One second you're arguing with your neighbor, the next second you are getting murdered

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I read the thread title and thought of that husband and wife who got mowed down in the snow.
Man, I still remember that video.
They were so out of pocket and kept saying shyt as they were being killed :mjlol:

Man just lost his wife if I remember correctly so they figured it was time to let em know how they felt about em.

He reciprocated.
 

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I wasn't talking about from a court of law POV. I'm talking about from a everyday life, don't wanna kill someone POV.

Plus I'm sure any competent lawyer could make a solid enough case that the "brandishing" was for self defence purposes.



So you would rather shoot someone dead and ruin multiple lives instead of pulling it out to let them know 'look bruh, I can end this right here if I have to'? Only a suicidal idiot is still gonna throw hands at you at that point.

You dont understand the responsibility of owning a firearm.

It is a tool for last resort. You only draw your weapon with an intent to neutralize a threat or destroy a target.

If you are pulling it out with the intent that someone is going to obtain some sense of clarity or cool down, realize the error of their ways, that wasn't an imminent threat.

At that point don't even pull out a gun, just tell them "I have a gun! I'll shoot you!"

Look up the 4 rules of firearms safety.
 

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That's 100% of the population. Nobody knows what's gonna happen going about their day. That's why you're supposed to practice diffusing situations and settle disputes like an adult. Getting angry and hollering can make things worse and that's what happened in this situation.


And no, I'm not taking good with the bad. I'll be single peaceful bald incel monk before I have to deal with a woman who can't control herself. You can keep that.

First off getting angry is a natural human behavior. Unless you plan on dating or marrying an AI sex bot at some point in your life your spouse is going to get angry, and yes they will raise their voice.

Secondly monks are not incels. If you want to be an incels because you are scared of women and the situations they can put you in :manny: that's fine.

If you want to be a monk and vow not to have personal relationships as a way to obtain clarity and become one with the universe, I fully support you and your journey.

Incels and monks are not the same.
 

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Red shirt should have kept his hands to himself but blue shirt was itching to use that gun. Blue shirt had it loaded and rady to go before the other guy even left his house.:francis:

Premeditated

Blue shirt getting gassed. Doesn't matter that red shirt swung, he was ready to use it the whole time. Man swings, misses, has a chance to think for a second, and then gets shot. And shot. And shot and shot and shot and shot and shot etc.

This was never self defense as he was ready for that action and needlessly made sure pink shirt was gone-gone. fukk him and whatever happens to him happens.

Dude in the blue is a bytch. He was just looking to kill that man. Homie in the red wasn’t a threat at all, he was unarmed. Yes, he should’ve never swung but come on now. Blasting him was ridiculous.

Yeah, this is straight up murder. He definitely needs to be put away.

Red shirt was a small looking dude with a very weak swing at that. The gun was completely unnecessary.

Dude was just itching to kill.

Should have deescalated the situation by going inside with his wife. Instead he had the gun ready to go and dikk on hard.

exactly...dude was waiting for a reason to kill. dude even cocked back the gun before engaging in the argument...:dead:

We all saw him get his weapon ready, but I swear that gun just appeared in his hand like a video game. He been wanting to do that shyt, a good lawyer will get him probation and anger management classes

Both of them lost their life over a fukking water faucet and women running their mouth that led their husband dead and jail :smh:

Plus she knew her husband was carrying. And yet she still escalated the situation knowing this.

Could’ve just let the chickens argue it out or square up like a man and run the fade instead of being a p*ssy agro dude looking to shoot the first thing he could.

He baited him so he had an excuse to shoot.
Didn't even try to protect himself.
Just went for the kill.
He been dreaming of this day.

Y'all do realize that these people might've been arguing for days, weeks, months even years before right?

Even with the cac that smoked his 2 cac neighbors that were talking shyt, they'd been going at each other for years.

They did an episode about it on Fear Thy Neighbor.

You aren't just having one bad interaction with your neighbor then shooting them or getting shot. They literally have multiple seasons and episodes that detail all the shyt that happens before a neighbor ends up killing another neighbor with interviews from the families, friends, witnesses and cops.

Yeah, sometimes the shooter is a lunatic, but other times the shooter is the guy who got a gun because of something in the past. He definitely could've had it on him and ready because that neighbor is known to have his or bring his out.

Situations are generally more complex than "he just wanted to shoot someone" "he was waiting for that".
 

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Y'all do realize that these people might've been arguing for days, weeks, months even years before right?

Even with the cac that smoked his 2 cac neighbors that were talking shyt, they'd been going at each other for years.

They did an episode about it on Fear Thy Neighbor.

You aren't just having one bad interaction with your neighbor then shooting them or getting shot. They literally have multiple seasons and episodes that detail all the shyt that happens before a neighbor ends up killing another neighbor with interviews from the families, friends, witnesses and cops.

Yeah, sometimes the shooter is a lunatic, but other times the shooter is the guy who got a gun because of something in the past. He definitely could've had it on him and ready because that neighbor is known to have his or bring his out.

Situations are generally more complex than "he just wanted to shoot someone" "he was waiting for that".
:mjlol:Bro, i'm not investigating the origin of this shyt. People have beef with neighbors all the time with some beefs worse than others.

He came with the pistol. He cocked that bytch. Man gets a half-hearted swing put on him, pauses to look at an assailant who is now reeling, and then does some John Wick pistol finish on him. He killed a man, and on camera, nothing said that he should have felt especially threatened. THIS situation did not warrant it, so I hope they double fry him.
 

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:mjlol:Bro, i'm not investigating the origin of this shyt. People have beef with neighbors all the time with some beefs worse than others.

He came with the pistol. He cocked that bytch. Man gets a half-hearted swing put on him, pauses to look at an assailant who is now reeling, and then does some John Wick pistol finish on him. He killed a man, and on camera, nothing said that he should have felt especially threatened. THIS situation did not warrant it, so I hope they double fry him.

How'd he know the guy was going to swing? Has he swung in the past? Why did he feel he needed a gun or is he just the type to always have a gun on him?

Cameras are your best friend. I guarantee you the victims wife told the cops "he shot him! He shot him! He just pulled a gun out and shot him for no reason!"
 

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The news has impacted Costa Rica: a man died after being shot 14 times, after an old conflict between neighbors. The victim is Otoniel Orozco Mendoza, a 53-year-old Nicaraguan nationalized in Costa Rica. The events have caused outrage at the level of violence with which Orozco was attacked and because they have been recorded in security cameras.

The incident occurred in front of the residence of both families involved, on Monday morning, June 3, in the Río Palma condominium, in San José. Costa Rican Eduardo Ramírez Zamora is the one accused of murdering him, who is being held in preventive detention and who was seized by the Judicial Police with a 9-millimeter caliber weapon, according to the newspaper La Nación. The Costa Rican Public Ministry reported that Orozco had previously denounced Ramírez for assaults with weapons.

Relatives and neighbors of the two men said that the attack on Orozco occurred in the context of a prolonged conflict between the two, whose houses are next to each other.

Eduardo Ramírez Reyes, father of the detainee, assured that the conflict was triggered three years ago, due to a construction carried out by Orozco in the back of his house, which – according to him – affected his son's home, he reported to the Costa Rican media CRToday.

Meanwhile, the victim's sister-in-law criticized the lack of action by the authorities and the community to address the situation. He mentioned a series of previous unsolved incidents, expressing surprise and frustration at the inaction of both the Judicial Investigation Agency (OIJ) and the neighbors, Teletica registered on its website.

What happened, according to the video that circulates in networks, was, first, a discussion between two neighbors. Ramírez's wife tells Orozco's wife not to close the drinking water tap. Often the two men go out into the garden. Ramírez took out a gun, loaded it, and put it on his waist. Orozco tried to hit Ramírez and then the latter took out the weapon and shot him several times.

Tico made derogatory comments about the Nicaraguan nationality of victim

A condominium inhabitant commented to the canal Teletica that Ramírez was referring negatively to the nationality of the victim.

"The neighbor who caused Don Otoniel's death already had many things against him for years. He teased him every time he went out, threw the car at his wife, teased his children, and made derogatory comments regarding his nationality. He said he did not understand how a Nicaraguan could live in a place like this". The Río Palma condominium is located in the Guachipelín area of the Escazú district, a residential area with a majority upper and upper middle class population.

Violence crisis in Costa Rica

Researcher Carlos Sandoval, an expert in Migration from the University of Costa Rica (UCR), stresses that, although xenophobia may have influenced the facts, it is not the key factor. “ Whether it was the Nicaraguan person (victim) or not, without a firearm, possibly would have had a different outcome ”, he clarifies.

He points out that polarization and access to firearms are the central problems. “ Polarization in Costa Rican society, which turns small conflicts into deadly tragedies, regardless of nationality; second, the impact of firearms on these conflicts, that they could have different outcomes if they were resolved in a peaceful and respectful way ”, he reinforces.

In addition, he comments that this case is notable for society because it happens in an area that is not socially stigmatized, it is not a low-income neighborhood, but of upper middle or upper middle class. This highlights the difficulties of coexistence at all levels, which should draw the attention of society as a whole and motivate the government to implement effective strategies to collect firearms, Sandoval said.

Erick Villalba, criminologist and former OIJ agent, pointed to Nation that the country is going through a deep crisis of violence that causes “ a feeling of collective stress, fear and a certain level of violence that some people have repressed ”.

Costa Rica is experiencing a crisis of insecurity, with record numbers of homicides. Last year the homicide rate reached a record high of 17.2 per 100,000 population, which means an increase of 98% in ten years. So far this year, the OIJ registers 365 homicides across the country.

Between January and September 2023, 10% of the victims of intentional homicides in Costa Rica were Nicaraguan, as recorded by the report “ Nicaraguans live “ the most violent year ” in Costa Rica between shootings and drug stores ”.

¿Who was Otoniel Orozco Mendoza murdered in Costa Rica?

Orozco, 53, originally from Matagalpa, Nicaragua, owned the security company Private Security Costa Rica. He previously lived in the La Peregrina neighborhood, in La Uruca, before moving to Escazú. Neighbors of La Uruca remember Orozco as a working man. "We were neighbors almost 15 years ago. I remember him as a responsible and hard-working person. He always wanted to prosper and offer a better quality of life to his family, that's why they moved to Escazú, "he described CONFIDENTIAL, Ana Montenegro, Orozco's exvecina.

Otoniel Orozco Mendoza, Nicaraguan murdered in Costa Rica. Photo: Courtesy
Otoniel Orozco Mendoza had a security company in Costa Rica. Photo: Courtesy
Orozco's family moved from Nicaragua to Costa Rica more than 20 years ago in search of work. The marriage opened a security company, legally registered it, and both migrants became Costa Rican national. "They did things well. I am so sad to know that his wife is a widow and with five children, one of them one year old, "added Montenegro.

Orozco had filed previous complaints

The Nicaraguan had previously denounced Ramírez for assaulting him with a weapon. The Public Ministry confirmed this information to the Costa Rican newspaper The tile, noting that Orozco had filed the complaint with the Pavas Prosecutor's Office, San José. After analyzing the case, the Prosecutor's Office had made a significant decision.

“ An alleged crime of assault with weapons was investigated, to the detriment of a man with surnames Orozco Mendoza, and then the case was referred to the Criminal Court with accusation and request to open trial ”, the Prosecutor's Office reported.

La Teja consulted the press office of the Judiciary on whether the Criminal Court that received the accusation determined whether the case should go to trial. At the moment, a response is expected.

In addition, the Public Ministry revealed another criminal case in which Ramírez Zamora was involved and his dismissal was requested. It is unknown when the complaints that originated these cases were presented, it is only known that they were in 2022 and 2024, respectively.

On the contrary, Ramírez Zamora's father narrated an alleged harassment by Orozco towards his son and his family.
 

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Reminds me of the cacs that killed each other over shoveling snow a few years ago

I remember that. Crazy cacs on Reddit and some people on here were defending the guy too. IIRC, he shot the woman pointblank in her face with a shotgun.

Then he offed himself because he knew he was wrong and there's no credible way to call that self-defense.

That woman's body probably traumatized whoever had to clean that up.
In today's world, you gotta avoid conflicts as much as possible :hubie:
 

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Reddit comment

"According to another article I found, it sounds like the water was shut off for the building at a general level, but one of them thought the other one had turned it off using an external control accessible by both."

Shot to death over nothing
There's an episode of the Twilight Zone like this.

'The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street.'
 

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That's the thing about gun ownership. The guy with the gun is supposed to de-escalate. Having a gun is an extra responsibility, not an excuse to kill.
 

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Man, I still remember that video.
They were so out of pocket and kept saying shyt as they were being killed :mjlol:

Man just lost his wife if I remember correctly so they figured it was time to let em know how they felt about em.

He reciprocated.
Woman was cussing him out as he blew her head off with a shotgun after already being previously shot :dead:
 

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"I feared for my life."

"Yall see those haymakers that guy was throwing?"

"If one of them hit, I would have been over with." :sadcam:
 
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