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Reality said:
So he fukking sold out you idiot. :mindblown: What are you not understanding? Christ.

Doing something contrary to your values or norms for financial gain is the definition of selling out. Are you retarded? :wtf:

Is that you RZA??? :wtf:
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Some things are worth more than money breh.

From what I'e observed about this Martin Skbveroiesb whatever character, he is the epitome of unliekable. He more than likely pays people to hang out with him. He's probably one of the main profitieers of the AIDS virus klilling the African population.

Selling this to him is like selling the Mona Lisa to Jeffrey Dahmer.

This is the epitome of selling out. This goes against EVERYTHING the Wu stands for especially the RZA. Especially considering his verse on "America (Is Dying Slowly)" about the AIDS virus being manufactured to kill black people.'

This Martin character is probably a racist piece of shyt too.

I'm sorry to embellish upon your post I highly agree with you but this gets me heated which is why I'm, further refraining from conversations about it I've already received one warning from the mods because of this.
 
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DrX said:
yup rza is full of shyt, he wanted to get paid and this guy seen it as an opportunity to get into the culture.....he can actually thrive in this culture because its moraless anyway, hes going to use that to destroy for fun

if rza cared about the fans he wouldve set it at a affordable price point but he was looking to finesse the high art world who spend crazy money on bs, but it backfired ....now he give a sociopath a entrance through the door
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None of this actually happened. Stop giving this clown press. If he wants a 2milli coaster that's on him. What entrance does this dude have he is just sitting on one unheard album that might suck.

Nikkaz always hating on the wu here anyway this ain't new. Let the coli tell.it only cacs fukk.with em so this was within reason

Someone hack dude get the music if he rips it and the world moves on and he is left with some expensive packaging
 
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Piff Perkins said:
Can't find it right now but Rae said they didn't know a Wu album was being made, they thought it was for Ringz. He said the Clan isn't involved in the process, which I assume means they ain't getting paid.
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i believe it

all the shyt they've been talking about rza, it seems like wu tang would function much better without him at this point

meth, rae, ghost, gza and all them could make a great album right now
 
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Times like this it feels good to be a Bone Thugs stan and not a Wu stan:banderas:



"Bone Thugs-n-harmony were considering selling their final group album for $1 million — until they realized that $1 million isn’t enough. Now, after some careful reconsideration and serious math, BTNH are looking for 10 times the price.

“A million dollars is not enough. So, we’ll make the product and we’ll try to get $10 million for it,” the group’s longtime manager Steve Lobel told HipHopDX. “There’s a lot of billionaires around the world that might just say, ‘You know what? I’m gonna do it just to do it.’ They have nothing else to do with their money. They just wanna be cool.”

francis::Maaaan its time to just start ignoring my old favorites before they have a chance to disappoint me:mjcry:
 
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For those wondering about the process of this album, it was chronicled on The Coli here:

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/monster-wu-project-thread-cont.8787/

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/monster-wu-project-thread-cont.8787/best-posts

which, thanks to Funcrusher's cut/pasting them from to this site, there are posts from Cilvaringz from Wu-Corp that he since deleted that are saved on this board like this:


I know it's confusing so let me say it like this. Originally, the album was going to be a Heavy Mentwo for Killer Priest if you can recall me talking about wanting to do that for the longest. That didn't work out but I kept producing and got into a zone where the beats were really starting to sound proper.

So then the investor pops up, I get a bunch of money and freedom to make my dream Wu album which wasn't necessarily a Clan album at that point, nor a Killa Beez compilation. It was more of a combination of both, well the idea was. I just let the beats dictate who I should get on there. That's how those line ups formed.

So as we were working and recording, the album started to look like it could be a Clan album. Not a Clan album the general public is used of hearing, but more of a Clan album that the fans would love to hear, one where the Clan interacts with the elite killer beez over vintage sounding Clan beats. And so that's what it became.

When it became clear that The Clan was having issues in trying to come to terms for a 20th anniversary album, the prospect of my album becoming the Clan's album became even stronger.

But RZA was never told about the recording of this album. I had some verses from him that he gave me on some of the beats maybe a month before I actually started working on this. So concepts for songs with RZA were built around what RZA did, not around what I wanted to do or others. That way we kept each song in check.

I didnt talk to RZA about this on purpose because first of all I hate talking bout what I want to do. I rather say shyt when it's already done. Also, I always like presenting projects completely done. Partly because I don't want third parties' interference on the direction of the album, so when an album's done and mastered there's not much they can do about it. And secondly, if RZA or whomever did like it, we could immediately go into releasing it and not be held back by "oh we still gotta mix this, or get a photoshoot and bla bla".

That's how I work.

So regarding RZA, I didn't really want him to know about it at all, not until I was completely finished. But because they had that disagreement on the tourbus a few weeks back, Raekwon told him about it. Rae is the only one who knows the most about this album.

The rest recorded verses on beats obviously sticking to the concepts I told them, but not knowing what the outcome of each song would be. For example, Deck wouldn't know U-God was on the same track as well as Killa, Meth, Red. Nobody knows about this superstar on the track neither, only Redman and Raekwon.

But I always knew the structure of each song, way before we even recorded it. You must have a final vision of a song before you start on it so you know what you're working towards.

So out of loyalty to RZA, considering the minimal chances of the Clan themselves coming to terms for a 20th ann LP, I feel obliged to offer RZA a first option on the album. But RZA could easily not like the album calling it dated, or say too many samples we gotta digitize (which is a no-no), he could want 50% or more (also a no-no). There's all kinds of possibilities that could happen. I usually do follow his lead and when I don't agree I still force myself to agree with him cause in the end this is his brand. But not for this album. For this one I'm striving for a 100% of my demands. And for the sake of us, the fans and for the sake of my efforts and for the sake of this brand itself, I have to a point in life where I feel that we as fans can now dictate what is best for this brand, better than the brand holders themselves. As selfish and arrogant as that might seem, I really believe that the fans have a better idea/vision for the prospect of the W, than the Clan themselves. It's because we know what we want to hear.

So this meeting with RZA can go well, or it can go sour. If it goes sour it means I will be restricted, mostly legally. I therefore had to build a plan around this possibility in order to safe guard this album's prospects and maximum potential for if I had to release it myself. That plan became agood idea and at the same time, provided somewhat of a revolutionary aspect to it that could give my name some leverage in the history of music. Could also horribly fail.

So lets see how it plays out.
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This album started as a pay per verse for guest-spots (including various verses he already had recorded for his Sophomore album which never came about, hence having the ODB vocals) then a compilation and then became a whole different animal when they tried to brand it as a proper Wu-Tang Clan album. And the reason so many on that board are pissed about it is he included them in the process, asked their opinions/feedback, updated them every step of the way and then told them no one's ever going to hear it.

The whole reason SoulController was able to post that tracklisting at the top of the "most daps" breakdown of that thread? Cilvaringz would update the board once a week with a new MC line-up from one of the tracks of the album. You can even see it in action at the beginning of the thread as people post the updates here.

DISK 1
01. Intro - Raekwon The Chef
02. Inspectah Deck, Killer Priest, Killa Sin, Street Life & Method Man
03. U-God, Ghostface Killer, Scientific Shabazz, Killer Priest, Killa Sin & Raekwon The Chef
04. Skit – Part I [Interlude] feat. Prince Rakeem “The RZA”, Ghost, Sin, Rae, U-God [All back vocals]
05. Ghostface Killer, LA The Darkman, Raekwon The Chef, Killa Sin & 12 O'Clock
06. U-God aka Goldenarmz
07. Method Man, Redman, Raekwon The Chef, Inspectah Deck, U-God & Masta Killa
08. The Weeping Tiger feat. Inspectah Deck, Raekwon The Chef, Ghostface Killer & Prince Rakeem “The RZA”
09. Masta Killa, Killer Priest & Shyheim
10. GZA/Genius, Inspectah Deck & Raekwon [Hook]
11. Poppa Wu, Inspectah Deck, Killa Sin & Scientific Shabazz
12. Prince Rakeem “The RZA” & U-God
13. Skit – Part II [Interlude] feat. Prince Rakeem “The RZA” & TBA
14. Interlude [movie]
15. In The Name Of Allah feat. Masta Killa, Killer Priest, Scientific Shabazz, Prince Rakeem “The RZA” & Cilvaringz
16. [Rainy Dayz II] feat. Ghostface Killer & Raekwon The Chef

DISK 2
17. [Intro] feat. Inspectah Deck & Chef Raekwon
18. Ol' Dirty b*stard, Scientific Shabazz, Prodigal Son, 12 O'Clock & Zoo Keeper
19. Cappachino & Vanessa Liftig
20. Scientific Shabazz, Prodigal Son, Beretta 9, Killa Sin & U-God
21. U-God aka Goldenarmz & Poppa Wu
22. Raekwon The Chef, Prince Rakeem “The RZA”, U-God, Killer Priest
23. Raekwon The Chef, Masta Killa & Method Man
24. Prince Rakeem “The RZA”, Cappachino, 12 O’Clock & Poppa Wu
25. Ghostface Killer, Raekwon The Chef & Tekitha
26. Inspectah Deck, Ghostface Killer, Cappachino, Killer Priest & Scientific Shabazz
27. Prince Rakeem “The RZA” + background vocals by Killer Priest & Raekwon The Chef
28. Diary Of A Mad Woman feat. Featherz, Tekitha, Frukwan The Gatekeeper & Prince Rakeem “The RZA” [Shabazz, Priest intro]
29. Scientific Shabazz & Killer Priest
30. Outro [movie]
31. Instrumental Outro
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So imagine years of being told by the person making it this album was being made with the fans in mind, asking for their input, playing them beats and snippets, doing a half year campaign of revealing track lineups for them and then telling them they can never hear it? That's why there's such venom towards him in general by most who were in the know throughout the making of this project.

Then you start this campaign where this is all about reclaiming music as "art" and how there's no value in music anymore and music should be revered and precious and rare and how this will bring back people taking music seriously.

And then you undermine that entire concept/sales pitch by selling it to the goddamn devil who uses it to collect beer sweat.
 
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1984 said:
Some things are worth more than money breh.

From what I'e observed about this Martin Skbveroiesb whatever character, he is the epitome of unliekable. He more than likely pays people to hang out with him. He's probably one of the main profitieers of the AIDS virus klilling the African population.

Selling this to him is like selling the Mona Lisa to Jeffrey Dahmer.

This is the epitome of selling out. This goes against EVERYTHING the Wu stands for especially the RZA. Especially considering his verse on "America (Is Dying Slowly)" about the AIDS virus being manufactured to kill black people.'

This Martin character is probably a racist piece of shyt too.

I'm sorry to embellish upon your post I highly agree with you but this gets me heated which is why I'm, further refraining from conversations about it I've already received one warning from the mods because of this.
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