Older thread '20 NYK Off-season Thread

[ISO]

fukk you too Robert Randolph

When are they going to get rid of this old, goofy ass song.

MSG needs a fukking rebrand.

 

[RickyGQ]

So how we gonna lose this one?

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

Robinson has no ball skills and fouls way too much. Ntilikina also fouls way too much and is too inconsistent on the offensive end. It's cool they're high level defensive pieces but right now I don't feel good.

The hope is Mitchell can be a vertical spacing rim protector in the mold of Gobert and Ntilikina can become a Marcus Smart type glue guy.

Barrett was once projected as the top pick in the draft but his stock has dropped some since his high school days. He's definitely tough, definitely solid, depending on certain variables can be a guy who makes some All-Star teams. But he's not a franchise player level talent lacks elite athleticism and elite ball skills, he's just solid at both.

Kevin Knox definitely sucks and you can find guys like Dotson and Trier.

I don't know why Coli posters do this. Make a projection for a player's entire career on such a small sample size

It's kind of hard to tell how good RJ is early on because the offense doesn't even run through him

It runs through butter fingers Randle

But we're going to act like RJ can't improve drastically?

I'll remember this in 3-5 years if RJ becomes a superstar

If he doesn't, perennial all star is a good floor

 

[Ty-Fife]

It's looking like Wayne replacing Knox tonight

 

[Derek Lee]

Play Knox as the four instead of Portis. It should be his future position anyway.

 

[ISO]

Using current flaws to solely determine potential is a mistake. Mitch's foul rate is something that can be controlled as we saw late last season. Frank is averaging 4.9 fouls per 48...he doesn't have a foul problem. His consistency on offense is the ONLY thing that's a real problem, and even that isn't hopeless. I'm wondering if you believe Gobert and Smart are the ceilings or just a hope that they can at least get there. Either way, those are two very good players who are contributed on a winning team. Nothing to sneeze at.

Your criticism of RJ is definitely fair...but again, he is a rookie and you're pointing out his flaws and ignoring his positives. Are you saying that after 20 or so games you have no belief in RJ's ability to ascend

I'm willing to defer on your opinions of Knox, Dotson and Trier. I'll just note we've said the same things about past Knicks who ended up rotation players on good, great, and Championship teams

Gobert and Smart are ceilings. If they can become that I'd be happy as shyt.

 

[sdizzle]

Fiz made a timely timeout at the start of an opposing run

 

[ISO]

I don't know why Coli posters do this. Make a projection for a player's entire career on such a small sample size

It's kind of hard to tell how good RJ is early on because the offense doesn't even run through him

It runs through butter fingers Randle

But we're going to act like RJ can't improve drastically?

I'll remember this in 3-5 years if RJ becomes a superstar

If he doesn't, perennial all star is a good floor

I told you R.J. was a dog, I like him a lot.

I'm just telling you how I feel about him post was my thoughts on the core at the moment subject to change of course he isn't a great athlete and he isn't super skilled. He's a solid athlete, with solid ball skills, solid I.Q., and a high motor. I think he'll definitely be a real good player but I wouldn't call him a transcendent superstar level talent in this moment.

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

I told you R.J. was a dog, I like him a lot.

I'm just telling you how I feel about him post was my thoughts on the core at the moment subject to change of course he isn't a great athlete and he isn't super skilled. He's a solid athlete, with solid ball skills, solid I.Q., and a high motor. I think he'll definitely be a real good player but I wouldn't call him a transcendent superstar level talent in this moment.

We'll see. I disagree I think he's highly skilled
He has shown in college and moments (when he gets the ball consistenly) that he's a great passer
He's also a great rebounder as a guard
He's also shown great skill at finding different ways finishing at the basket and is already pretty strong as a rookie
The sky is the limit for RJ
I see high superstar potential with RJ and you don't
Agree to disagree

 

[Maluma]

Knicks with an impressive win today. Gj knicks brehs. Didn’t think you would do it.

 

[Aintnobodystupid]

Philly could use Randle's offense. These dudes are no where near contenders.

 

[Deep_Black_Conscious]

Of course the Knicks go completely away from RJ and Morris and Randle try to take over w/ their ISO

 

[Ironman]

It's to the point I'm angry whenever Julius No handles checks in

 

[Ty-Fife]

These nikkas starting to iso too much

They lucky the Sixers are cold as fukk

 

[sdizzle]

If Sixers werent cold this lead would be gone