Older thread '20 NYK Off-season Thread

[Miles Davis]

I hate to say this guys but RJ needs to be a backup guard behind Bullock or Dotson temporarily. Also Frank needs to start. Either way, if we get Knox and Barrett going, I think the roster will be competent. I wanna see both of them play well with Robinson even if Barrett doesn't become a sniper but Knox does. Frankie will be straight or he's well on his way.

I’d rather keep Frank with young players. I feel they tend to pass more and he’d at least get some looks, plus it allows for them to build chemistry.

 

[Typical Knicks Fan]

I don’t want RJ coming off the bench for anyone on this roster. I’m keeping the same energy with our young guys. Start them and let them figure it out.

Frank, RJ and and Mitch need to start. Knox needs more touches. I never liked the pick and wanted Porter when he fell to us but that’s in the past.

 

[ISO]

I never liked the pick and wanted Porter when he fell to us but that’s in the past.

Miles Bridges is also better.

 

[JMurder]

Knicks best success was when Mills was gone
They were over .500 with him gone
They have only had losing seasons with Mills
So yes Mills has that much negative influence
Dolan has shown he is willing to step back if he believes he has someone who he thinks knows what they are doing e.g. Phil
But like I said Mills has to go
If Mills is still involved in basketball operations past this season, the Knicks WILL suck

You're making narratives fit based on coincidences. There's no evidence Steve Mills had any input in basketball decisions that affected personnel or assets in the Knicks organization during his first stint from 2003-2009. During that time period we had Layden, Zeke, and Donnie Walsh. Donnie Walsh was basically in the middle of improving the Knicks when Mills left. Glen Grunwald fukked the team up trading for Andrea Bargnani before Mills came back. Meanwhile, you're telling me if the Knicks get wins from developing their young pieces, the Knicks will suck because Mills is there


It makes no sense.

 

[JMurder]

RJ. I knew RJ was when a little kid hooping at my old high school


bu bu but "who is we"

nikka you're a Lakers fan in a Knicks thread

 

[ISO]

nikka you're a Lakers fan in a Knicks thread

This nikka has a vested interest in our squad

Frank is Rwandan

Julius Randle is former LWO

R.J. is Canadian

He'll be here all season

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

He was 14. He was nice but my physicality and strength was too much for him. Just kept backing him up in the post.

Brag about bullying 14 year olds brehs

I think I’d be a good idea to bring RJ off the bench and give him some time with other youngins and some spacing on the floor. Either run the offense through him or play him at the 3 with Knox at 4

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

You're making narratives fit based on coincidences. There's no evidence Steve Mills had any input in basketball decisions that affected personnel or assets in the Knicks organization during his first stint from 2003-2009. During that time period we had Layden, Zeke, and Donnie Walsh. Donnie Walsh was basically in the middle of improving the Knicks when Mills left. Glen Grunwald fukked the team up trading for Andrea Bargnani before Mills came back. Meanwhile, you're telling me if the Knicks get wins from developing their young pieces, the Knicks will suck because Mills is there


It makes no sense.

Yes because he will make sure the roster is poorly constructed
It's not the young pieces its the pieces around the young pieces

 

[23Barrettcity]

Brag about bullying 14 year olds brehs

I think I’d be a good idea to bring RJ off the bench and give him some time with other youngins and some spacing on the floor. Either run the offense through him or play him at the 3 with Knox at 4

Might break his confidence

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Might break his confidence

Randle handles already broke his confidence

 

[JMurder]

Yes because he will make sure the roster is constructed poorly
It's not the young pieces its the pieces around the young pieces

The point I'm making is, in this make believe scenario where the Knicks win many games because they have a coach that uses them right, it kind of proves the point that they got some of the right pieces and Mills ain't as bad as we make him out to be. Should he still go? Absolutely, because no matter what he hired Fizdale and whatever was communicated about how the team was to be run, didn't translate to the court. So if anything he should've been fired and replaced earlier if that were the case...not after he dug a 18 game hole. For that reason (as well as hiring vets that would require big minutes that don't foster development) he should be fired. But if we're talking roster construction, the results would have to bear out in Miller's inability to produce wins. You can't have a ton of wins and still say the GM constructed a shytty roster. Particularly when there are slim options and shyttier options were passed on (or passed on us thank God)

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

The point I'm making is, in this make believe scenario where the Knicks win many games because they have a coach that uses them right, it kind of proves the point that they got some of the right pieces and Mills ain't as bad as we make him out to be. Should he still go? Absolutely, because no matter what he hired Fizdale and whatever was communicated about how the team was to be run, didn't translate to the court. So if anything he should've been fired and replaced earlier if that were the case...not after he dug a 18 game hole. For that reason (as well as hiring vets that would require big minutes that don't foster development) he should be fired. But if we're talking roster construction, the results would have to bear out in Miller's inability to produce wins. You can't have a ton of wins and still say the GM constructed a shytty roster. Particularly when there are slim options and shyttier options were passed on (or passed on us thank God)

This team ain't winning much the rest of the season as currently constructed
Some of you have been disillusioned by this winning streak against bad teams
As bad as Fiz was, he exposed how truly bad this roster is in terms of fit
As okay as Miller has been he still struggles with figuring out how to get around the poor spacing, selfish vets, dumb low IQ players, and of course, Randle Handle
Mills doesn't put players and coaches in positions to succeed
He and Perry (who should get fired too with this vet nonsense) thought this roster was a playoff team
They should be fired for their thinking process alone
They have to be fired because that means this is the best they can do
I'm telling you, Mills is and will always be a problem
It's not a question of whether Mills is that bad as Fiz really made everyone look like shyt
That I agree with you as enough talent, player development, and good coaching may overpower Mills
I could be wrong about Mills
But that's being overly optimistic when it comes to Mills because it's a question of when Mills inevitably finds a way to fukk it up
If he is not involved in basketball decisions he can hang around MSG all he likes

 

[JMurder]

This team ain't winning much the rest of the season as currently constructed
Some of you have been disillusioned by this winning streak against bad teams
As bad as Fiz was, he exposed how truly bad this roster is in terms of fit
As okay as Miller has been he still struggles with figuring out how to get around the poor spacing, selfish vets, dumb low IQ players, and of course, Randle Handle
Mills doesn't put players and coaches in positions to succeed
He and Perry (who should get fired too with this vet nonsense) thought this roster was a playoff team
They should be fired for their thinking process alone
They have to be fired because that means this is the best they can do
I'm telling you, Mills is and will always be a problem
It's not a question of whether Mills is that bad as Fiz really made everyone look like shyt
That I agree with you as enough talent, player development, and good coaching may overpower Mills
I could be wrong about Mills
But that's being overly optimistic when it comes to Mills because it's a question of when Mills inevitably finds a way to fukk it up
If he is not involved in basketball decisions he can hang around MSG all he likes

You're investing too much into making me out to be some disillusioned fan for a post where I start off saying "in this make-believe scenario."

And the point you keep skipping over is that the requirements for the Knicks to sustain winning is to prove all your points wrong. So in the scenario your points are wrong, then you have no points to make the argument. We ALL agree with your points about this season. I'm not sure who you are trying to convince

Edit: Also, I'm not sure Fiz proved this team was poor in terms of fit. When you use multiple players wrong in different ways, they're not going to fit together. There are multiple stats that prove some of Fiz's worst rotations are now good under Miller

 

[seemorecizzy]

The point I'm making is, in this make believe scenario where the Knicks win many games because they have a coach that uses them right, it kind of proves the point that they got some of the right pieces and Mills ain't as bad as we make him out to be. Should he still go? Absolutely, because no matter what he hired Fizdale and whatever was communicated about how the team was to be run, didn't translate to the court. So if anything he should've been fired and replaced earlier if that were the case...not after he dug a 18 game hole. For that reason (as well as hiring vets that would require big minutes that don't foster development) he should be fired. But if we're talking roster construction, the results would have to bear out in Miller's inability to produce wins. You can't have a ton of wins and still say the GM constructed a shytty roster. Particularly when there are slim options and shyttier options were passed on (or passed on us thank God)

defending steve mills yet again

 

[JMurder]

defending steve mills yet again

Another nikka who can't read