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Perry outsnaked Mills:mjlol:
I didn't think someone could outsnake a real life Littlefinger but...
Hopefully Perry gets fired after the Knicks bring in the new president
We're about to trade for a bunch of Magic, Kings and Pistons busts :russ:

But it's a price well worth paying for getting rid of Mills :blessed:
 

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trier is beefing with RJ. For that reason alone they should trade him. It’s unfortunate but it’s reasonable. Knowing the Knicks luck Trier becomes a 14 PF player next year and learns to pass the ball more
What makes you say they are beefing ? I know trier is frustrated but if he beefing with RJ he gotta go
 

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There's a few names that I think we'll wind up linked to for sure. Masai Ujiri is the no brainer but unlikely to happen. I can't see Toronto letting him walk without us compensating them like we're trading for a quality player and even that's a long shot to me. The rumor mill is gonna make this path sound a lot more likely than it is imo.

IF we're continuing the rebuild direction which all sources are starting to point to but we'll know after Thursday for sure...I'd combine our rebuilding position with Dolan's need for big splashy names and think Sam Hinkie's name will pop up at some point if we don't hire quickly. He's the architect of The Process and got Philly fans to be patient longer than anyone expected, then got pushed out right at the next step stage. I'm not his biggest fan, but he's competent and patient almost to a fault. My love for youth and development team building would work with him.

My sleeper choice though would be to try and poach RC Buford from San Antonio. Buford has been with Pop forever basically, won all the chips with him as either Director of Scouting or GM. Those two titles feed into why I love him as a choice too, he's been the scout and been the GM, he knows every level of the game from experience. For the most part, word has been that he's just gotta wait for Pop to retire and the Spurs are his but the man's been in the shadow of Pop his whole career...NYC would be a huge chance for him and he has the acumen. I think poaching Buford would be less costly and is more realistic (especially if the Spurs miss the post season).

I'll have to poke around but the other trees I'd look at trying to shake something loose would be guys who worked under Ainge and Riley. Those are executives who have proven consistently to run a good show and their students ought to bring in the acumen I'd like to see. I'm thinking my boy Vivek from the Knicks Film School crew might be a good person to tap and ask about this stuff. Dude has a crazy good grasp of NBA history and what's gone on in the backgrounds, so he may have some names and ideas that are good. He does the "on this day" articles for KFS, is pretty active on twitter (and realgm) and knows his stuff.

Edit: Found my target from the Ainge tree - Mike Zarren but like Buford and Ujiri, he'd be tough to pry away as a lifelong C's guy

Michael Zarren - Assistant GM and Team Counsel

Zarren is widely recognized as one of the leaders in the field of advanced statistical analysis of basketball players and teams and is an important part of the team’s strategic planning and player personnel evaluation processes. Zarren is also the team’s salary cap expert and lead in-house counsel (for both basketball and business-side issues), and is responsible for the development of new technologies for team use, including the team’s best-in-class statistical database and video archive/delivery system.
 
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Whoa brother are you saying Frank N, Kevin Knox, Alonzo Trier are too much to send for S Russell?
I'm saying I see so much potential in specifically Kevin Knox over the next 2 years that would be beneficial to the warriors if he has the right mentors around him. Curry could mentor him and Frankie on being more efficient shooters. Frankie is already a good defender combined with Draymond and they're spacers which is great for their offense. Frank will be better off the bench behind Klay but Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Kevin Knox, Draymond Green, whatever big they acquire could potentially be a good lineup.

The Knicks are terrible at developing talent whereas on another team, these guys would be blossoming. Look at the Pelicans rookies in hindsight.
 

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I wouldn't take D-Lo even if we were giving nothing. 30 million dollars is best player on a championship team money. D-Lo isn't the second best player on a championship team imo and I don't think he'll get there.
now isnt the right team to commit 30 million dollars over 4 years to a pg like dlo. we need to get our house in order before we make any decisions like that.
and he even tho he is a nice pg( better than anything we have) he aint a game changer
 

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I wouldn't take D-Lo even if we were giving nothing. 30 million dollars is best player on a championship team money. D-Lo isn't the second best player on a championship team imo and I don't think he'll get there.
:sadcam:I hate when nikkas make sense and it's counter to what I want.

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Wait... let me ask this, he may not be a gamechanger...


But, would he be a culture changer?

Like could he be piece of a team that reverses the reputation we have as a losing laughing stock?:ld:
 

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I fukks with Shamet :obama:

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Was hoping we would keep Zo after the deadline since Ellington took a lot of minutes from him in the beginning, but it is what it is I guess. Hoping bro balls out wherever he lands at.

:mjcry: I actually liked Trier, still think he can be a great sixth man

shame the Knicks didn’t give him a chance. Weird considering he was getting good burn last season but :yeshrug:

hope he balls out wherever he lands
 

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I could see Sam Presti being hired as well.

The feeling I am getting from reports are that Dolan just wants to hire someone with a track record of success or who has connection to players.

Masai would be the dream, but guys like Buford or Presti might be more the reality because honestly they may just want to make a lot of money. No other reason to come here but cash out.
 

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:sadcam:I hate when nikkas make sense and it's counter to what I want.

fukk you, Story

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Wait... let me ask this, he may not be a gamechanger...


But, would he be a culture changer?

Like could he be piece of a team that reverses the reputation we have as a losing laughing stock?:ld:

I don't think he's a culture changer tbh. I know the Nets sold him as a leader, but I think they just used his reclamation story to sell other players (Kyrie) on signing there for image reasons. I think you can bring in culture changers for cheaper than he'd cost both as a contract and in what we have to give up for him. In terms of pure value, Knox and Frank aren't too much to bring him in. But if you consider we could target a FVV who comes from a championship pedigree and should come in 10 million dollars a year cheaper...I'd just look his way. And even that's my back-up plan. This draft is gonna be loaded with exciting ball handling prospects. I'd bring one of them in and look for more locker room presences like Taj has been. Guys that don't need a lot of minutes or touches at all, but who instill the right culture (Vince Carter's last few years are a perfect example).

To me D-Lo is 20 shots per game to get 25ish ppg. I think we could get RJ to be that guy and have him on cost controlled. God forbid we end up in position to draft Edwards and I think he's that guy too. So my main point of view is D-Lo's not the type of player we need, costs more than he impacts the game and in terms of culture plays I'd target others instead.

I ain't mad at D-Lo fans though. He's just not my preferred approach.
 

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Just the mention of Rich Paul gets me heated. I want nothing to do with Lebron and his camp. Everyone is throwing out names just for the fukk of it. Just because the only way to go is up doesn’t mean we should gamble on anyone. Why the fukk should we give Kenny Smith the job just because he’s from New York and can communicate with the fans? I want to choke Steven A just for mentioning that.


He’s the same guy who cried over the Porzingis draft pick because he wanted Willie Cauly Stein.
 

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I could see Sam Presti being hired as well.

The feeling I am getting from reports are that Dolan just wants to hire someone with a track record of success or who has connection to players.

Masai would be the dream, but guys like Buford or Presti might be more the reality because honestly they may just want to make a lot of money. No other reason to come here but cash out.

Great name to add into the conversation. I'd take Presti in a heartbeat too.
 
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