Older thread '20 NYK Off-season Thread

[Youhadasparkwhenustarted]

Knicks need to prioritize trading Morris for a pick and/or young players. Moneywise I could see Portland trading us their 1st tied to Bazemore for Marcus and filler. They need defensive Roleplayers more than just scoring.

I never thought trading Morris for a first would be a plausible idea, considering that he's a journeyman on a one year deal, but he's playing his ass off right now and Portland is desperate. As soon as December 15th comes they need to trade him, don't wait until he cools off.

 

[Bushman]

fukk my life.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

I’m at the gym right now and guess who walks in

Herb Williams

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Walked by his treadmill and said what’s up herb? Pointed to my knicks socks and said what’s up with our boys ? He gave me the

 

[RickyGQ]

 

[JMurder]

why was julius randle brought to the knicks as a 24 year player coming off a 21 and 8 season? what was the original idea behind signing him and giving him a extra year on his contract?

These are questions for the front office and good ones. But the questions I'm asking you are the questions that I have for the coach. The front office doesn't determine whether the players start or come off the bench...the coach does. The front office may lean on a coach to keep a player starting and if that's what they're doing to Fizdale, then they all need to go. But if it's Fizdale's call then it doesn't matter WHY he was brought to the Knicks. It only matters what is his role is and how best he can help the team.

Now coming into the season I had no problem starting Randle because I assumed that the way the roster was constructed, we would be an athletic, push the pace, high pick & roll usage team. That's obviously not the direction we're going in and simply for that reason, Randle should come off the bench. He's a player who can achieve good numbers, and he can achieve those numbers best as a pick & roll player...NOT as a guy you run at iso or begin plays with. We're legitimately using him in ways best to make sure he fails instead of succeed. That's why I asked you if you think we are developing him.

 

[JMurder]

im not a randle fan
but he was brought here to be developed by our clown front office
you cant simply quit on his development after 15 games

HE'S NOT BEING DEVELOPED!!!!!!!!! THEY'RE NOT EVEN PLAYING SCHEMES THAT WOULD PROMOTE THE BEST FEATURES OF HIS GAME!!! You can't blame the front office for that. The only thing you can blame them for is bringing him in. If we were developing Julius we would be starting Dennis and Mitch and becoming a high pick usage team instead of the shyt we see on the screen every night

 

[JMurder]

If you're the Knicks, do you resign Morris as your starting PF (short 1-2 year deal) if you can successfully trade Randle?

What does a "successful" Randle trade look like? I thank god that his stats aren't completely abysmal outside of his turnovers and field goal percentage because we can maybe trick another bad team into taking him for cap space

 

[JMurder]

Where the "Fiz is a good coach" guys at? After the loss, listening to two or three straight podcasts that echo my views so soundly that you would think that I got my talking points from them, and arguing with nikkas about last night's episode of The Watchmen, I'm ready to thump some heads

 

[seemorecizzy]

These are questions for the front office and good ones. But the questions I'm asking you are the questions that I have for the coach. The front office doesn't determine whether the players start or come off the bench...the coach does. The front office may lean on a coach to keep a player starting and if that's what they're doing to Fizdale, then they all need to go. But if it's Fizdale's call then it doesn't matter WHY he was brought to the Knicks. It only matters what is his role is and how best he can help the team.

Now coming into the season I had no problem starting Randle because I assumed that the way the roster was constructed, we would be an athletic, push the pace, high pick & roll usage team. That's obviously not the direction we're going in and simply for that reason, Randle should come off the bench. He's a player who can achieve good numbers, and he can achieve those numbers best as a pick & roll player...NOT as a guy you run at iso or begin plays with. We're legitimately using him in ways best to make sure he fails instead of succeed. That's why I asked you if you think we are developing him.

this is where i disagree
i strongly believe that mills and perry have a favourtism to certain players they sign in free agency and want them lookin good, so in turn, they look good.

especially in a year where mills assured dolan that the players we signed was a successful off season.

if fizz doesnt play them, it will play a factor in his employment. i mean, they threw him under the bus after 10 games.

how bad would it look if their "star" acqusition w Benched 15 games into da season? there's a lot more to this shyt

 

[seemorecizzy]

HE'S NOT BEING DEVELOPED!!!!!!!!! THEY'RE NOT EVEN PLAYING SCHEMES THAT WOULD PROMOTE THE BEST FEATURES OF HIS GAME!!! You can't blame the front office for that. The only thing you can blame them for is bringing him in. If we were developing Julius we would be starting Dennis and Mitch and becoming a high pick usage team instead of the shyt we see on the screen every night

mitch is gonna start eventually
u said over and over again that we start frank over dennis smith, now smith should be starting

 

[tremonthustler1]

HE'S NOT BEING DEVELOPED!!!!!!!!! THEY'RE NOT EVEN PLAYING SCHEMES THAT WOULD PROMOTE THE BEST FEATURES OF HIS GAME!!!!

I’ve never seen you this pissed about any Knick ever

 

[seemorecizzy]

Where the "Fiz is a good coach" guys at? After the loss, listening to two or three straight podcasts that echo my views so soundly that you would think that I got my talking points from them, and arguing with nikkas about last night's episode of The Watchmen, I'm ready to thump some heads

the team sucks.
hopefully in a few weeks you will realize that and stop trying to finger point.
this just isnt a good team.
if you wanna talk bad coachin, you have to look at talented teams that are underperforming. not trash teams that are playing like..trash.

portland has da talent and they are trash.
nets are underperforming with their so called great coach that u keep praising.

spurs lost 8 straight games before playing us..im sure theres some coaching improvements dat even da great popovich could make.

no coach is perfect in this league. they all mess up. when you have talent you can sometimes win anyway. it is what it is

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

These are questions for the front office and good ones. But the questions I'm asking you are the questions that I have for the coach. The front office doesn't determine whether the players start or come off the bench...the coach does. The front office may lean on a coach to keep a player starting and if that's what they're doing to Fizdale, then they all need to go. But if it's Fizdale's call then it doesn't matter WHY he was brought to the Knicks. It only matters what is his role is and how best he can help the team.

Now coming into the season I had no problem starting Randle because I assumed that the way the roster was constructed, we would be an athletic, push the pace, high pick & roll usage team. That's obviously not the direction we're going in and simply for that reason, Randle should come off the bench. He's a player who can achieve good numbers, and he can achieve those numbers best as a pick & roll player...NOT as a guy you run at iso or begin plays with. We're legitimately using him in ways best to make sure he fails instead of succeed. That's why I asked you if you think we are developing him.

I think our front office has a lot to with what happens. The questionable decisions they’ve been making since we had the Knickstape. Trading for Andrea bargnani , giving melo the contract with the no trade clause , giving Hardaway that contract, trading away porzingis( don’t know the situation behind this though)

 

[JMurder]

mitch is gonna start eventually
u said over and over again that we start frank over dennis smith, now smith should be starting

I never said Smith should be starting. Keep up. I said if we are developing Randle, then the offense we're currently running doesn't work. In order to develop Randle, we'd need a pick and roll heavy offense which Dennis Smith Jr has shown to be better at operating than Frank so he would need to start. Mitch would also start because he would also be a viable pick and roll threat although this is not as important because Taj Gibson actually is a pick and pop threat so you could keep him in the starting roll. But if you're gonna run pick and roll heavy schemes why wouldn't you start your best roll man. THAT's what I'm saying.

I don't even think you know what development would even mean. I think you just think development means throwing guys out there and hoping their skills grow. No negro, if you're developing players you put them in a position to succeed and either use schemes that hide or develop the worst parts of their games. This current offense does absolutely nothing to develop Julius one iota. That's how I know for a fact we're not playing him to develop him...we're playing him to be the star/our best player.