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Frank has been put in position time and time again. He just isn’t good I don’t know what it’s going to take for y’all to realize that.

What exactly has been mishandled about Kevin Knox? A chucking, defensive liability like him may not have even played big minutes last season on a team like Boston, certainly not in front of Jayson Tatum, Gordon Hayward, and Jaylen Brown.

And y’all still going on about this DeAndre B.S.? :shaq2:

When has he been put in the position to succeed?

outside of his 1st year, which he showed flashes of his potential. The next year, a new regime came in, and tried moving him to SF. :gucci:

On top of that, brings in 2 other PG to basically take your spot, mind you dude is a Foreign born 20 yr old player. You call that being put in a position to succeed?

DSJ is a shoot-first PG. Knicks have 2 black holes in the starting line-up (Morris.Randle). I’m not a fan of DSJ, but he’s not being coached to succeed. If he’s not pushing the tempo and creating off the break, he’s useless.

I think FIz sets are garbage, but it’s a lot of new pieces, and it’s early so we’ll see. (He stole and flipped this lil zig-zag screen set on the top of the key from GSW, that I’ve seen run. I thought that was a dope one) But within them sets, as long as you’re not correcting Randle and Morris about holding the ball in the block damn near every time, you take away DSJ effectiveness.

Payton, will get you into your sets, and he plays decent defense. I don’t mind him playing. But you have a 21 yr old on the bench who can be developed into something way better, let him play through his mistakes, and be coached to be aggressive and attack. He’s already shown he can potentially be elite on the defensive side.

You can even play him of the ball and his skill set would still fit better with a starting line-up of (RJ.Randle.Morris) let RJ bring the ball up, like they’ve been doing.

Knox has played well, I’ve been just as impressed with him as I have of RJ. On a team full of Shoot-1st players, I was worried he wasn’t going to be aggressive and look for his shot. Him coming in and shooting is exactly what we want. RJ.Knox. And Mitch are the cornerstones of the Franchise future.

Fiz doesn’t run not one play-call for that young boy to feel empowered on that court, even after you see him get a shot go in, and he’s still trying to be aggressive coming off back screens.

Fiz is reminding me of Mike Woodson. When the Knicks actually ran Mike Woodson offense (GSW stole a lot of his sets on the low, which he basically just flipped a lot of Dantoni shyt) that 54 win Knick team set a lot of trends with that offense in the league. Mike just coddled Melo a lil too much and pick and chose who he wanted to be tough on.

Fiz kinda the same way. You can’t preach ball movement is all we’ve been working on, and the 1st 3 games been the exact opposite. Plus it’s obvious who the culprits are, on top of that you’re empowering it by letting the offense go through them consistently. At least Mike ran an elite offense. :hubie:
 

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Let’s change the subject a bit. I was thinking that maybe they should move marcus Morris to the 4 randle to the bench Knox to the three. That’ll space the floor a bit more. I feel like playing randle and Morris at the same time is redundant. Morris is better defensively and has a better shot:manny:

Mitch/Morris/Knox/RJ/Payton
Bench- Taj/ Randle/Ellington/Trier/ Frank

that’s defense in the interior on both lineups
Shooters in both lineups
A defensive wing player.
Give Dotson some burn for extra defense and let’s see what iggy could do too.

Can we talk about RJs minutes though? He’s played 30+ minutes each game and I’m worried about him getting burned out. Just a thought.
 

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Let’s change the subject a bit. I was thinking that maybe they should move marcus Morris to the 4 randle to the bench Knox to the three. That’ll space the floor a bit more. I feel like playing randle and Morris at the same time is redundant. Morris is better defensively and has a better shot:manny:

Mitch/Morris/Knox/RJ/Payton
Bench- Taj/ Randle/Ellington/Trier/ Frank

that’s defense in the interior on both lineups
Shooters in both lineups
A defensive wing player.
Give Dotson some burn for extra defense and let’s see what iggy could do too.

Can we talk about RJs minutes though? He’s played 30+ minutes each game and I’m worried about him getting burned out. Just a thought.

Fiz is a would never bench Randle because Mills and Perry wouldn’t allow it. Rookies and young players would be benched to teach them a lesson and make them earn minutes but not Randle or any player Mills signed.

Enes Kanter got pulled quick and he was a double double machine and a turnstile on defense like Portis and Randle.
 

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I've been asking this for months:mjcry:
Portis should sit
When has he been put in the position to succeed?

outside of his 1st year, which he showed flashes of his potential. The next year, a new regime came in, and tried moving him to SF. :gucci:

On top of that, brings in 2 other PG to basically take your spot, mind you dude is a Foreign born 20 yr old player. You call that being put in a position to succeed?

DSJ is a shoot-first PG. Knicks have 2 black holes in the starting line-up (Morris.Randle). I’m not a fan of DSJ, but he’s not being coached to succeed. If he’s not pushing the tempo and creating off the break, he’s useless.

I think FIz sets are garbage, but it’s a lot of new pieces, and it’s early so we’ll see. (He stole and flipped this lil zig-zag screen set on the top of the key from GSW, that I’ve seen run. I thought that was a dope one) But within them sets, as long as you’re not correcting Randle and Morris about holding the ball in the block damn near every time, you take away DSJ effectiveness.

Payton, will get you into your sets, and he plays decent defense. I don’t mind him playing. But you have a 21 yr old on the bench who can be developed into something way better, let him play through his mistakes, and be coached to be aggressive and attack. He’s already shown he can potentially be elite on the defensive side.

You can even play him of the ball and his skill set would still fit better with a starting line-up of (RJ.Randle.Morris) let RJ bring the ball up, like they’ve been doing.

Knox has played well, I’ve been just as impressed with him as I have of RJ. On a team full of Shoot-1st players, I was worried he wasn’t going to be aggressive and look for his shot. Him coming in and shooting is exactly what we want. RJ.Knox. And Mitch are the cornerstones of the Franchise future.

Fiz doesn’t run not one play-call for that young boy to feel empowered on that court, even after you see him get a shot go in, and he’s still trying to be aggressive coming off back screens.

Fiz is reminding me of Mike Woodson. When the Knicks actually ran Mike Woodson offense (GSW stole a lot of his sets on the low, which he basically just flipped a lot of Dantoni shyt) that 54 win Knick team set a lot of trends with that offense in the league. Mike just coddled Melo a lil too much and pick and chose who he wanted to be tough on.

Fiz kinda the same way. You can’t preach ball movement is all we’ve been working on, and the 1st 3 games been the exact opposite. Plus it’s obvious who the culprits are, on top of that you’re empowering it by letting the offense go through them consistently. At least Mike ran an elite offense. :hubie:
Exactly my issue with Fiz . If he was a players coach all around the board I could kind of get it but he’s not and the things he are preaching are not being upheld by Morris Portis and Randle so it looks silly to be like frank can’t play or Dotson can’t play when you got morris who almost literally never passes the ball once it’s in his hands . watch the game it’s like him and Randle are all the worse parts of Melo without his skill
 

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I don’t even get mad at the games. I only look at RJ Numbers that determines a bad or good game for me.
As he proves to get better it’s time to start building around him. If he shows to be the franchise player. It time to start trading people that’s not benefiting him. From the youngins to the vets
Dec 15th can’t come soon enough :dame:
I peeped Morris holding RJ down on several occasions last night. But the twin needs to stop acting like he's Trae Young.
 

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You don’t think Kyrie and KD wouldn’t have seriously considered signing with The Knicks if KP was still on the roster? Imagine Kyrie putting on a show every night in the Garden. :mjcry:


Took Us 30 Years To Draft A Star And We fukked It Up Of Course
 

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You don’t think Kyrie and KD wouldn’t have seriously considered signing with The Knicks if KP was still on the roster? Imagine Kyrie putting on a show every night in the Garden. :mjcry:
Its unlikely that Kyrie will last 20 games breh
 

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Let’s change the subject a bit. I was thinking that maybe they should move marcus Morris to the 4 randle to the bench Knox to the three. That’ll space the floor a bit more. I feel like playing randle and Morris at the same time is redundant. Morris is better defensively and has a better shot:manny:

Mitch/Morris/Knox/RJ/Payton
Bench- Taj/ Randle/Ellington/Trier/ Frank

that’s defense in the interior on both lineups
Shooters in both lineups
A defensive wing player.
Give Dotson some burn for extra defense and let’s see what iggy could do too.

Can we talk about RJs minutes though? He’s played 30+ minutes each game and I’m worried about him getting burned out. Just a thought.
Randle actually moves the ball more than Morris tho. But i don’t disagree. They both can’t play together
 
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