
Someone who is socially inept might not value themselves based on their social skills but on other things if they don't care if they are socially inept. As long as they are living the way they want outside of people.
But humans are social creatures and need each other and are losing key social skills that enabled them to sustain long and meaningful relationships that built community and helped them in the past. The loss of these skills is tied to a lot of the depression and issues we see today.
Deep_Black_Conscious
Superstar
SubjectiveYou lost me. I feel like this is just a justification for stoicism and loneliness. Just choose what makes you happiest and if that’s being by yourself then have at it.
But humans are social creatures and need each other and are losing key social skills that enabled them to sustain long and meaningful relationships that built community and helped them in the past. The loss of these skills is tied to a lot of the depression and issues we see today.
Not a response to anything I said.
You missed my subjective points.
People do what's best for them. No one cares about what anyone else is doing beyond self esteem stepping. Everyone is a big kid to me THEY ARE STILL IN MIDDLE/HIGH SCHOOL. Look at me I have this therefore care what I think. I don't care unless I need to care. People care because they ARE CONDITIONED TO CARE TOO MUCH.
People CARE about what people think and the superficial value they place on them TOO MUCH. I have social media but I BARELY have anything on there. NO ONE is that important. Not even me. That's being humble means to me. That's what COVID showed and made people who are paying attention finally realize. I already knew this. People are just catching up. Meaning people are starting to value themselves and others beyond subjective things like social skills or subjective narcissistic things like popularity and needing to be around people.
I agree as humans WE ARE social beings. However, we only need to be around we people WE NEED as social beings. You only need 1 . 1 friend/s, 1 lover, 1 good family member. Some people are orphans and some people are simply by themselves. They have 0 family and therefore 0 real friends because a friend is subjective. Family is a constant subjective but not everyone's family is quality and their family DOOMS them from the start. They still have 1 though. The difference is mindset amongst people, and MANY people have WEAK mindsets that's why while most people can't even rely on themselves and BE ALONE WHEN NEEDED. That's counter-intuitive to many. That was my first subjective point.
I know how to think, which my determines MY happiness, not what you or others think, including social programming, that's why I did math. It TRANSCENDS ALL OF IT. I'm hope more people can do that to have self-defined happiness and think more abstractly, learning how to think again=reasoning. Thanks to public schools not even smart people(I assume you're smart anyone doing a PHD student is so you already know how to think if you're doing a PHD) know what to think vs. how to think even means that's why most people even the smartest people hate math, I don't. You know very well how self centered and overly people obsessed people are. That's a problem leading to self caused misery not poor social skills or values that are contextual. PEOPLE THEY ARE FOLLOWERS. I'm not. That's the point.
Too many people don't have skills beyond going to work and talking shyt about people behind their backs. THAT'S BORING and boring to be around personality wise to me. Who am I to say that maybe I'm boring? I don't care because I'm not a follower and someone could think I'm boring and someone else might not what is a thought beyond the effect I choose for it to have on me?
The less you care and the more you focus on WHAT YOUR INTUITON wants and not what your family, people, society(ran by psychopaths), and religions TELL YOU WHAT TO THINK, the HAPPIER you WILL be. Too many people are unhappy because they don't know how to be alone when needed requiring thinking for themselves, even involving the smartest people.
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