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Your post is biased you have an agenda

When Miller doesn’t play Frank it’s well he wants to save his job. When Fiz doesn’t play Frank it’s mind boggling.

Emmanuel Mudiay and Trey Burke are better than Frank. Frank sucks. No coach has empowered and coddled Frank more than Fiz did.

Frank just ain’t it.
 

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Your post is biased you have an agenda

When Miller doesn’t play Frank it’s well he wants to save his job. When Fiz doesn’t play Frank it’s mind boggling.

Emmanuel Mudiay and Trey Burke are better than Frank. Frank sucks. No coach has empowered and coddled Frank more than Fiz did.

Frank just ain’t it.
So you're just gonna skip over the part where I said "playing guys who weren't gonna be with us" huh? Yes, it's mind-boggling to play point guards who have no future with the organization in a development year that you're tanking. Playing Emmanuel Mudiay significant minutes did what for us? Playing Trey Burke and then trading him did what for us? Unless they traded Frank, which they still haven't, all last season was a waste. We could have used that whole season to try and develop Frank into a better version of himself. Other teams do the same thing for the same types of players. The Knicks are the only organization I've ever seen that draft guys, don't develop them, and then trade them for nothing. We just saw an example of an organization develop second round and undrafted guys and turn them into serviceable and starting players. I'm sure at one point they were all trash. The Knicks need to figure out how to be THAT team instead of the one that you keep encouraging them to be.

And You saying I have an agenda is also false. I said numerous times in that same quote that I'm still mad, that I disagree with it, and that I think he's making a mistake. I'm giving him a slight break but not a complete one. It's funny how you guys like to bring up context when it's convenient for you, but forget to bring it up when you're making your own points.

I'll do my write up of Mike Miller's coaching after he's coached ten games
 

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all da excuses in da world for miller
cant even hide the agenda

I haven’t caped for Miller

The roster sucks..... it sucked for Fiz too. I’ve said that before.

I’ve also consistently said Randle doesn’t suck he just can’t play on a roster with no shooters that will scare teams to no double him.

He would have only made sense in NY next to a player like KP who would have forced opposing centers out the paint and given Randle space. Once KP pussed out I don’t think the FO came to terms with what they had as a team.

The make up of the roster is bad. I feel like this team is the Eddy Curry/Zbo team mismatch, but we have picks and these contracts are short as hell.
 

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Your post is biased you have an agenda

When Miller doesn’t play Frank it’s well he wants to save his job. When Fiz doesn’t play Frank it’s mind boggling.

Emmanuel Mudiay and Trey Burke are better than Frank. Frank sucks. No coach has empowered and coddled Frank more than Fiz did.

Frank just ain’t it.
4 coaches for frank in 4 years
all of them hated him and wanted him to fail.
 

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Iso Zo a bucket, Frank plays scared majority of the time. Knicks don't have their point guard of the future on the roster. Cause Frank (nor DSJ) are it right now :manny:
Funny how every team besides the Knicks either sign or develop their point guard of the future and the Knicks (and the fans) find it difficult to commit to either one.

I don't disagree with you...I just have an issue with the Knicks not committing to a plan. They tanked last year, but didn't want to commit to developing the youth they had on the roster. Then a year after tanking, they decide that they want to win more games while developing the youth... Then bring in vets that stunt development. It's just poor decision-making all around

As far as Frank goes, we all stated that he's a project and he's gotta learn the toughest position in the NBA to play. Since he's been here, he has already figured out the hardest thing to figure out in the NBA as a young player... Defense. I find it hard to give up on a player who can do great things on a side of the court that players either get or don't. It's easier to change someone's offensive game than their defensive game. I can see Frank figuring out the offense eventually. I don't have that same faith in Trier. But I guess I should be happy that they're working on one of them
 
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