Oldheads.. i just read kurt cobains biography :wow:

[MushroomX]

While I somewhat agree with you I think nirvana should be revered. They made great music.

And I think him dying young/suicide is significant. Making art was the only thing worthwhile to that dudes life. He alwyas hated life, he just wanted to make a few more pieces of art before ending it, and wound up taking over the world doing it. There are plenty of song writers musicians, artists that are talented and actually like living and want to live and come nowhere near what kurt cobain accomplished..

I'd say thats exceptional talent

They did make great music, but for me... I feel like Cobain's death just amplified the band. It's hard now to put Nirvana aside from Cobain's death itself, as you get people that go, "Was Kurt saying something in his music?"

As for hating life, I tend to think Kurt didn't hate life... but per previous post... I tend to think he really underestimated what his music would reach to and it made him out to be some kind of Gen X God; when in reality this was a person who was depressive, who had constant stomach issues and then got too deep into drugs.

Plus be married to Courtney Love probably wasn't the best decision.

It's like they say... you can have everything in the world, and it still doesn't make you happy.

 

[987654321]

And here come all the “welll akshually” ass nikkas acting like the rest of us weren’t also there, in real time, to also love and appreciate Nirvana…Just like a large chunk of the world did. We aren’t in middle school anymore the whole line of “well such and such was better…” is stupid! WE’RE GROWN and can appreciate more than one thing.


And Radiohead is cool and all, but why would you bring up Thom “slightly less of a dikkhead than Billy Corgan” Yorke?! Just make a Radiohead thread, we’ll come in and dap that shyt too!


This thread is about the rare young head actually coming to appreciate some shyt from OUR era and showing love! This thread is a celebration of Kurt “grunge-pac” Cobain, and there’s nothing your crybaby asses can do about it.


Jane’s addiction is my favorite, but you not gon see me running up in a Temple of the Dog thread on some lame ass “well actually, Porno for Pyro’s is the better spin off band…”


Y’all somehow more miserable than me on a friday and I still have 10 more hours left in my work day, plus an hour trip home… that I will spend playing “In Utero”, thanks to this thread.

 

[DaKidFromNoWhere]

I seen a few post saying what would have happened with his legacy if he lived.
If they would have stayed relevant.
Maybe so.
David Grohl was the drummer so The Foo Fighters might not exist and the songs would be Nirvanas.

 

[Cakebatter]

I’m somewhat of a music historian, this is not true

Rock and grunge was very popular til the late 00s

Limp Bizkit, Saliva, Three Days Grace, Drowning Pool etc were still played in mainstream rock

I don't consider myself a music historian, but I was in high school when Nirvana came on the scene, so I'm not prone to revisionist history. Nirvana wasn't the only prominent grunge act out of the Pacific Northwest in the late 80s. You had Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, and even better Temple of the Dog. Pearl Jam went on to have long success, but the Grunge sub-genre of rock (Grunge and Nirvana are the scope of this discussion) ceased to keep mindshare by 1993. Go look up the Billboard hot 100 for 1993 and 1994. Is there a single grunge track in it? Nowhere in my previous comments do I even imply that rock music as a whole was dead by 1994. Alternative Music and Hip Hop simply overtook general Rock music in popularity. Alternative Music took up all of the spots Rock acts use to hold on the Billboard Hot 100. Don't believe me, go look at the Billboard Hot 100s of 1988 and see all the Rock singles back then. I think Alternative music went out of fasion late 90s to early 2000s as Nu Metal gained popularity, but again I'm no music historian. I look at Grunge music the same way I look at the mid 90s Ska revival. Kurt Kobain's untimely death is the only thing that keeps Nirvana relevant. No different than the Doors and Jim Morrison's untimely death. This isn't to belittle his genius and the popularity of Nevermind.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Radiohead was kind of dope…. fukk a MJ smiley

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I heard that Jim Carrey once said "I wish everybody could become rich and famous so they can see that it's not the answer."

fukk the famous part, rich is just fine by itself

 

[Pazzy]

Dude had a chronic stomach illness that couldn’t be diagnosed. The pain was so intense that every prescription medication he tried didn’t work and the only thing that soothes the pain was heroine. So yeah his life was doomed off that alone.

And I forget, just why I taste
Oh yeah, I guess it makes me smile
I found it hard, it's hard to find
Oh well, whatever, never mind

If i can recall, he got ulcers from all that heroin use.

Say what you want about kurt, he was a real one. He said a lot of real shyt and he was ahead of his time. Theres rumors that he was murdered apparently it may have to do with his money but to be fair, he was a heroin addict that overdosed many times and wasnt happy. Him being famous just gave him more leeway to harm himself. He had to have one hell of a mind to come up with music like that. Nevermind is a top 10 all time album. I played that shyt for a hot minute. In utero grew on me. My first reaction to listening to it was that it was a downgrade from nevermind but over time, it grew on me.

I dont know if dave or krist were the ones that came up with those rhythms or kurt but you can hear the jazz influence to a degree in their music. Personally, theres a universe rhythm in music that if someone is in tune or has the right ear, you can make music to a sonic rhythmic bounce where you can move and flow to it naturally. Nirvana has a lot of that so I know they all were talented as hell. Kurt most definitely had a mental problem.

 

[Da_Eggman]

he was doing heavy drugs since like 15 too

 

[Address_Unknown]

That's Bob dylan breh​

Bob Dylan had a run and was one of the most influential song writers of his time before he decided he didn't want people liking his shyt anymore, so he went full retard and made a double album full of song in that weird singing style he adopted around that time for the "Self Portraits" double album, in an attempt to be knocked off the pedestal the hippy and flower child community put him on.
He's been alive long enough to lose that special brand of hype he had in the 70's come up like alot of musical stars from that era, but dude is far from all time overrated.​

 

[Da_Eggman]

Bob Dylan had a run and was one of the most influential song writers of his time before he decided he didn't want people liking his shyt anymore, so he went full retard and made a double album full of song in that weird singing style he adopted around that time for the "Self Portraits" double album, in an attempt to be knocked off the pedestal the hippy and flower child community put him on.
He's been alive long enough to lose that special brand of hype he had in the 70's come up like alot of musical stars from that era, but dude is far from all time overrated.​

He went born again cuz of a girl he was in love with during those weird albums

 

[Carl Tethers]

Bob Dylan had a run and was one of the most influential song writers of his time before he decided he didn't want people liking his shyt anymore, so he went full retard and made a double album full of song in that weird singing style he adopted around that time for the "Self Portraits" double album, in an attempt to be knocked off the pedestal the hippy and flower child community put him on.
He's been alive long enough to lose that special brand of hype he had in the 70's come up like alot of musical stars from that era, but dude is far from all time overrated.​

Word. As far as cacs in popular music go, I don't know many you could put above Dylan

 

[beejus]

He and Pete Dougherty were talented catastrophes. I really liked the libertines. Pete’s barely alive I think.

It’s the weather. Just awful all the time.

Unless you live here that's a bold statement to make. July-October our weather is perfect. Other parts of the year yeah it's rough.

 

[boogers]

Cobain's contribution to rock isn't anywhere near the level of Dre's on hip hop. The music industry had moved on from Nirvana before Cobain died. By 1994, Alternative music has over taken rock and grunge by then.

'alternative music' is rock and grunge you absolute moron

 

[3rdWorld]

The 90s, oh what a time to be alive

All genres of music were on fire!!

 

[The Fade]

I think he had stomach problems that left him in agony all the time