One Drop Rule: How Should We Define Being Black In America

[Alvin]

Why would tiger claim black when he isn't?

But dude has no acknowledgement of his black side

 

[kevm3]

Honestly, who really cares? The same guys screaming this super black purity stuff will be the first ones to do backflips if a pretty yella passes by and be ready to create 'non-black' kids in their own mind.

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

@Scustin Bieburr where would you put Tiger Woods and Dwayne Johnson?

Tiger woods physically appears black in a sport dominated by white people. Hes had the black experience but is a c00n and is in denial of racism. Hes black to me, but a c00n. If he could pass for something else, he wouldn't have experienced anti black racism. Hes the inverse of Obama who experienced racism and concluded that it is a threat to him and his family rather than pretending it doesn't exist. Moreover Obama is fully choosing to embrace blackness, while tiger is doing his best to run from it. The rock isn't really black to me. He doesn't talk about that at length as an important part of his heritage. Hes got all the Samoan ink but no African tattoos as far as I know. Plus the fact that he fux with the republican party puts him firmly in the "off white" category for me.

Why would tiger claim black when he isn't?

He probably does when convenient.

 

[im_sleep]

People really over exaggerate the usage of the one-drop rule in the present time.

Those Walter Francis White type of folks barely exist anymore, most eventually fell in line and so the bloodlines got Blacker. The rest passed for White or Indian.

Yeah it ain’t perfect but I’ll take it over that divide and conquer buffer class shyt other folks had to deal with.

 

[seabreeze80]

Tiger a c00n to me, dude never claimed black. Rock is mixed bag imo, he was in the NOD but bc it’s wrestling it was promo. Never heard him say anything c00nish but it’s obvious he has is closer to his Samoan heritage or maybe he feels he can milk it more. He doesn’t talk on black issues but he doesn’t have to (rather a lot of black celebrities did this, instead of looking two faced or just ignorant)

I'm only posting this because you said he does not speak on black issues.



He is biracial. I do not consider him black but he speaks on black issues.

 

[Alvin]

I'm only posting this because you said he does not speak on black issues.



He is biracial. I do not consider him black but he speaks on black issues.

Eh, well you got me. But I feel like a lot of celebrities even full black ones used last year as a way of generating good PR. But I just feel like he’s the rock before anything else.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Race is determined by phenotype and how others see you that’s it.

Look black=black

look non-black = not black

Race has no scientific base if it did almost every African American would be labeled “mixed”

So Drake is Arab

 

[96Blue]

Honestly, my opinion on this topic switches multiple times, but historically, biracial have always stood side by side with us, so yes they're Black.

By the way, you Non-ADOS/FBA don't get to dictate who is Black over here in America. You can do that shyt in your homelands, but not in ours. Biracial Black people had our backs more than y'all ever have. FACTS.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

People really over exaggerate the usage of the one-drop rule in the present time.

Those Walter Francis White type of folks barely exist anymore, most eventually fell in line and so the bloodlines got Blacker. The rest passed for White or Indian.

Yeah it ain’t perfect but I’ll take it over that divide and conquer buffer class shyt other folks had to deal with.

the true one drop doesn't exist anyone more because if it did, there would be like 20-40 million more afroamericans in the USA but who are instead "white americans"

 

[96Blue]

its the usual suspects in threads like these

insecure females who dislike lightskin/biracial black american women, Corny Pan africanist, Hoteps, and Feminist Pandering Black male militants who believe in a bunch of mumbo jumbo but dont know shyt about ADOS history


so honestly its not even just Nonados nikkas(though they play a good part of partaking in this mess), theres some ADOS people who be out here looking stupid to.

Now as for Nonados biracials like say the Mowry Twins who come from a Bahamian mother? I dont care(just like i dont care about their mono racial nonados counterparts). To me only the ADOS Biracials count and are Black

I agree with this.

 

[Alvin]

What point are you getting at in the bolded?

my point was a rebuttal at you saying that mixed race people may have had it harder or that field/house division didn't exist. Look at it this way, I'm not saying all biracials are a member of a buffer class but the point is they had opportunity to be free or at least live a life not as harsh as if they were full blooded black, you can include this with the whole field/house debate, one has a slightly better arrangement out of the two and the ones in the field will feel slighted because they think they are getting preferential treatment, this creates resentment and division. Now obviously it didn't work to the effect of Brazil in 2021 but the point was that was the plan and that's what they wanted.

 

[96Blue]

By the way, I don't know if anybody in this thread brought this up, but Light skinned Black people are not mixed, my mom and aunties are light skinned and I'm dark skinned. Nobody in my family now is "mixed", Chattel Slavery will do that to your family.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

my point was a rebuttal at you saying that mixed race people may have had it harder or that field/house division didn't exist. Look at it this way, I'm not saying all biracials are a member of a buffer class but the point is they had opportunity to be free or at least live a life not as harsh as if they were full blooded black, you can include this with the whole field/house debate, one has a slightly better arrangement out of the two and the ones in the field will feel slighted because they think they are getting preferential treatment, this creates resentment and division. Now obviously it didn't work to the effect of Brazil in 2021 but the point was that was the plan and that's what they wanted.

The parts that you bolded didn't disprove anything

Thus, children born to slave mothers were born into slavery, regardless of who their fathers were and whether they were baptized as Christians. Children born to white mothers were free, even if they were mixed-race. Children born to free mixed-race mothers were also free.

. She was three-quarters white and the half-sister of his late wife; their children, born into slavery, were seven-eighths white. Jefferson gave the four surviving children their freedom as adults; three assimilated into white society.

there were free dark skinned blacks who were prosperous

and mixed race slaves who suffered in bondage

the slaves that YOU think had a better situation over field hands couldn't be any further from the truth. The mammy servant who was a house slave

had more restrictions than the field slave and was more at risk to be preyed on/raped by white men

that's exactly what happened to Sally Hemmings and also her "pure" african grandmother

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

The one drop rule actually the thing that kept all of us together in this country.

Whereas in Brazil or South America you have mixed people acting like they’re their own shyt and look down on their black side. Serving as a buffer class to solidify white supremacy and muddy the struggles of black people.

At least here in this country - you will get humbled, you black. We in this shyt together no matter how “light” you are. No avoiding the struggle.

Hell, someone like Malcom X wouldn’t exist in South America - he’d be a Moreno hanging out in circles on the outliers of whiteness.

This 100%.

Whatever colorism issues we have in America, dark/brown/light skinned folks usually are treated as "black" which has allowed us to move more cohesively.

Latin America has so many different colors and tiers, it's nuts.

Keep in mind that less than 5% of all enslaved Africans made it to North America. The vast majority ended up in the Caribbean, Central & South America. White always outnumbered us in the United States....so they had no problem treating us mostly the same.

In the Caribbean and Latin America, enslaved blacks had big numbers so the whites (mainly Spanish) needed a way to create division.

 

[King]

This 100%.

Whatever colorism issues we have in America, dark/brown/light skinned folks usually are treated as "black" which has allowed us to move more cohesively.

Latin America has so many different colors and tiers, it's nuts.

Keep in mind that less than 5% of all enslaved Africans made it to North America. The vast majority ended up in the Caribbean, Central & South America. White always outnumbered us in the United States....so they had no problem treating us mostly the same.

In the Caribbean and Latin America, enslaved blacks had big numbers so the whites (mainly Spanish) needed a way to create division.

Yup. And a lot of Africans and non-ADOS people come here with their colonized and tribal mindsets. Quick to tell us how to run shyt like they been here 400 years.