One has to go: Beyonce, Whitney, Mariah, Adele

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The Coli "people back then ain't fukk with Whitney"

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I think it was a bit far fetched and hyperbolic to say we were not fukking wit Whitney prior to the 90’s, but with that said, the response she received at the 1989 Soul Train awards was not that far off the mark as well. I can safely say I heard my parents play way more Anita, Patti, Stephanie Mills, Sade and etc in the 80’s than Whitney. Her talent was acknowledged, but some did feel her music was too ‘glossy’ and whitewashed back then :whoa: Respectfully.
 

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Meaning something like Madonna.Who I think is boring az hell, but I bet she probably sells out more stadiums than Beyonce & Adele combined.Established brands & cult personalities with stans who live vicariously through their every move.
So now she’s like Madonna when you just called her the female MJ in another post
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Why can’t she just be Beyoncé? Say what you want about her but she’s been the standard in her profession for two decades. Is she the best vocally? Of course not. But she’s an amazing singer in her own right and is one of the goat artists
 

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Obviously I'm not talking about the dog shyt singers.We're talking about the greats who have the ability to do both.Beyonce can sing, but I don't pick up any real pain.She feels manufactured to me in that regard.Which is why I don't really vibe with her.Do I think she's dog shyt? Ni.Far from it.Just a lil plastic.That's all.
Why a mf gotta sound like they bout to die singing to be considered a great vocalist .. wtf that’s retarded. I don’t understand that line of thinking. So beyonce gotta simulate labor pains on stage on some “it’s ripping my soul apart to get through this song” to make us feel something.. is pain the only emotions? What about the other feelings that her singing expresses.. joy, rage/anger, euphoria.. nope jus agony and heartbreak.. :russ:
 
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I think it was a bit far fetched and hyperbolic to say we were not fukking wit Whitney prior to the 90’s, but with that said, the response she received at the 1989 Soul Train awards was not that far off the mark as well. I can safely say I heard my parents play way more Anita, Patti, Stephanie Mills, Sade and etc in the 80’s than Whitney. Her talent was acknowledged, but some did feel her music was too ‘glossy’ and whitewashed back then :whoa: Respectfully.
Man fukk all that.We know what Whitney was capable of when she got up on that stage.She was spilling over with soul & charisma.Anybody standing next to her was in trouble.If anything, her record label/handlers watered her down in the 80's.They tried to make her too wholesome when Whitney was a real one.She should've snatched the mic from Clive, loosened her collar, and had a real nicca moment like Eddie Cane in the 5 Heart Beats.
 

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I think it was a bit far fetched and hyperbolic to say we were not fukking wit Whitney prior to the 90’s, but with that said, the response she received at the 1989 Soul Train awards was not that far off the mark as well. I can safely say I heard my parents play way more Anita, Patti, Stephanie Mills, Sade and etc in the 80’s than Whitney. Her talent was acknowledged, but some did feel her music was too ‘glossy’ and whitewashed back then :whoa: Respectfully.
Everybody knew Whitney could sing her ass off. That has NEVER been up for debate. But let’s put it like this. I was way more likely to hear her music at the dentist office than at a cookout. I don’t remember anybody ever saying let’s listen to I Wanna Dance With Somebody or Be My Baby Tonite. And yes I remember her getting booed at the Soul Train Awards as well
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Man fukk all that.We know what Whitney was capable of when she got up on that stage.She was spilling over with soul & charisma.Anybody standing next to her was in trouble.If anything, her record label/handlers watered her down in the 80's.They tried to make her too wholesome when Whitney was a real one.She should've snatched the mic from Clive, loosened her collar, and had a real nicca moment like Eddie Cane in the 5 Heart Beats.

Whitney was a puppet who had no control over her career.. she was also the greatest vocalist to ever live. It is what it is.
 
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Why a mf gotta sound like they bout to die singing to be considered a great vocalist .. wtf that’s retarded. I don’t understand that line of thinking. So beyonce gotta simulate labor pains on stage on some “it’s ripping my soul apart to get through this song” to make us feel something.. is pain the only emotions? What about the other feelings that her singing expresses.. joy, rage/anger, euphoria.. nope jus agony and heartbreak.. :russ:
Those are your interpretations of what pain is my brotha.It doesn't have to get that drastic:pachaha:
 

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Those are your interpretations of what pain is my brotha.It doesn't have to get that drastic:pachaha:

No one judges musical/vocal ability like that in the actual art/craft of singing.. you know how many shytty emotive singers there are? Every church mother/grandmother have that same painful the world is ending well.. that has nothing to do with your actual skill/ability as a vocalist. You don’t get brownie points for struggling through a song cause your bout to cry breh.
 
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So now she’s like Madonna when you just called her the female MJ in another post
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Why can’t she just be Beyoncé? Say what you want about her but she’s been the standard in her profession for two decades. Is she the best vocally? Of course not. But she’s an amazing singer in her own right and is one of the goat artists
I'm just comparing marketing approaches & career paths.To me, MJ, Bey, and Madonna are at the top of the pyramid when it comes mainstream plastic acts.They're the 3 giants.Especially Madonna.More spectacle than substance.Mikes the GOAT of it.I have the strongest connection with him due to nostalgia, so it pains me to say that.Regardless, he's the GOAT.Thriller will probably cross my mind right before I die.
 

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My post ain got nun to do with Beyoncé.. I didn’t compare the two at all.. wasn’t a big fan of either of their music tbh

I was jus talking bout Whitney in general as a artist. Her discography is overrated.. stale and overall mid.. Clive had her making boring, bland dry AC ballads for most of her career and no one really listens to her music outside of that soundtrack and maybe shoop.. and nobody knows or listen to that shyt today unless u over 45.
By the 00s it was easy to see how mediocre and how bad Whitney’s musical output has been for the majority of her career which is why outside her classic singles mostly coming from Bodyguard nobody really fukkin with her catalog heavy like that. Like I said the black community of that time regularly shytted on Whitney for being whitewashed

I was comparing Beyonce and Whitney based on their disco. I said that Whitey first album is better that any album in Beyonce discography.

Whitney went full pop with her second album but the first one is a gem.

And when it comes to talent, there is no debate: Whitney is above.
 

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Beyonce the weakest vocalist of all the ones listed but got the strongest discography.
not with mariah carey on that list.

i don't listen to adele to say, and whitney have classics which others say beyonce lacks
 
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