Older thread '20 NYK Off-season Thread

[JMurder]

that’s not true tho. If the edict from the FO is we need to increase the value of these guys to make a trade, or “we signed these guys and promised them they’d start” then Fizdale’s hands are tied. Again, still not a good coach. Also, talent doesn’t equal chemistry.

The edict for (and I'm sure to) the front office is to be an improved team to last year. I'm sure more important to Steve Mills than making Julius Randle look good is having the team look good. The team is supposed to have an improved record based on what has been said... And they have never cited that it would be solely because of one signing

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

I’m not falling for this again. They’re gonna blame us for when it doesn’t happen.

Yea fukkin right

 

[Miles Davis]

I’m not falling for this again. They’re gonna blame us for when it doesn’t happen.

They starting early this season huh

 

[Wargames]

I’m not falling for this again. They’re gonna blame us for when it doesn’t happen.

I don’t believe it..... fukk them. If anything they are probably tampering with RJ in some way

 

[seemorecizzy]

I can make the argument that it is.

While also being the worst free throw shooting team (which it appears you are calling an aberration), the Knicks are also have the worst offensive rating, assist/to ratio, and second worst assist percentage. I suppose you can argue that's not on the coach either


No one said it was.


What is the point of even having a coach to you. Knicks might as well run out there and do whatever they want the way you're talking.

Yes, it's primarily Mitch's responsibility to figure out his foul woes. But it's the coaches job to assist and develop his young players into becoming better players. It's also the coaches job to recognize whether a player will figure it out or not. I haven't seen any indication that Fizdale is capable of that.

I can make the argument that it is.

While also being the worst free throw shooting team (which it appears you are calling an aberration), the Knicks are also have the worst offensive rating, assist/to ratio, and second worst assist percentage. I suppose you can argue that's not on the coach either


No one said it was.


What is the point of even having a coach to you. Knicks might as well run out there and do whatever they want the way you're talking.

Yes, it's primarily Mitch's responsibility to figure out his foul woes. But it's the coaches job to assist and develop his young players into becoming better players. It's also the coaches job to recognize whether a player will figure it out or not. I haven't seen any indication that Fizdale is capable of that.

explain to me why its the coach's responsibility for professional basketball players to hit their front throws? i can't wait to here this one.

we our last in those offensive stats (for the last time) because we do not have any playmakers or a point guard that can run the offense. im 100 percent sure the remaining top 5 worse are also lacking a point guard who can run an offense or a star player.

if you put ricky rubio on this team with everything else being the same, we would not be last in anything.

you want coaches to be miracle workers, you place no accountability on these guys to make self improvement to their own games. This gotta be the new generation of basketball, the "dont double team me in practice" devin booker era of ball lol. everything is someone else's fault

 

[JMurder]

Considering not watching this game...RJ and Mitch are playing right?

 

[JMurder]

if you put ricky rubio on this team with everything else being the same, we would not be last in anything.

Yeah, I'm out

 

[seemorecizzy]

Yeah, I'm out

for da best

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

RJ: It's a testament to his upside that RJ Barrett can make a 4/13 performance a positive impact, quality contribution anyway. Barrett pulled this off by constantly attacking and getting to the free throw line. So over 35 minutes, the rookie pumped in 16 points, 7 boards, a steal and block on 4/13 from the field, 0/2 from three but also 8/13 from the free throw line. And yes, the free throw shooting is still worrisome, but his ability to get there is really promising regardless.

Barrett getting into the teeth of a defense creates openings for everyone. His misses inside are offensive rebound opportunities because so many defenders are out of place, collapsing to help stop a 19 year old rookie with crazy strength for his age. Barrett also locked in defensively on multiple occasions and contributed seven boards including some important ones. The guards gave up a lot of long offensive boards, RJ was the one perimeter guy really getting after those necessary rebounds.

This is why I believe Barrett's floor is all star and full potential is a two way do it all superstar
People don't see him dunking on anybody but that's because he still needs to get stronger and his body is still developing
Which is crazy because he already has elite strength for a rookie
If he gets stronger which he surely will, it will be hard to stop him when he drives to the basket w/out fouling him, letting him finish, or letting him dunk on you which leads to my next point
Barrett is already figuring out how to draws fouls at a higher and higher rate
His ability to get to the rim along w/ an elite strength that will only increase will allow him to draw a lot of fouls, forcing other teams to put multiple defenders on him to stop him, collapsing their entire defense and creating opportunities for everyone else
That's why it's absolutely imperative the Knicks provide Barrett w/ better spacing as soon as possible so he can operate
Once he gets a consistent and not streaky midrange jumper, becomes a 70+% ft shooter, becomes a better than average 3 point shooter, and this team gets better spacing around him, I think he can become a two way superstar who can rebound, pass, and score
He has the work ethic and IQ to do it

 

[qnsfinest]

Other than money (which is huge) I don’t see any reason why Masai would even entertain the thought of coming here.

Does he have ties to the city or the organization that I’m not aware of?

The Raptors are a top 5 team in the league and that’s without a legit superstar, add Giannis to that team and they winning 2-3 in a 5yr span.

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

Other than money (which is huge) I don’t see any reason why Masai would even entertain the thought of coming here.

Does he have ties to the city or the organization that I’m not aware of?

The Raptors are a top 5 team in the league and that’s without a legit superstar, add Giannis to that team and they winning 2-3 in a 5yr span.

Only reason that I've seen being thrown around is NY giving him a bigger platform for his outside of basketball operations
If NY gets Masai then Dolan must give him full autonomy, and Knicks must clean house in terms anyone left over from the Isiah era
That's the only option and Masai has all the leverage

 

[ikbm]

this will be an obliteration

 

[ikbm]

giannis plays how julius thinks he plays in his head

dude is garbage. I'll be so happy when he's gone

 

[storyteller]

This is why I believe Barrett's floor is all star and full potential is a two way do it all superstar
People don't see him dunking on anybody but that's because he still needs to get stronger and his body is still developing
Which is crazy because he already has elite strength for a rookie
If he gets stronger which he surely will, it will be hard to stop him when he drives to the basket w/out fouling him, letting him finish, or letting him dunk on you which leads to my next point
Barrett is already figuring out how to draws fouls at a higher and higher rate
His ability to get to the rim along w/ an elite strength that will only increase will allow him to draw a lot of fouls, forcing other teams to put multiple defenders on him to stop him, collapsing their entire defense and creating opportunities for everyone else
That's why it's absolutely imperative the Knicks provide Barrett w/ better spacing as soon as possible so he can operate
Once he gets a consistent and not streaky midrange jumper, becomes a 70+% ft shooter, becomes a better than average 3 point shooter, and this team gets better spacing around him, I think he can become a two way superstar who can rebound, pass, and score
He has the work ethic and IQ to do it

The beauty of it all is that we can see where his improvements as a scorer will come out the gate. Free throw shooting is bound to improve, the jumper isn't broken. Everything should open up from there. Honestly, we could give him some nicely spaced line-ups even now but it'd take certain guys losing minutes that I don't think Fizdale is able to bench. A two way superstar can can lead the team in three categories on any given night is definitely a potential outcome. Hopefully we do a better job of building a roster that compliments his game than we did for Knox and Mitch this past offseason. He's the better option to build for anyway, so it can work out.

 

[storyteller]

If you want to see the little things that impact a defense, watch the first three scoring plays from the Bucks (up through RoLo getting free throws). Bledsoe's three, Mathew's drive and RoLo's free throws all came from a player making a soft rotation and being just one step out of place to challenge the ball handler. The worst part is it was with three different players. DSJ first then Randle and then Knox next.

I watch this ugly shyt twice most times, rewinding to watch for what's going on...that won't last with how bad this one started. I'ma need a breather, yuck!