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Posting highlight clips of a player that averaged 5 points and 4 rebounds per game this season in 29 games played but wants yall to know that you have a problem with overrating players :mjgrin:.

This is a better single game performance than Robert Williams has had in his entire career.



:lolbron::lolbron::lolbron:

Williams is much more productive/impactful when he’s on the floor than Ntilikina see you using that box score tho :laff:

This is a better single game performance than Ntilikina has had in his career
 

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I'm not gassing anything I'm showing you statistics and video evidence. FACTS.

Williams being stronger is a fact, Williams having a 7'6 wingspan to Mitch's 7'4 wingspan is a fact, his 40 inch vertical is a fact, him being a better passer is a fact. He has more potential for a face up game as well.

They went in the same draft and Williams went higher go figure :mjlol:

If Robert Williams were a Knick all of you would love him :laff:


If anyone is gassing anything it's Knicks fans and their love for this replaceable foul prone rim runner

The sad thing is I actually like Mitch a lot but y'all take it too far

this is a dumb debate but touting Williams 2 inch advantage in wing span compared to a dude who is 4 inches taller than him is stupid...
 

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this is a dumb debate but touting Williams 2 inch advantage in wing span compared to a dude who is 4 inches taller than him is stupid...
I already told you less size makes him more agile.

The modern NBA prioritizes wingspan over height its been this way for awhile.

The point is Williams and Robinson are comparable prospects. And Mitchell Robinson is not fukking untradeable.

And it’s not a dumb debate actually. Because y’all are touting a rim runner as untradeable when these players are in nearly every draft. That was the point less so to compare the two but you nikkas objected because apparently Mitchell is too good :russ: to be compared to players like Hayes and Williams and apparently he’d start over Theis in Boston with his foul prone, non-floor stretching ass.
 

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:mjlol: y'all would love this motherfukker


Face it y'all rim runners aren't even as hot a commodity as they used to be (Houston traded Capela, Gobert is rocky in Utah), pretty much every couple draft classes has a high energy rim running big.

Now we getting rim runners with point forward skills like Bam :wow:

The only way Mitch is untradeable is if he had more offensive skills but y'all are banking on him developing ball skills when he can barely stay on the floor because of foul issues.

#8 and Mitchell is worth considering for the top pick because LaMelo and Edwards have high potential to completely change the franchise.

Your banking on Mitchell being a more dynamic defender than a traditional rim runner. Your banking that he’s more AD and Bam on defense than Rudy Gobert and Clapella. THATS what makes the Heat and Lakers truly special, that when you go small, they can still keep their bigs on the floor to protect the rim and still be able to adequately defend in space.
 

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I already told you less size makes him more agile.

The modern NBA prioritizes wingspan over height its been his way for awhile.

The point is Williams and Robinson are comparable prospects. And Mitchell Robinson is not fukking untradeable.
Fair.
 

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Your banking on Mitchell being a more dynamic defender than a traditional rim runner. Your banking that he’s more AD and Bam on defense than Rudy Gobert and Clapella. THATS what makes the Heat and Lakers truly special, that when you go small, they can still keep their bigs on the floor to protect the rim and still be able to adequately defend in space.
What separates Bam and AD, two guys who started as rim runners is their hidden guard like skillsets on offense. As it stands, Mitchell is not disciplined enough to guard the perimeter, he’s a great shot blocker of perimeter jumpers though. But offense matters and that’s where Bam and AD separate themselves.

The rim runner archetype is slowly losing its value. Montrezz might be out in LA, Houston traded Capela, Utah and Gobert are in a sticky situation.

This is an article before Nic Claxton and Jaxson Hayes were drafted.
www.medium.com/sportsraid/problem-with-jaxson-hayes-case-against-rim-runners-2019-nba-draft-basketball-strategy-nic-claxton-9412222e2bc1


Claxton at least has a bit of an outside shot or a developing one as does Mo Bamba. But the rim runners archetype is being re-evaluated by GM’s.

Let’s not overrate Mitch...
 

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I can see these arguments for Mitch not being untradeable...... but to trade him for Lamelo Ball is fukking ridiculous
It’s only ridiculous if you don’t believe in LaMelo’s potential.

I believe in him. The court vision and shot creating and size is real.
 

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I already told you less size makes him more agile.

The modern NBA prioritizes wingspan over height its been this way for awhile.

The point is Williams and Robinson are comparable prospects. And Mitchell Robinson is not fukking untradeable.

And it’s not a dumb debate actually. Because y’all are touting a rim runner as untradeable when these players are in nearly every draft. That was the point less so to compare the two but you nikkas objected because apparently Mitchell is too good :russ: to be compared to players like Hayes and Williams and apparently he’d start over Theis in Boston with his foul prone, non-floor stretching ass.

Mitch’s upside is directly tied to how well he moves on the floor. Stop it. THAT isn’t in every draft.
 
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