Only difference between Quik and Dr. Dre is Dre came from the N.W.A. infrastructure

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Dre comes from N.W.A. and that alone has always catapulted him further along to most cause N.W.A. was a ground breaking group.
But when you compare Quik and Dre based off sheer talent as producers, Quik is better.
He doesn't rely on a handful of other producers to do shyt.
shyt, Dre has relied on Quik more Quik has ever relied on Dre for shyt. (from the Compton soundtrack going back to the early 2000's production work Quik did for Aftermath from Truth Hurts to Eminem to 50 Cent)
Quik got his own signature sound, Dre don't.
His mixing is just as great as Dre's which is really and truly where Dre's true talent is.
Only thing that's held Quik back is bad label deals, u can't get that same world wide promo if u on janky labels
 

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Don't disagree, but Dre has made smart moves. He's put himself in a position to win more than a few times.
But again, don't disagree that the NWA platform was a boost Quick never had.
 

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Quik is a better musician, Dre is the better producer. Dre is great at taking something and turning it into something iconic whether it be beats, artists, other producers or other musicians. You take away NWA and Dr. Dre still has:

Chronic
Doggystyle
Nobody Does It Better
2001

Then you have the Snoop Doggs, Eminems, 50s, The Game, and Kendrick Lamar. There's other careers he's impacted such as Mary J. Blige, Eve, Busta Rhymes, and 2Pac just to name a few. He's turned underground rappity rap MC's into superstars (Eminem), taken mixtape rappers to superstardom (50 Cent, The Game). Made an unknown Snoop Dogg a star. Scott Storch was a keyboardist, but under Dre's guidance, he became a full fledged producer.
 
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Quik is a better musician, Dre is the better producer. Dre is great at taking something and turning it into something iconic whether it be beats, artists, other producers or other musicians. You take away NWA and Dr. Dre still has:

Chronic
Doggystyle
Nobody Does It Better
2001

Then you have the Snoop Doggs, Eminems, 50s, The Game, and Kendrick Lamar. There's other careers he's impacted such as Mary J. Blige, Eve, Busta Rhymes, and 2Pac just to name a few. He's turned underground rappity rap MC's into superstars (Eminem), taken mixtape rappers to superstardom (50 Cent, The Game). Made an unknown Snoop Dogg a star. Scott Storch was a keyboardist, but under Dre's guidance, he became a full fledged producer.

Again, Dre got a foundation with a major label backing him, Quik don't.
But when it comes to the production, Quik is a scientist with this shyt.

Quik got:

Safe + Sound
Rhythm-al-ism
Street Gospel
Balance & Options

Those albums are classics.

The biggest thing Dre did for Eminem was a co sign. Most of Eminem's records ain't even produced by Dre. Like a lot of em' ain't.
Same with 50 Cent and Kendrick Lamar. shyt, Quik assisted with helping make 50 Cent's biggest hit record with In Da Club.
All them other names you named like Mary, Eve and Busta had long made their impact before they worked with Dre.
Eve didn't really even come to fruition with Dre, it was Ruff Ryders. When she got back with Dre, their shyt never really popped.
While Dre gave Snoop the platform, no denying that, it can be said that Snoop helped Dre just as much in the long run too.
Post N.W.A. Dre needed another vocal foundation and Snoop was just that. Thanks to Warren G really.
50 doing hooks for The Game's songs helped him out. He'd been on Aftermath/Interscope for a min but it was the G Unit co sign that helped him out.
As for Scott Storch, yeah he made his biggest hit with Dre but how much did Dre benefit from that? Dre gave him a platform, Scott gave Dre a hit.

Again, Quik don't rely on a handful of nikkas to help him produce a record. Sure, he got nikkas like G-One and Bacon but for the most part it's just him.
Suga Free could be just as a much of a star as a Snoop if he had a label like Interscope backing him.
But you're limited when you don't have a sturdy label backing you.
 

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Also the fact Quik was really in those Bompton streets and Dre was a fraudulent CB4 ass nikka.
 

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Again, Dre got a foundation with a major label backing him, Quik don't.
But when it comes to the production, Quik is a scientist with this shyt.

Quik got:

Safe + Sound
Rhythm-al-ism
Street Gospel
Balance & Options

Those albums are classics.

The biggest thing Dre did for Eminem was a co sign. Most of Eminem's records ain't even produced by Dre. Like a lot of em' ain't.
Same with 50 Cent and Kendrick Lamar. shyt, Quik assisted with helping make 50 Cent's biggest hit record with In Da Club.
All them other names you named like Mary, Eve and Busta had long made their impact before they worked with Dre.
Eve didn't really even come to fruition with Dre, it was Ruff Ryders. When she got back with Dre, their shyt never really popped.
While Dre gave Snoop the platform, no denying that, it can be said that Snoop helped Dre just as much in the long run too.
Post N.W.A. Dre needed another vocal foundation and Snoop was just that. Thanks to Warren G really.
50 doing hooks for The Game's songs helped him out. He'd been on Aftermath/Interscope for a min but it was the G Unit co sign that helped him out.
As for Scott Storch, yeah he made his biggest hit with Dre but how much did Dre benefit from that? Dre gave him a platform, Scott gave Dre a hit.

Again, Quik don't rely on a handful of nikkas to help him produce a record. Sure, he got nikkas like G-One and Bacon but for the most part it's just him.
Suga Free could be just as a much of a star as a Snoop if he had a label like Interscope backing him.
But you're limited when you don't have a sturdy label backing you.

Suga Free could never be the star that Snoop is. His style is not suited to the mainstream. Besides all the pimp talk and all that (not much different there especially these days) but his flow and delivery is not going to appeal to 14 year old girls and radio tastemakers.

Quik has his own reasons as to why he’s not as big as he could/should be. He is crazy AF lol, has had label problems, could never seem to find or push that star that Dre has been able to do several times, not everyone is supposed to be on the same level. Quik was supposed to be on Ruthless but he got fukked over with that too.
 

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Again, Dre got a foundation with a major label backing him, Quik don't.
But when it comes to the production, Quik is a scientist with this shyt.

Quik got:

Safe + Sound
Rhythm-al-ism
Street Gospel
Balance & Options

Those albums are classics.

The biggest thing Dre did for Eminem was a co sign. Most of Eminem's records ain't even produced by Dre. Like a lot of em' ain't.
Same with 50 Cent and Kendrick Lamar. shyt, Quik assisted with helping make 50 Cent's biggest hit record with In Da Club.
All them other names you named like Mary, Eve and Busta had long made their impact before they worked with Dre.
Eve didn't really even come to fruition with Dre, it was Ruff Ryders. When she got back with Dre, their shyt never really popped.
While Dre gave Snoop the platform, no denying that, it can be said that Snoop helped Dre just as much in the long run too.
Post N.W.A. Dre needed another vocal foundation and Snoop was just that. Thanks to Warren G really.
50 doing hooks for The Game's songs helped him out. He'd been on Aftermath/Interscope for a min but it was the G Unit co sign that helped him out.
As for Scott Storch, yeah he made his biggest hit with Dre but how much did Dre benefit from that? Dre gave him a platform, Scott gave Dre a hit.

Again, Quik don't rely on a handful of nikkas to help him produce a record. Sure, he got nikkas like G-One and Bacon but for the most part it's just him.
Suga Free could be just as a much of a star as a Snoop if he had a label like Interscope backing him.
But you're limited when you don't have a sturdy label backing you.

A major label isn't capable of making millions of people gravitate to your sound. Quik not having major label backing has nothing to do with it. Unlike artists, producers make names for themselves without a label. For example, Timbaland and The Neptunes did not have major label backing when they got their first major placements.

Quik's catalog doesn't compare to Dre's. The albums Dre's done are across the board classic from casuals to the most thorough bred Hip Hop head.

Dre did far more than co-sign Eminem. Eminem learned how to really perfect his flow and structure songs from working with Dre. Eminem's biggest album is helmed by Dre. 50's best album is the one that has the most involvement from Dre. Same goes for Game. Game had a Dre single, his biggest single. Banks and Buc were G Unit artists, but neither of thwir albuns or singles werw as big as Game's. There goes the G-Unit co-sign. Dre isn't as hands on with Kendrick, but when Kendrick talks about what he learned from Dre, it is evident that Dre helped hone his talent.

Dre produced Mary's biggest hit. Same goes for Eve. Dre helped Busta become a platinum selling artist again after Anarchy ended his streak of platinum albums. 2Pac's biggest hit is produced by Dre.

Storch benefited from Dre more so than vice versa. Dre took Storch from a keyboardist to a producer. That far outweighs Storch playing keys on a singular hit for Dre. Even then Storch wasn't the only one on keys.

Sugar Dree being as big as Snoop Dogg is laughable. He lacks a lot of what made Snoop Dogg great: the charisma, the laid back/smooth flow/delivery.

And again, major label backing means nothing. Interscope has had as many flops as it has had successes.
 
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Suga Free could never be the star that Snoop is. His style is not suited to the mainstream. Besides all the pimp talk and all that (not much different there especially these days) but his flow and delivery is not going to appeal to 14 year old girls and radio tastemakers.

Quik has his own reasons as to why he’s not as big as he could/should be. He is crazy AF lol, has had label problems, could never seem to find or push that star that Dre has been able to do several times, not everyone is supposed to be on the same level. Quik was supposed to be on Ruthless but he got fukked over with that too.

Maybe not the star Snoop is, but with a major label backing, he might've had more success but with that he probably would've had to water down his shyt. So in that regard, you right.

Again, Dre has had that N.W.A. infrastructure. When you had a foundation like that, that's a standard, you automatically are way up there. Like N.W.A. is a standard.
 

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Maybe not the star Snoop is, but with a major label backing, he might've had more success but with that he probably would've had to water down his shyt. So in that regard, you right.

Again, Dre has had that N.W.A. infrastructure. When you had a foundation like that, that's a standard, you automatically are way up there. Like N.W.A. is a standard.

He created that standard along with Eazy and The others. There was no NWA standard when they started that, it came off the back of his production, Cubes writing and Eazys charisma. He was the reason peoplenwerenjnterest in Death Row before anyone knew who Snoop or DPG was. Suge was a backgroundnplayer before that. People wanted to know what Dre would do without NWA.
 

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Wrong, the difference is Dre has greater idealism and is a better executive producer which makes his songs come out better by not letting artists sound wack and in fact giving some of them flows and ideas to sound dope and sounding dope vocally himself, dummy
 
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The biggest difference between them is the ability to find talent

Quik never found a rap star. Think if Dj Quik found Snoop Dogg in 1992 instead of Dre

Quik was getting the cover of Source in 92 and getting good reviews. But think if he had Snoop with him rapping all over his album
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Quik never found that rapper that was perfect for his style of producting until Suga Free came into the picture years later. And Suga Free is way to raw to go mainstream
 
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