Only 4.5 GB of ram available to games on ps4

[satam55]

this is the ultimate charlie brown teacher post BLAH...BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.

I bet you he will ignore my last post.

 

[satam55]

So was this shyt confirmed or not?

No. In fact, it's been exposed that some of his sources are bullshyt. 1 of his sources are literally a dude from some forum called: beyond3d

 

[Smooth3d]

Yo do realize that all the info that Sony & Microsoft have given us are 100% in-line with PS4 & Xbox1 final devkits specs that was leaked in February? That's what everyone is going off of:

I've seen these charts before. And I do believe they are close to being accurate. But some things such as freq of gpu's can be changed etc. And just by having a list of specs does not go into detail on how the sub-systems will work together to produce games. This goes more into dev tools etc. Overall I stand by on what I said all along. The end result will be nearly the same game experience across both platforms. Now I do believe the X1 will be the better overall entertainment machine do to its more advanced OS.

So was this shyt confirmed or not?

Nothing has been confirmed. But we have educated guess which seem to be fairly accurate.

 

[Stone Cold]

Brian Provinciano, Retro City Rampage creator and PlayStation 4 developer has described Digital Foundry’s PS4 RAM rumours suggesting that the system will take up to 3.5GB for the OS, leaving only 4.5GB for games as “absolutely false” on twitter.

He then took to his blog to go into detail about the situation, describing how operating systems taking up RAM is extremely commonplace within game development, and how Microsoft’s upcoming console does the exact same thing.

Provinciano also offers some insight on how the media can sometimes spin a story – it’s easy to misread comments and it seems to have happened to him a few times in the past.

He didn’t go into detail about how much RAM games can actually use, however:

I’m not saying how much memory is used, but I am painting a better picture of how you should be looking at this, and again raising awareness about sensationalist headlines.

It’s clear that a lot of people are overreacting about this, forgetting that in comparison to the PS3, the PS4 is a massive improvement on the RAM side of things.

Nothing is clear until we get the official word from Sony, though known insider (according to Gematsu) Thuway has stated on NeoGAF that there are “games in development that are using 6GB of RAM.”

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/07/28/ps4-ram-rumours-absolutely-false-according-to-developer/

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try again xb

 

[Artificial Intelligence]

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[satam55]

I've seen these charts before. And I do believe they are close to being accurate. But some things such as freq of gpu's can be changed etc. And just by having a list of specs does not go into detail on how the sub-systems will work together to produce games. This goes more into dev tools etc.

A lot of info has been put out on devtools for the PS4:


Eurogamer: How The Crew was ported to PlayStation 4 (And why PC is so important for the next-gen launch.)

 

[Rekkapryde]

nikkas is

damn that "much stronger gpu" talk, show me some games that prove it.

Sony lied to you idiots you spent months boasting about their lies.

Now that reality is apparent, just own it. Quit with the more powerfull talk, own the fact that the ps4 is an Xbox one with gimped online/OS experiences and maybe some compelling games in a couple years.

sucka please.

sad shyt is even with the reduction in the amount of usable memory for games, the PS4 Ram STILL shyts on snitchbox. Can't be mad b/c Sony never said how much was usable for games themselves.

and that GPU superiority aint disappearing.

Sony would have to set like 2gigs of that ram aside for games for Snitchbox to even be in the same league.


Stay mad brehs...


Got a flight to catch in the morn!!!

 

[Teal.]

So they don't even know

 

[PS5 Pro]

Yo do realize that all the info that Sony & Microsoft have given us are 100% in-line with PS4 & Xbox1 final devkits specs that was leaked in February? That's what everyone is going off of:

Thats funny, because the PS4 added 4gb of RAM after there "fake reveal". But you said all the specs were final already
Also, talks about Esram and actual strength is still being discussed and debated. How can that be if the specs are final?

You seem to forget, both companies are trying to keep as much a secret for as long as possible so nobody makes changes that will benefit them over there competitor
I'm glad you recognize what sony did to improve the PS4. And in your world, Xbox cannot do anything to improve its position. It gave you final specs a long time ago, and there is nothing left to talk about. Right?

If things worked like that, you wouldn't be looking like such a total dumbass right now. Now quit the crying, E3 came and went and Forza took a man sized shyt on Drive Club

Yes, remember all those wonderful gifs you guys would post to showcase all that ps4 power?
When you finally get final specs, you'll see how everything works in the "real world environment" which is something you don't understand is all that matters.
In theory is what sony promises, but in reality is what they deliver
Here's reality....

Reality makes you angry, huh man
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/e3-xbox-one-and-xbox-360-games-win-big-at-e3

 

[satam55]

Thats funny, because the PS4 added 4gb of RAM after there "fake reveal". But you said all the specs were final already
Also, talks about Esram and actual strength is still being discussed and debated. How can that be if the specs are final?

You seem to forget, both companies are trying to keep as much a secret for as long as possible so nobody makes changes that will benefit them over there competitor
I'm glad you recognize what sony did to improve the PS4. And in your world, Xbox cannot do anything to improve its position. It gave you final specs a long time ago, and there is nothing left to talk about. Right?

If things worked like that, you wouldn't be looking like such a total dumbass right now. Now quit the crying, E3 came and went and Forza took a man sized shyt on Drive Club

Yes, remember all those wonderful gifs you guys would post to showcase all that ps4 power?
When you finally get final specs, you'll see how everything works in the "real world environment" which is something you don't understand is all that matters.
In theory is what sony promises, but in reality is what they deliver
Here's reality....

Reality makes you angry, huh man
http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/e3-xbox-one-and-xbox-360-games-win-big-at-e3

 

[PS5 Pro]

Oh, and more RAM = better looking and playing games. This is a fact. Can someone show an example of a game that looked and played better because of more RAM

Would more RAM make SSF2HFHDR look better or would that be overkill? I want to see a game that can't play right unless it needs exactly 512mb more RAM than the Xbox 1 can use so I can see the difference on the PS4. Then you fanboys will see what we been talking about

And real talk, no bullshyt. When will a PS fanboy address Titled Resources



Can any of you fanboys explain how this will factor into the final results of game graphics? And has any review anywhere factored in this very REAL feature?
If not, lets talk about this so we can stop using incomplete specs/info as final

 

[Jax]

XBone won't even sell in Europe because they setting Euro=dollar
Sony too but the Quad is 100 euros cheaper

 

[Jax]

@PS4 you gonna address bandwidth though?

Timorous 7 hours ago
I like how you do not take into account the fillrate difference. The X1 only has 16 Colour Rops and 64 Z/Stencil Rops but the PS4 has 32 Colour Rops and 128 Z/Stencil.

In your comparison both cards have the same amount of rops so an important performance factor is not being taken into account. There are no two AMD GPUs on the market that actually have a 50% shader increase and a 100% fillrate increase. The closest we can get (without tweaking clocks which does have other issues like texturing performance and primary set up rate) is to use the 7790 vs the 7870Ghz. They both run at 1Ghz. The shader advantage is 43% and the fillrate advantage is 100%.

Without matching memory bandwidth the performance difference of these two cards is 35-55% depending on the game.

Do not underestimate the power of fillrate. Polyphony in an interview said the because the PS3 had worse fillrate than the PS2 some effects that were on GT4 could not be used on GT5 such as heat haze. Fillrate is important.

I used to think DF was a pretty good at hardware analysis but after the 7 minutes recording mistake, the constant updates and corrections on the PS4 memory allocation article and now this I have lost my trust in what DF puts out.

 

[PS5 Pro]

Yeah thats a trait passed down from your mother

For anyone with any intellectual properties at all who wants to be knowledgeable enough to even speak on these types of subjects? Instead of coming off like some child who stans a console? Here's a deeper look into what I was talking about


Remember gamers who actually want to know whats good between the systems. Ask any PS-Fanboy about TILED RESOURCES and from top to bottom they will change the subject. Liquid to Rekka to Dexter to the others. Not a single one of them will touch the Tiled Resources debate. They don't want to have to acknowledge the Xbox has the clear advantage in every category. Nope

Thank you all for playing

@PS4 you gonna address bandwidth though?

Is this your way of talking around Tiled Resources by asking another question thus making the original question no longer even the topic
I promise to answer you once you attempt to answer me.........

 

[Fatboi1]