the term "oldhead" is used out of respect. it doesnt neccessarily mean that youre an old man. and youre usually called such for the stuff that you do, not just your age.
at least thats how its used up here. but we're the originators of the term.
Oldheads ?How was it like when 2pac died?
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the term "oldhead" is used out of respect. it doesnt neccessarily mean that youre an old man. and youre usually called such for the stuff that you do, not just your age.
at least thats how its used up here. but we're the originators of the term.
sounds to me like you lived a very sheltered life.
word, these nikkas really offended i called them oldheads
i can tell dese nikkas from the burbs
^^^i wouldnt neccessarily say theyre from the burbs.
i think the lingo hasnt spread to every part of the country yet. that may be the gap.
but yo, that avi is priceless.
well i certainly wouldnt say that eazy's death came & went. it was a big deal.
but youre ignoring the 2 main reasons why eazy's death wasnt as big as pac's.
1. the fact that eazy went out with whats considered to be a shameful death. and generally speaking, there wasnt nearly as much known about the disease so the suspiciousness surrounding eazy acquiring the disease wasnt even a thought back then. maybe in cali, there was talk of him being injected with it but the general public just assumed he caught it from a dirty hot hoe. especially with the way he carried himself.
2. eazy was basically in CEO mode by that point. meanwhile, pac was the center of attention. he was the biggest and also most controversial figure for a good year & a half leading up to his death, and was one of the biggest figures for 2 years before that.
pac's panther roots were always a big deal. it kinda took a backseat when the whole death row/bad boy thing was going on and AEOM lacked the revolutionary pac stuff. but he was back at it with "7 day theory", altho he passed before it dropped.
but yes, i agree that pac had a machine making the impact of his death even greater. same with biggie. thats why i always give people the
when they have pac & big as 1 and 2, followed by jay & nas at 3 and 4. so phoney...........pac is the goat tho.
as far as chuck d/krs-one goes, they were never as big as pac. plus the '90s gets more glorification than the '80s for whatever reason. he'd still be a bigger deal than them if he was alive. hell, dudes like jay & nas are still moving units off of lukewarm records. unless he became blackballed, pac wouldnt be
status.
i think the lingo hasnt spread to every part of the country yet. that may be the gap.
but yo, that avi is priceless.
well i certainly wouldnt say that eazy's death came & went. it was a big deal.
but youre ignoring the 2 main reasons why eazy's death wasnt as big as pac's.
1. the fact that eazy went out with whats considered to be a shameful death. and generally speaking, there wasnt nearly as much known about the disease so the suspiciousness surrounding eazy acquiring the disease wasnt even a thought back then. maybe in cali, there was talk of him being injected with it but the general public just assumed he caught it from a dirty hot hoe. especially with the way he carried himself.
2. eazy was basically in CEO mode by that point. meanwhile, pac was the center of attention. he was the biggest and also most controversial figure for a good year & a half leading up to his death, and was one of the biggest figures for 2 years before that.
pac's panther roots were always a big deal. it kinda took a backseat when the whole death row/bad boy thing was going on and AEOM lacked the revolutionary pac stuff. but he was back at it with "7 day theory", altho he passed before it dropped.
but yes, i agree that pac had a machine making the impact of his death even greater. same with biggie. thats why i always give people the
when they have pac & big as 1 and 2, followed by jay & nas at 3 and 4. so phoney...........pac is the goat tho.as far as chuck d/krs-one goes, they were never as big as pac. plus the '90s gets more glorification than the '80s for whatever reason. he'd still be a bigger deal than them if he was alive. hell, dudes like jay & nas are still moving units off of lukewarm records. unless he became blackballed, pac wouldnt be
status.
I'll never forget. It was Friday the 13th. Pac had got shot that previous Saturday, but he was expected to live, so I didn't really see it coming. I was a freshman in HS. Later on that day after getting home from school, I was listening to the radio and they were playing a Pac song. Usually, I browse the stations just to see what else is on before I settle, so I switched to a different station, and they were playing Pac also. So I just kept it on there and once the song finished, the DJ announced that he had died. I basically remember listening to the radio that entire night and just reminiscing not only of his music, but the fact that this dude was in movies as well. shyt was crazy. I remember in the hood, everybody was bumpin Pac as well.
whats eerie is that i hopped in this thread the other day, then that night, hector camacho got shot.
its the same situation. when i found out about the shooting, they were reporting that camacho was gonna be okay. then, in the morning, they were saying that he may be brain dead. now theyre talking about pulling the plug.
crazy how things can be sometimes.
its the same situation. when i found out about the shooting, they were reporting that camacho was gonna be okay. then, in the morning, they were saying that he may be brain dead. now theyre talking about pulling the plug.
crazy how things can be sometimes.
MooseMouthMthafuga
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That's what I always tell nikkaz, Pac had the south on lock.Southern folk love the shyt out of him.
Once you pass Ohio, headed Northeast, that's where you start to run into nikkaz who expressions change like this
when you mention Pac.From my experiences & travels, people in Chicago, New Orleans, and Houston love Pac just as much, if not more than the folks in Cali
Hit em up was just
when I heard it and the way you put it, "Hit Em Up" killed both him and Biggie. You will never get a story like that in Hip Hop again, like Pac. Dude faced tremendous pressure everywhere and he cracked. Suge Knight got into his head and fukked him up something serious. Add the fact that Pac clones roamed the rap game several years after he died, and you got yourself a certified legend.
I was in l.a at the time and everybody at least in the hood and l.a proper acted like mlk was assassinated again.
ltheghost
Payin Debts.... N40
I was in Middle School when it happened. And our cac teacher was like "I hope he dies this time" We gave her shyt the entire year after that. She actually transferred to another school. She would go up to the board and start writing and someone would throw a pen at that bytch. Every single day and nobody snitched on who it was. But that was a sad day. I was in shock. I think that was first time a famous person I really liked got killed. This was in Michigan by the way. Then Biggie got killed and people just went numb after that. The 90's was messed up.
Notorious 1 E.Y.E.
Superstar
shyt was all over the news
people where shocked
people where shocked
Who said any of the shyt you posted.. Making up your own quotes and shyt
Who said it was a similar "aura" to MJ?
... All I said was that it was similar in that some folks thought he would pull through, and then the next morning you found out he was dead...When MJ was on is deathbed, there was a lot of uncertainty and folks thought he would pull through... No one said that they were on the same scale though...
Thats how I remembered it atleast
MooseMouthMthafuga
Veteran
And dumb
Puff came with the shiny suit era and we started to get a bunch of gimmick type rappers.
That was like hip hop's mourning period and everybody was vulnerable.....even some white folks lent a sympathetic ear.
Puff being the sly business man that he is, took full advantage of that shyt and commercialized the fukk out of it.
That's when hip hop started getting really generic.I know a lot of people won't like me saying it, but Jay Z and DMX benefited from that shyt, to.
I love a lot of X's shyt, but I always felt that "bringing the streets back" was manufactured and gimmicky.Some great songs came out of it, but X was hand picked and marketed on some subliminal(blatant if you had your eyes peeled) "Tupac substitute" type shyt.Def Jam saw a open market and tapped into it with X.That street shyt used to have a hard time making it to mainstream, but X came into the game and was immediately given a platform?......before then, X was on some "spellbound" shyt
That's all the industry does is find a market to tap into.Jay took over Big's slot and X took Pac's.....not saying they're not great rappers, just that they benefited by coming out during that mourning period
^meh.
if that were the case, then jay wouldve blew up off of volume 1 instead. volume 2 blew because it was full of big hits.
as for the dmx thing, yea maybe for the east coast but the east wasnt known for buying records like that anyway. the rest of the country's radio stations werent filled with fluff. you could just watch an episode of rap city from back then and see how most of the singles from the other coasts were still on the mid-90s tip. we gonna act like master p wasnt the 400 million dollar man? he was like the hardest out in the mainstream before dmx.
x & jay earned they stripes.
i do see what youre saying about the marketing tho, and of course youre gonna automatically benefit when 2 major players go down. but other than that - nah.
if that were the case, then jay wouldve blew up off of volume 1 instead. volume 2 blew because it was full of big hits.
as for the dmx thing, yea maybe for the east coast but the east wasnt known for buying records like that anyway. the rest of the country's radio stations werent filled with fluff. you could just watch an episode of rap city from back then and see how most of the singles from the other coasts were still on the mid-90s tip. we gonna act like master p wasnt the 400 million dollar man? he was like the hardest out in the mainstream before dmx.
x & jay earned they stripes.
i do see what youre saying about the marketing tho, and of course youre gonna automatically benefit when 2 major players go down. but other than that - nah.