On the real fukk high school

[42 Monks]

Disagree, I mean there is a social system setup in HS that guides your direction in life. I mean if you grow up to be a professional athlete chances are you find out you was nice in HS (Most players, not the exceptions like Lebron or late bloomers), if you like music, art, video games etc whatever it usually starts in HS. If you were bullied and beat up you either became a nerd or a serial killer.

Education wise, yeah it don't teach you shyt in the classroom, but low key socially it does help to shape who you are going to be in life. I mean how hot chicks with self esteem issues are there because they were ugly or fat in HS?

High School is the worst social environment that many people will ever experience in their lives Materialism to the max, standardized testing, home life that almost never meshes with social life where in the adult world the two will HAVE to go hand in hand (as in, you wouldn't meet the rich/poor kids from across the district if you weren't forced to be in the same building as them in school - never happens in adult life because you won't have shyt in common with them later so their mindset will always be irrelevant to you in the long run), emphasis on sports when its really nothing but a single entertainment aspect that has a price attached at the cost of other avenues and programs, staff inability to understand or even explain complex concepts to the greater student body because the support structure many times isn't capable of handling it outside of a case by case capacity, the people who don't have guidance from strong mentors/parents start their way down avoidable paths there, etc... I could go on.

But no, HS ain' shyt. And you're from Raleigh - imagine going to high school in Durham a few years back Those kids are fukked

 

[BruhMayne]

Didn't learn shyt academically but high school was GOAT

 

[12345A]

How many High schools even tell you what a credit score is or the pros and cons of leasing vs outright buying a vehicle? The vast majority won't leave high school even knowing what equity is. Hell, people out here thinking that anti-vaccination is a credible opinion after getting an education in this country. Bottom line is get your diploma so you can get a job, and make learning your personal responsibility. No one is gonna grade you on that but life.

Well there are high schools that do have economics and personal finance courses I know because I was in one. I know high school isn't going to touch on every little aspect on adult life but part of the purpose of high school is to give you a sense of responsibility and teach you how to cope under stressful situations. That's why the whole "holding a students hand" thing is SUPPOSEDLY left behind in elementary/middle school. You're supposed to take it all in stride. High school is supposed to be this big responsibility factor in a young adults life where he/she learns the fundamentals of being an adult. Basically this is where you start to build character all the dilligence required to remain on top of school work athletics and what ever other activities you have going on at the time eventually accumulates into you becoming the stronger more capable version of you. This is what you use to find your way out in the real world... You apply your new found identity that you should have developed through years of work in high school to learning how things work in this world. When you're constantly pushing yourself under stressful situations you will eventually become a strategic problem solver.

 

[Ricky Church]

I didn't learn shyt in H.S. as far as academically.

H.S. was a straight party, 24/7 for me.

 

[cyndaquil]

How many High schools even tell you what a credit score is or the pros and cons of leasing vs outright buying a vehicle? The vast majority won't leave high school even knowing what equity is. Hell, people out here thinking that anti-vaccination is a credible opinion after getting an education in this country. Bottom line is get your diploma so you can get a job, and make learning your personal responsibility. No one is gonna grade you on that but life.

Exactly breh that shyt dont tell you how to put in a job app or nothing

 

[intruder]

That shyt does not prepare you for the real world

So where did you learn to put them fancy letters together to form words that make up the sentences you are using to express your frustration about high-school?

 

[Knuckles Red]

Highschool was a blur to me. I totally shut down. I didn't hang out with anyone outside of school. I was so shocked and surprised when I got to college a couple years ago. Down to earth blacks that you could actually have a convo with. Not having to be the only black/poc in the class. It was so much more diverse and engaging than the busy work they gave us in high school. Overall, college >>> High school.

 

[cyndaquil]

So where did you learn to put them fancy letters together to form words that make up the sentences you are using to express your frustration about high-school?

you don't need english to be prepared for life just ask these foreigners

 

[42 Monks]

Well there are high schools that do have economics and personal finance courses I know because I was in one. I know high school isn't going to touch on every little aspect on adult life but part of the purpose of high school is to give you a sense of responsibility and teach you how to cope under stressful situations. That's why the whole "holding a students hand" thing is SUPPOSEDLY left behind in elementary/middle school. You're supposed to take it all in stride. High school is supposed to be this big responsibility factor in a young adults life where he/she learns the fundamentals of being an adult. Basically this is where you start to build character all the dilligence required to remain on top of school work athletics and what ever other activities you have going on at the time eventually accumulates into you becoming the stronger more capable version of you. This is what you use to find your way out in the real world... You apply your new found identity that you should have developed through years of work in high school to learning how things work in this world. When you're constantly pushing yourself under stressful situations you will eventually become a strategic problem solver.

The problem is there isn't a standard. You can't compare all high schools to the one's that have the ability to offer a finance class or even those that have counselors that have the free time to give a fukk. Obviously, if more did, there wouldn't be a generation of financially raped out there. You're really going on the assumption that everyone has the privilege to hit the ground running when for many american teenagers, they were running long before high school started and didn't know it - so they have no reason to believe that school is anything more than a chore and obligation.

I have no clue what school you came out of, but you really need to acknowledge that your institute of free learning and independently exploring student body is not a norm. Far from it.

The bolded in particular. I'm not gonna be quick and say that I think you're full of shyt because that dulls the point I'm trying to make. You're cognitively ignoring realities of others, and your own situation, while propping up your own beliefs in a what you feel is a system that propped you up. You're saying these things as high school would be the only thing going in on people's lives. I'll let you know first hand that its hard to go school when you've got a parent with huge medical issues (which is actually kinda common), got parents that need you as a source of income, got higher goals than what high school can immediately offer you in the next 5 years, dangerous home or school life, etc. These are all real American low to middle class issues that kinda go directly in the face of your idea that all of that just goes out the window because high school is a gateway to future or whatever you're on.

Get out of your shell. Not everyone's life was as clean as yours. Don't passively throw salt at others for not walking such a path as you. Especially when it simply was never an option for them to begin with.

edit: short version. high school isn't guaranteed to do shyt for you other than to hand you a degree and keep your parents out of trouble. everything else is on you and the people that give a fukk about you. get your diploma and go

 

[cyndaquil]

The problem is there isn't a standard. You can't compare all high schools to the one's that have the ability to offer a finance class or even those that have counselors that have the free time to give a fukk. Obviously, if more did, there wouldn't be a generation of financially raped out there. You're really going on the assumption that everyone has the privilege to hit the ground running when for many american teenagers, they were running long before high school started and didn't know it - so they have no reason to believe that school is anything more than a chore and obligation.

I have no clue what school you came out of, but you really need to acknowledge that your institute of free learning and independently exploring student body is not a norm. Far from it.

The bolded in particular. I'm not gonna be quick and say that I think you're full of shyt because that dulls the point I'm trying to make. You're cognitively ignoring realities of others, and your own situation, while propping up your own beliefs in a what you feel is a system that propped you up. You're saying these things as high school would be the only thing going in on people's lives. I'll let you know first hand that its hard to go school when you've got a parent with huge medical issues (which is actually kinda common), got parents that need you as a source of income, got higher goals than what high school can immediately offer you in the next 5 years, dangerous home or school life, etc. These are all real American low to middle class issues that kinda go directly in the face of your idea that all of that just goes out the window because high school is a gateway to future or whatever you're on.

Get out of your shell. Not everyone's life was as clean as yours. Don't passively throw salt at others for not walking such a path as you. Especially when it simply was never an option for them to begin with.

edit: short version. high school isn't guaranteed to do shyt for you other than to hand you a degree and keep your parents out of trouble. everything else is on you and the people that give a fukk about you. get your diploma and go

Right all schools aren't created equal or Rich people would send all their kids to public schools

 

[intruder]

you don't need english to be prepared for life just ask these foreigners

Who said anything about ENGLISH specifically?

Im a foreigner. I had to learn English at 15. English is my 3rd language. It's just a language

Point is illiteracy can hold you back in many ways int this world. Lack of secondary education can be a b!tch unless you're one of those that can, not just get by but overcome to do well without it. There arent of those out there. Let me guess: You think you're one of the special ones, huh?

As i say many times on this forum you spoiled ass american kids dont know how good you got it. Many kids around the world would kill their siblings to be in your shoes in your free public schools you consider sh!tty. So go ahead and be ungrateful with your million dollar schools and trillion billion dollar national education budgets. The average chinese and Indian kids are now running laps around your average american born/raised students. Keep that trend going and you'll see where it lands you.


Be grateful for what you got, f@ggot. Salute your star spangled flag and hug, kiss your mom and dad every day.

 

[Doobie Doo]

High School is the worst social environment that many people will ever experience in their lives Materialism to the max, standardized testing, home life that almost never meshes with social life where in the adult world the two will HAVE to go hand in hand (as in, you wouldn't meet the rich/poor kids from across the district if you weren't forced to be in the same building as them in school - never happens in adult life because you won't have shyt in common with them later so their mindset will always be irrelevant to you in the long run), emphasis on sports when its really nothing but a single entertainment aspect that has a price attached at the cost of other avenues and programs, staff inability to understand or even explain complex concepts to the greater student body because the support structure many times isn't capable of handling it outside of a case by case capacity, the people who don't have guidance from strong mentors/parents start their way down avoidable paths there, etc... I could go on.

But no, HS ain' shyt. And you're from Raleigh - imagine going to high school in Durham a few years back Those kids are fukked

But that's my point, your HS low key shaped who you are going to be simply because it's what creates your environment and you're a product of your environment. Imagine if Chris Rock wasn't bused to a poor white HS,what if he was bused to a better school? Would he have dropped out and became a comedian? Would he have graduated went to college and been something esle?

 

[12345A]

The problem is there isn't a standard. You can't compare all high schools to the one's that have the ability to offer a finance class or even those that have counselors that have the free time to give a fukk. Obviously, if more did, there wouldn't be a generation of financially raped out there. You're really going on the assumption that everyone has the privilege to hit the ground running when for many american teenagers, they were running long before high school started and didn't know it - so they have no reason to believe that school is anything more than a chore and obligation.

I have no clue what school you came out of, but you really need to acknowledge that your institute of free learning and independently exploring student body is not a norm. Far from it.

The bolded in particular. I'm not gonna be quick and say that I think you're full of shyt because that dulls the point I'm trying to make. You're cognitively ignoring realities of others, and your own situation, while propping up your own beliefs in a what you feel is a system that propped you up. You're saying these things as high school would be the only thing going in on people's lives. I'll let you know first hand that its hard to go school when you've got a parent with huge medical issues (which is actually kinda common), got parents that need you as a source of income, got higher goals than what high school can immediately offer you in the next 5 years, dangerous home or school life, etc. These are all real American low to middle class issues that kinda go directly in the face of your idea that all of that just goes out the window because high school is a gateway to future or whatever you're on.

Get out of your shell. Not everyone's life was as clean as yours. Don't passively throw salt at others for not walking such a path as you. Especially when it simply was never an option for them to begin with.

You've got a good point I know not every school gives a fukk about its students. But even the school I'm at only gave a fukk about us to a certain extent. Looking back on it we only got out what we put in. I'm sorry OP I didn't mean to neglect the fact that not everyone has the fortune of coming from a half way decent school. I thought you were one of these kids from the suburbs blaming the school system for the reason why so many people don't have a clue what to do. But to be fAir you never even mentioned all of your other problems in fact the point of this thread was to bash high school all the while not taking into account that not every high school is as shytty as you claim yours was. So maybe you actually need to come out of your shell and realize that high school isn't responsible for figuring life out for you. I hope you get well.

 

[42 Monks]

But that's my point, your HS low key shaped who you are going to be simply because it's what creates your environment and you're a product of your environment. Imagine if Chris Rock wasn't bused to a poor white HS,what if he was bused to a better school? Would he have dropped out and became a comedian? Would he have graduated went to college and been something esle?

High school didn't shape that. You're giving it too much credit. What you're talking about is the end of childhood and adolescence. Significant events at a pivotal point in life. It just happens to be that you're attending a high school at the same time.

As for the Chris Rock example.... Your point? Maybe he goes on to be a better Tyler Perry instead of a comedian. Maybe he doesn't. That's a pretty weak and flimsy point to run off of. On the other hand, you've got kids in 30+ student class rooms being told that they failed because they didn't try hard enough to succeed in life. You got college athletes that prove, definitively, that if they weren't freak athletes they would be starving or forced to do shyt they shouldn't as proved by SI's story on the homeless student athletes a while back. If they're in dire straights - then what about the guys without the 4.2 40yrd times?

I'm not saying that there are simply great schools and terrible schools (but its not too far from the truth), I am however saying that the only safe bet you can explain to kids is to get your shyt diploma or GED and learn how to teach yourself. That's more important than anything you can get in high school or college.

 

[SirReginald]

That shyt does not prepare you for the real world

I made a thread about this months back. Thank goodness I'm not the only one who agrees.