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U dislike facts?

U boys catch man crushes on players that’s the problem.

We talking about building a team here.
I hate when you post irrelevant bullshyt to denigrate somebody's accomplishments. If it were that easy for rim runners to beat Wilt's record, it wouldn't have taken nearly 40 fukkin years to do so. SHAQ couldn't beat Wilt's record...so yes, this is a legitimate accomplishment.

Am I saying Mitch is untouchable? No.

Am I low key saying Mitch is better than Shaq? Hell fukking no.

Are you saying you can find a player who can break a Wilt record in every draft? You damn sure did

You can't see the problem with that I ain't gonna explain it to you.

At the end of the day, there's nobody in THIS draft worth trading Mitch for. Expand our talent and develop...that's our only job this season
 
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I don’t know man.... they better not Jerome James themselves
Wood might not command more than 12 mil on the open market and since he's not a RFA Detroit can't do shyt to retain him. Breh flashed a lot of potential post all-star break, so I think signing him is a smart risk to take if we can get him on the cheap.
 

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In terms of fit, I'd lean toward Kira. But if the Knicks took a shot on Okoro, I'd completely understand. The idea of Frank, RJ, Okoro and Mitch playing in a defensive system designed by Thibs and Woodson is kinda crazy fam. Offensively, it kinda comes down to how much you buy into his shot improving. He's strong as hell, handles the ball pretty well, solid passer, and a legitimately good finisher point blank. But the jumper is the missing piece.

And since it's the jumper that's a question mark, I think you can see why I fall more toward Kira Lewis. Kira's offensive fit is just as hype to me as Okoro's defensive potential with those youngsters. Kira's speed combines with Robinson's freak athleticism to make for a very hype pick and roll offense. He can also shoot off the dribble when defenders go under the screen. He can make tough passes with both hands, which means shooters and cutters can eat too. The offense speeds up as soon as he touches the floor fam...and defensively, he's not bad but he has to get stronger which should happen with NBA trainers.

I don't think you go wrong picking either of them, but purely on fit I lean toward Kira Lewis.

Kira reminds me of KJ (Kevin Johnson) but more of a deep threat. He’s got that extra gear speed needed to get to the rim like KJ had at the NBA level but without the crazy athletic jumping ability. I wouldn’t be mad at all if we ended up with him
 

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I hate when you post irrelevant bullshyt to denigrate somebody's accomplishments. If it were that easy for rim runners to beat Wilt's record, it wouldn't have taken nearly 40 fukkin years to do so. SHAQ couldn't beat Wilt's record...so yes, this is a legitimate accomplishment.

Am I saying Mitch is untouchable? No.

Am I low key saying Mitch is better than Shaq? Hell fukking no.

Are you saying you can find a player who can break a Wilt record in every draft? You damn sure did

You can't see the problem with that I ain't gonna explain it to you.

At the end of the day, there's nobody in THIS draft worth trading Mitch for. Expand our talent and develop...that's our only job this season
Like I said you catch crushes on players :wrist:

That’s why you hate to see Mitch FG% in proper context. His FG% is a direct result of his offensive limitations. It’s a product of 185 dunks. It’s a product of assisted and rebounded shots directly at the rim. It’s a product of taking 10 combined jumpers and hook shots all season.

He barely qualified to capture this record in field goal attempts and games played. His shot volume is very low and he didn’t play many minutes.

The record just shows what he is a great rim runner. There’s really no difference to me between 74% FG and Gobert shooting 70% FG and Robert Williams shooting 72% FG. Tyson Chandler shooting 67% FG with us his first year. At that point it’s a wash you know what you’re getting, hyperefficient paint play.

Wilt himself set this record when he was past his prime on the Lakers taking a career low in shot attempts and mostly shots at the rim. No more sweeping hooks, finger rolls, or baseline fades he was known for.

Shaq would never set this record. He took too many hook shots, short range jumpers, and initiated too much offense with his back to the basket, and against double and triple teams. If you just factored his at the rim %’s like a Mitch he’d have like a 78% FG.

Mitch has no offensive skill other than dunking and is one of the leagues most foul prone defenders. The rim runners have lost their value in NBA GM circles. The Knicks haven’t had transcendent guard play in forever. To me yeah he is worth trading for LaMelo Ball.

Because like I said you can find another rim runner in every draft :bryan:

Just last year...

-Jaxson Hayes
-Nic Claxton
-Daniel Gafford (70% FG, 3.3 blocks per 36 for Bulls)
-Bruno Fernando

Do these nikkas have to be as good as Mitch? Noooo, they just have to be productive rim runners and rim protectors, I’ll take 75% of the production if it means getting a LaMelo or Edwards.

Azubuike’s rim protection and hyper efficient paint play would translate to the league. His measurables and athletic testing are off the charts, he’s 22 which makes him NBA ready. He did the same shyt in college take nothing but paint shots ended up setting the NCAA record in FG% (79%). He can’t defend in space as well as Mitch (he did slim down) but he has his advantages, he can actually post up and he’s way bigger in terms of mass and even wingspan.
 
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I would need to see more prolonged play before I commit money and years to that guy and if we’re signing him Randle and/or Portis can’t be on this team.
He's the prototype 5 for the NBA going forward imo. Would be unstoppable in the PnR with CP3/Kira
 
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