On a technical level Eminem shyts on Nas and its not even close...heres why

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folks really trying to act like they rhyme scientists and cant hear the basics

the 'perfect' rhyme structure that rhyme king is lauding is really AZ's rhyme style...
and goes on saying AZ cant see Eminem when it comes to complex rhyme schemes,
and then has the nerve to quote examples where Eminem is literally doing his best AZ rendition

SMFH

i hate most rap fas eminem writes nothing like nas or az eminem is way more " complex " then az and nas combine.
 

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Probably because Nas is still in the game, everybody else mentioned kinda doesn't have a voice in the game right now, no need to prop nas up when he just dropped a dope album last year, or at least that's how I see it.

eminem said this about nas and az when saying he sounded like them



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Give me Twista over Em on a technical level and every other level after that.

Busta can rhyme in any style with technical proficiency.
Twista is probably hands down the best technical rapper...
And Em can't come up with "I drink Moet with Medusa give her shotguns in Hell" or any other meaningful rhyme filled with meaning and poetic nuance. Shyt outside of stringing, random, cartooney lines together, Eminem lacks the fortitude to come up with any poetical.
That line dont got no fukkin meanin, fukk you dumb ass naS stans on :heh:
No. You never advanced past 9th grade Literature class and thus that's why you think this is any kind of argument.
Actually naS never finished the 7th grade... thats why his raps sound dumb.
 

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Plate tectonics hate economics comics be brolic
soda water chasin tonic, teeth, no orthodonist
smokin the bubonic chronic until the don hits
lock and load the 38 and blast a hoe n kids

Em aint better than no NaS :ahh:
 

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i hate most rap fas eminem writes nothing like nas or az eminem is way more " complex " then az and nas combine.

rhyme scheme wise Eminem is no more complex than AZ.
Granted AZ isnt that versitile in flows, or content, but purely based off of rhyme schemes AZ is up there with anyone in the history of rap

i could pick random AZ verses and throw against any rapper, and AZ rhyme scheme will be as complex or more... its basically the only thing AZ has going for him.

facts is facts homie!
 

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nas fans give me a nas verse where is rhyming 3-4 syllables where the syllables not only rhyme but match in syllable count while not rhyming the same word rhyming syllables that are within the bar etc
and the pattern is complex.


You bytches get a hysterectomy disrespecting me
You wanna feel the full effect of me, hand a tech to me
Intellectually superior, I'll make the whack wearier
Inferior, deterior
rate, like bacteria
Materially,
killing serially, clearly you'll see
How much in fear when u hear me you'll be
Shiver and shake, quiver and quake

Bite a rhyme and rip it off then stiffer and ache, whither and break
You slithering snake, gibbering fake, fibbering flake
I'll twist you into a different shape
And toss you in Michigan Lake, for fisherman sake
If this is a dream you'd wish you can wake
Every dis you can take, personal
We ain't friends trying to make amends
If you ain't ever stole a gate you can take a fence
I make intense masterpieces and smash to pieces
Your last releases, you bad diseases, that's the reason
I'm showing you the proper way to operate a mic
So pass it like a hot potato
I've never been less than clever and fresh
Severing flesh
of fools who never impressed I can confess
 

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rhyme scheme wise Eminem is no more complex than AZ.
Granted AZ isnt that versitile in flows, or content, but purely based off of rhyme schemes AZ is up there with anyone in the history of rap

i could pick random AZ verses and throw against any rapper, and AZ rhyme scheme will be as complex or more... its basically the only thing AZ has going for him.

facts is facts homie!


come on breh he rhyming 3-4 syllables that not only actually rhyme but match in syllable count and also while not rhyming the same word and in the abab rhyme pattern while rhyming alot of syllables per line while switching the scheme up breh post a verse or shut up ! smh.


You bytches get a hysterectomy disrespecting me
You wanna feel the full effect of me, hand a tech to me
Intellectually superior, I'll make the whack wearier
Inferior, deterior rate, like bacteria
Materially, killing serially, clearly you'll see
How much in fear when u hear me you'll be
Shiver and shake, quiver and quake
Bite a rhyme and rip it off then stiffer and ache, whither and break
You slithering snake, gibbering fake, fibbering flake
I'll twist you into a different shape
And toss you in Michigan Lake, for fisherman sake
If this is a dream you'd wish you can wake
Every dis you can take, personal
We ain't friends trying to make amends
If you ain't ever stole a gate you can take a fence
I make intense masterpieces and smash to pieces
Your last releases, you bad diseases, that's the reason
I'm showing you the proper way to operate a mic
So pass it like a hot potato
I've never been less than clever and fresh
Severing flesh of fools who never impressed I can confess
 

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complete random AZ verse, literally just put AZ into youtube and his last single of his last album popped up never heard it before today... literally the first AZ verse i can find

Drama seas, sands so white
Bahamas beach, your plans go right

Out of reach, rambo flights
In some two seater, sitting up like cleavage
Plane conceded, the prayer was a parapalegic
Save the chatter, my swagga's needed, believe it
Button ups, tailor custom cuts
Trees on the feet, physique fukks him up
Thats whats up
Straight from the gutter side
Keep clean on everything my mother dries
Still I love allah , sucker for southern fries
Facing affiliation, embracing my butterflies
I,(I) been down for a minute now
Theres none flyer,all the live wires in the ground
A young messaih, admired by entire town
Sun-fire, stay higher than Miriah's sound
So you know I'm on some other shyt
Sneak peak, low creep, deep cover shyt

sets it off with six syllable multi syllable rhyme and goes on from there...
 

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Before, anyone knew what an Eminem was, an 18 year old kid name Nas was already a lyrical monster on his first album, I.e. It Ain't Hard To Tell, and the other eight classic tracks on Illmatic

And, besides Treach is Em's father

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complete random AZ verse, literally just put AZ into youtube and his last single of his last album popped up never heard it before today... literally the first AZ verse i can find

Drama seas, sands so white
Bahamas beach, your plans go right

Out of reach, rambo flights
In some two seater, sitting up like cleavage
Plane conceded, the prayer was a parapalegic
Save the chatter, my swagga's needed, believe it
Button ups, tailor custom cuts
Trees on the feet, physique fukks him up
Thats whats up

Straight from the gutter side
Keep clean on everything my mother dries
Still I love allah , sucker for southern fries
Facing affiliation, embracing my butterflies
I,(I) been down for a minute now
Theres none flyer,all the live wires in the ground
A young messaih, admired by entire town
Sun-fire, stay higher than Miriah's sound
So you know I'm on some other shyt
Sneak peak, low creep, deep cover shyt

sets it off with six syllable multi syllable rhyme and goes on from there...

lyrically this is not a flawless rhyme scheme
 

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double time flow confuses so many people.i see that the double time flow has people thinking em is on levels others cannot reach.
get the fukk outta here with nas cannot see em technically. as a nas fan i will agree em is better technically, but it is much closer than people think. most other areas nas superior imo.
nas uses fast flow every now and then, but only fleetingly. so dude has it in his arsenal.
example lil wayne's outro track

'Track record goes back to "The Essence",
Smack adolescents who ask who the best is
I'm nasty like gas from a fat man, intestine,
I pass it, you gaspin' for breath and you die fast
But I'm like a gastric bypass,....'

and there are other aspects where nas makes em look like an amateur. nas says shyt like this:

To call them fake today is hate, real nikkas extinct
Pac left me inside a rap world with nikkas that wink
At other rappers, undercover nikkas spit every way
Won't be surprised if all their rides have federal plates
Let alone their wardrobes and Studio 4 flow
It was real when I appeared, it would've been some jaws broke
Nas, my real name, stage name, same thing
How could you let these lames claim king? I'm so ashamed, man
I light a L for Vernon, for nikkas who would burn in Hell
For Vernon
; 10th Street, 12th Street, Nightmare on Elm Street
Pimps creep
, delve deep inside the editorials
Of the ghetto queens, kings, stories true
Who possesses the testicular fortitude
To blow away myths that's a hindrance to all of you
You blame your own shortcomings on sex and race
The mafia, homosexuals and all the Jews
It's hogwash point of views, stereotypical
Anti-Semitic
like the foul words Gibson spewed
And it's pathetic
, I don't get the credit I deserve
That's why I hate doing interviews
But I don't sweat it, study long, study raw
My man Dion said "Nas over-think the songs he writing"
I'm not a wack performer standing near a corny hype man
I got the Donism in me, I'm here to enlighten
:ahh::ahh::salute:


i guess i am one of those that admires fast flow but am not overly impressed by it.
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