One Drop Rule: How Should We Define Being Black In America

[Cadillac]

I'm not concerned about diaspora wars. I'm talking about the concept of blackness in a global sense

something that we brought nuance to

without ADOS the idea of "black" would just apply to those who are dark. so if thats what you meant then fine. But thats not how its defined here.

An African or carribean person gets his or her introduction to blackness when they come to a country where they are not the majority. Racism is intricately linked to the black experience.

the black american experience does not apply to them, africans and caribbeans they go through the immigrant minority experience if anything. Africans and caribbeans have more in common with other immigrants that are minorities like Mexicans than us.

There is a reason why on a list of racial slurs black people have the most derogatory terms to describe us. Anti blackness is global. Africans understand what white people think of them because there are people alive who remember colonial governments. Black people in the US know what white people think of them because we experience it when we are out here. You know you're black the way non black and black people treat you.

and there are slurs used by africans against us

@bolded: doesnt make sense as Africans treat each other like shyt, so do Caribbeans do to each other

Blackness is largely dependent on skin tone and overall lineage. Who is considered black has become so diluted that we are in a situation where people like Rachel Dolezal can infiltrate and pretend to represent us because we've decided to make it a big tent thing.

all wrong if your talking about american "blackness" as created by us. its defined and about ADOS people and its what we go by hence people who are not dark, mixed and so on are "black" here in America.

Are you even ADOS?

 

[Cadillac]

How do you even come to these conclusions, lol at Non Ados questioning brown skinned Ados peoples ‘blackness’ where is that?

And are you stupid enough to believe every non ados black person is dark skin?

Lori harvey had alot of them nonados chicks questioning her blackness and calling her exotic(as the reason MBJ is with her) when it was released she was with MBJ. With chicks alluding to him being a colorist and how she is only just bright enough to get him and a whole slew of babble.

you had them also say remarks about beyonce and her skin tone when someone asked if she was queen of africa.

Alot if not most of the nonados people here in America are dark skin, are there some who arent? of course, but a huge portion of them are you idiot. Are we gonna pretend and act like they are not alot of times NonAdos people who arent even dark are at best in the border between dark brown and a medium shade. with a very few being light brown or lightskin but they are not rare in quantity

we can even make a poll right now and ask most nonados people here if they are dark skin or nah

 

[Budda]

Lori harvey had alot of them nonados chicks questioning her blackness and calling her exotic(as the reason MBJ is with her) when it was released she was with MBJ. With chicks alluding to him being a colorist and how she is only just bright enough to get him and a whole slew of babble.

you had them also say remarks about beyonce and her skin tone when someone asked if she was queen of africa.

Alot if not most of the nonados people here in America are dark skin, are there some who arent? of course a huge portion of them are you idiot. Are we gonna pretend and act like they are not

How do you know these women are mostly non ados though, where and how do you come to these conclusions is what I’m asking? I haven’t seen a person in my 20 something years on this earth who’s said Beyoncé ain’t black lol...

I don’t get your last point either, for example I don’t think the majority of Ethiopians in America are dark skin, West Africans and Carribean Yh.

 

[96Blue]

I'm not concerned about diaspora wars. I'm talking about the concept of blackness in a global sense. An African or carribean person gets his or her introduction to blackness when they come to a country where they are not the majority. Racism is intricately linked to the black experience. There is a reason why on a list of racial slurs black people have the most derogatory terms to describe us. Anti blackness is global. Africans understand what white people think of them because there are people alive who remember colonial governments. Black people in the US know what white people think of them because we experience it when we are out here. You know you're black the way non black and black people treat you.

Blackness is largely dependent on skin tone and overall lineage. Who is considered black has become so diluted that we are in a situation where people like Rachel Dolezal can infiltrate and pretend to represent us because we've decided to make it a big tent thing.

There is no such thing as "global Blackness", nobody else beside us identify with Blackness within itself, excluding some Jamaicans, even then, they still identify as Jamaican.

 

[Cadillac]

How do you know these women are mostly non ados though, where and how do you come to these conclusions is what I’m asking? I haven’t seen a person in my 20 something years on this earth who’s said Beyoncé ain’t black lol...

The beyonce thing was easy given it was mostly Africans. Lori harvey to with flag twitter letting them be easily known. LSA is mostly nonADOS so lets not act like its not easy to know how these foreign hoes think.

I don’t get your last point either, for example I don’t think the majority of Ethiopians in America are dark skin, West Africans and Carribean Yh

your so full of shyt , more than half of nonados people undoubtely are dark skin, those who arent are alot of times dark brown. I remember they threw a Ghanian event at Paz Cantina( a club/bar here in Phoenix) and it was full of dark skin Ghanian people.

you had a few nondark but they were all practically dark or dark brown in that bytch.

 

[Budda]

[

The beyonce thing was easy given it was mostly Africans. Lori harvey to with flag twitter letting them be easily known. LSA is mostly nonADOS so lets not act like its not easy to know how these foreign hoes think.

your so full of shyt , more than half of nonados people undoubtely are dark skin, those who arent are alot of times dark brown. I remember they threw a Ghanian event at Paz Cantina( a club/bar here in Phoenix) and it was full of dark skin Ghanian people.

you had a few nondark but they were all practically dark or dark brown in that bytch.

I don’t read the LSA, is that what you base you findings on LSA

How am I full of shyt, I said west Africans and Caribbean’s but for example a lot of Ethiopians in America wouldn’t be considered dark skin. Also Ghanaians tend to be darker on average than say for example the tribe Giannis comes from Igbos, and there’s a bunch of lighter brown skinned Caribbean’s for example Farrakhan.

 

[Captain Crunch]

[


I don’t read the LSA, is that what you base you findings on LSA

How am I full of shyt, I said west Africans and Caribbean’s but for example a lot of Ethiopians in America wouldn’t be considered dark skin. Also Ghanaians tend to be darker on average than say for example the tribe Giannis comes from Igbos, and there’s a bunch of lighter brown skinned Caribbean’s for example Farrakhan.

Most Africans are dark, plus we don't really trip on skin color anymore(Serena; Angela Bassett, Trey Songz, Terrell Owens, and Denzel were all sex symbols in BA society)

 

[IllmaticDelta]

There is no such thing as "global Blackness", nobody else beside us identify with Blackness within itself, excluding some Jamaicans, even then, they still identify as Jamaican.

Nah, there definitely is a "global blackness" but it's all based on ADOS' conception of it...as I pointed out here as it related to the global Pan-African agenda

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/one...-black-in-america.840235/page-7#post-41405482

but unlike all non-ADOS "blacks", who are late comers to the concept, Afram identity is inextricably tied to it

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/the...how-its-tied-to-afroamerican-identity.327574/

 

[IllmaticDelta]

How do you know these women are mostly non ados though, where and how do you come to these conclusions is what I’m asking? I haven’t seen a person in my 20 something years on this earth who’s said Beyoncé ain’t black lol...

.

Pretty much every person I've heard say that beyonce isn't racially black was African or Caribbean....I can't think of the thread right now but some non-ados black said Whitney Houston was light skinned

 

[Cadillac]

[


I don’t read the LSA, is that what you base you findings on LSA

How am I full of shyt, I said west Africans and Caribbean’s but for example a lot of Ethiopians in America wouldn’t be considered dark skin. Also Ghanaians tend to be darker on average than say for example the tribe Giannis comes from Igbos, and there’s a bunch of lighter brown skinned Caribbean’s for example Farrakhan.

LSA is just one, there are other examples from Facebook groups i been in and real life interaction ad dialogue
Plus LSA is literally one of the biggest "black" forums and has a big portion of its lunatics out loose in social media and life. Your bound to come across narratives from them somewhere who btw some are real.

@bolded: africas like Ethiopians and caribbeans of the sort are the minority. The overwhelming majority of Africans/Caribbeans come from countries where the people are mostly dark.

Yes you have those tribes that people like Giannis is from that are light brown. But they are a minority.

 

[Cadillac]

Pretty much every person I've heard say that beyonce isn't racially black was African or Caribbean....I can't think of the thread right now but some non-ados black said Whitney Houston was light skinned

(
Those NonADOS hoes like on LSA, call Beyonce a "MGM"(multigeneration mixed)

they apply that label(MGM) to alot of black americans who are brown let alone light which is idiotic alot of ADOS has admixture

 

[IllmaticDelta]

(
Those NonADOS hoes like on LSA, call Beyonce a "MGM"(multigeneration mixed)

they apply that label(MGM) to alot of black americans who are brown let alone light which is idiotic alot of ADOS has admixture

Yeah, I saw/see that too over there which makes no sense because ADOS is a MGM (meaning old admixture recombined through generations) population by default and has been seen that way since slavery times

 

[Cadillac]

Yeah, I saw/see that too over there which makes no sense because ADOS is a MGM (meaning old admixture recombined through generations) population by default in has been seen that way since slavery times

which is why i said what i said about how these opportunist are trying to push out certain types of people of being "black" and "black american"

rn these people are trying to place light and biracial blacks as just "biracial"

and now you got them placing black americans like beyonce and others with similar ancestrial makeup as "MGM"

Soon these people will start calling any black american as MGM as a way to try to denounce them as black. Cause of our admixture.

They do this already with any black american that they find out has NonAfrican DNA in them.

these people are just going around to each tier and type of black american, labeling and putting black americans in places(MGM) when THEY have no right to. they are not even black american.

and their doing this for a reason.

thats why alot of these people like to center parameters of blackness like being based on African "Purity", and being dark. Cause basing blackness on stuff like this benefits them.

And that's what it's about to seize benefits

 

[Secure Da Bag]

If you look black then society sees you as black BUT I do agree that people with 2 black parents should be grouped separate from people with only one

not on some enemy shyt, it just isn’t the same

We definitely need to stop calling quarter blacks black though, like IMMEDIATELY

The problem is you still have to define black. You have lightskin Black people with 2 lightskin Black parents saying they are 100% Black. So if you have a quarter-Black who looks Black, you still denying them?

 

[Premeditated]

The one drop rule actually the thing that kept all of us together in this country.

Whereas in Brazil or South America you have mixed people acting like they’re their own shyt and look down on their black side. Serving as a buffer class to solidify white supremacy and muddy the struggles of black people.

At least here in this country - you will get humbled, you black. We in this shyt together no matter how “light” you are. No avoiding the struggle.

Hell, someone like Malcom X wouldn’t exist in South America - he’d be a Moreno hanging out in circles on the outliers of whiteness.

but there is actually way more legit mix race people in Brazil though. they surpass the black population. the black population is only 7% while the mix population is at 35-45%. they look visibly mix too. Brazil literally had a whitening century.
alot of the mix people in Brazil have a huge chunk of indigenous in them. Like Ronaldino or Casermiro. You'll see alot of these types on the favelas.