Older thread '20 NYK Off-season Thread

[Frump]

I wonder if marc jackson would be able to turn this franchise around....

I'm sorry but fizdale may not be it....

or Possibly target Tyron Lue in the offseason.

Nobody can turn this franchise around until they start getting elite talent. No coach can turn sh1t to gold.

Jackson isn’t a bad coach but I think he’s pretty much blacklisted because of how religious he is and him basically trying to force the team into religion

 

[JMurder]

Nobody can turn this franchise around until they start getting elite talent. No coach can turn sh1t to gold.

Jackson isn’t a bad coach but I think he’s pretty much blacklisted because of how religious he is and him basically trying to force the team into religion

You don't need elite talent to be an average team. That was the only goal this year...to be better than shyt. Knicks weren't expected to be some tough playoff team...they just needed to win more games. We got more talent...it shouldn't be that difficult

 

[Frump]

You don't need elite talent to be an average team. That was the only goal this year...to be better than shyt. Knicks weren't expected to be some tough playoff team...they just needed to win more games. We got more talent...it shouldn't be that difficult

I don’t want to be average I’d rather high picks for the next few years.

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

That Bargnani move fukking killed us

Every time a guard comes on and has a semi-good game you say they "already look like the Knicks best PG." Frank is the Knicks best pg because of his defense, his lack of turnovers, and his passing ability until somebody proves otherwise. Kadeem hasn't even really shown out in G League when he was out there. I think he should be in the rotation if DSJR is terrible or Payton is hurt...but that's it

Yeah but I liked what I saw from Allen
He looked like a PG running an actual offense and his defense looked good
Frank tends to run to the corner and defer to Morris and Randle or is aggressive one game and is passive the next

 

[JMurder]

I don’t want to be average I’d rather high picks for the next few years.

I would also but having high picks don't matter unless you know you have a competent organization, and the ability to predict and achieve average is a good indicator off having one. You want high draft picks with Phil Jackson, Steve Mills or Scott Perry running the show...with Fizdale as coach??

 

[JMurder]

Yeah but I liked what I saw from Allen
He looked like a PG running an actual offense and his defense looked good
Frank tends to run to the corner and defer to Morris and Randle or is aggressive one game and is passive the next

I've seen Dennis do the same thing so I'm unsure if that is a function of the offense. Frank has shown the ability to run an offense...we just need to give him an offense to run

 

[Frump]

I would also but having high picks don't matter unless you know you have a competent organization, and the ability to predict and achieve average is a good indicator off having one. You want high draft picks with Phil Jackson, Steve Mills or Scott Perry running the show...with Fizdale as coach??

No that’s why I want everyone gone. but we’re gonna suck even if you bring in Greg Popovich. the roster isn’t good.

 

[JMurder]

No that’s why I want everyone gone. but we’re gonna suck even if you bring in Greg Popovich. the roster isn’t good.

It's not terrible either

 

[Peter Popoff]

No that’s why I want everyone gone. but we’re gonna suck even if you bring in Greg Popovich. the roster isn’t good.

I'd drop everyone but RJ and Knox. There is potential there.

Oh and Dotson.

 

[JMurder]

I'd drop everyone but RJ and Knox. There is potential there.

Oh and Dotson.

You're forgetting two

 

[Peter Popoff]

You're forgetting two

If I had to keep only 2 or 3 players and do a complete rebuild, those would be the only players. Maybe I'll swap Dotson for Frank though, I dunno. I appreciate Mitch but there's gonna be a ton of talented big men.

 

[Peter Popoff]

Also, 2 things:

1. We need an all star by December 15th, preferably a point guard. Trade anyone but Knox and RJ for that and give them the bag.
   
2. We need to get rid of Mills, keep Perry and fire Fizdale.

It won't happen but that's my opinion.

 

[Frump]

I'd drop everyone but RJ and Knox. There is potential there.

Oh and Dotson.

Knox is blah to me. Maybe a decent rotation player in the future.

Barrett can be a Derozan type if he reaches his ceiling

 

[JMurder]

If I had to keep only 2 or 3 players and do a complete rebuild, those would be the only players. Maybe I'll swap Dotson for Frank though, I dunno. I appreciate Mitch but there's gonna be a ton of talented big men.

If you have to choose between Dotson and Frank, you absolutely take Frank no questions asked. That's not a choice we have to make though. I think they are both capable rotation players on any team if healthy.

The fact you have Knox ahead of both confidently is borderline retarded

 

[ISO]

The fact you have Knox ahead of both confidently is borderline retarded

Dotson is already turning 26

There’s guys like Dotson right now in the NCAA and overseas who can easily be picked up

That’s just facts and I’m not even that big on Knox right now