Only difference between Quik and Dr. Dre is Dre came from the N.W.A. infrastructure

[TransJenner]

Again, Dre got a foundation with a major label backing him, Quik don't.
But when it comes to the production, Quik is a scientist with this shyt.

Quik got:

Safe + Sound
Rhythm-al-ism
Street Gospel
Balance & Options

Those albums are classics.

The biggest thing Dre did for Eminem was a co sign. Most of Eminem's records ain't even produced by Dre. Like a lot of em' ain't.
Same with 50 Cent and Kendrick Lamar. shyt, Quik assisted with helping make 50 Cent's biggest hit record with In Da Club.
All them other names you named like Mary, Eve and Busta had long made their impact before they worked with Dre.
Eve didn't really even come to fruition with Dre, it was Ruff Ryders. When she got back with Dre, their shyt never really popped.
While Dre gave Snoop the platform, no denying that, it can be said that Snoop helped Dre just as much in the long run too.
Post N.W.A. Dre needed another vocal foundation and Snoop was just that. Thanks to Warren G really.
50 doing hooks for The Game's songs helped him out. He'd been on Aftermath/Interscope for a min but it was the G Unit co sign that helped him out.
As for Scott Storch, yeah he made his biggest hit with Dre but how much did Dre benefit from that? Dre gave him a platform, Scott gave Dre a hit.

Again, Quik don't rely on a handful of nikkas to help him produce a record. Sure, he got nikkas like G-One and Bacon but for the most part it's just him.
Suga Free could be just as a much of a star as a Snoop if he had a label like Interscope backing him.
But you're limited when you don't have a sturdy label backing you.

Quik produced for Eminem too but didn't get credit

My dads gone crazy
Toy Soldiers
Ass Like that

 

[I love Latina women]

Quik produced for Eminem too but didn't get credit

My dads gone crazy
Toy Soldiers
Ass Like that

I already said that in my 1st post, bruh

 

[JustCKing]

Point taken on Dre showing Eminem how to approach records but a lot of them joints was produced by Bass Brothers, Dre and Mel-Man and Em himself. Quik did some ghost producing on The Eminem Show and Encore.

But the biggest favor Dre did for Eminem was a damn co sign cause without Dre, Eminem would've stayed a backpack rapper. Dre gave him the vision of selling the whole "trailer park white trash", along with Iovine I'm sure. Again, Dre coming from N.W.A. and co signing this white dude with talent (at the time) is the ultimate co sign cause it makes Eminem look authentic as an artist. Plus having a label like Aftermath/Interscope with that push always helps.

The best record ain't always thee biggest hits contrary to popular belief. Mary's Family Affair joint is a hit, no denying that, but compare it to the shyt did back from like 92' to 97', naw up to 99' there is no comparison. That song might've won by mainstream appeal but it ain't fukking Real Love, Love No Limit, Reminisce, My Life, I Can Love You, Deep Inside etc

As for that era of Busta on Aftermath, Busta by that point was washed and corny to me, tho I've never really been a Busta fan like that. Look, MC Hammer went platinum, how much of that shyt was corny? Get my point? Just cause something goes platinum don't mean the music is always good. It's a nice accomplishment for the artist and for the millions of people who bought it and liked it but for the few who bought it and didn't like the album, well, it's a let down.

Not to take away from Dre having SOME hand in producing California Love but you know he got the idea from Quik, right?
Dre heard Quik singing "California knows how to party" and Dre was like and then did California Love. The Remix is ghost produced by Laylaw and his homie D-Mac.
Laylaw Discusses His History With Dr. Dre, 2Pac, Ghost-Producing "California Love (Remix)"

Here go the joint "West Coast PopLock" by Ronnie Hudson that Quik was singing that in turn gave Dre the idea to do California Love


Scott had been doing his thing with The Roots and while Scott is talented, I ain't saying he's a great producer, he's more so a great pianist. He just added a nice addiction to bring out what would've probably been a flat sound or maybe not even existent to Still Dre.

Suga being the pimp rapper that he is, still wouldn't be as big of a star as Snoop even if he did have a major label backing him cause if he did have a major label backing him, he wouldn't be the same artist cause he'd have to tone that shyt down in order to be more accessible to the masses, so it would never work.

But to say he lacks the charisma Snoop has, I don't know about that. From a non commercial point of view and just looking at the both of them as unfiltered artists, I'd say he's just as charismatic as Snoop. Suga Free is like Richard Pryor in a way. That type of comedy and "swag".



Of course he does, to play the music he can't with the live instruments that he don't play. But we talking bout exactly what they bring to the studio as producers.

Without Dre showing Eminem how to approach records and without Dre producing key records in Em's career, Eminem is not Eminem. He's still underground and at best an MC signed to Rawkus Records minus the savvy he got from Dre. I don't really see how producing songs on Encore is a plus in either Quik's or Dre's column seeing how garbage most of that album is. Where's the receipts on Quik ghost producing "My Dad's Gone Crazy"?

What kind of a push would Aftermath give Eminem? Before Eminem, the label was coming off of two flops.

In regard to Mary J. Blige, "Family Affair" is a classic record. That song still gets people dancing and it could stand alongside her other classics easily.

In regard to Busta, I wasn't talking about just record sales. Dre helped Busta revive his career.

In regard to "California Love", people get ideas for song concepts all the time. Regardless of who produced the remix, the original version is the one that became Pac's biggest single.

Why are you giving Quik a pass for using session players for instruments he can't play, but discrediting Dre for the same?

Scott's contribution to "Still Dre" is assisting Camara Kambara with the keys.

 

[I love Latina women]

Without Dre showing Eminem how to approach records and without Dre producing key records in Em's career, Eminem is not Eminem. He's still underground and at best an MC signed to Rawkus Records minus the savvy he got from Dre. I don't really see how producing songs on Encore is a plus in either Quik's or Dre's column seeing how garbage most of that album is. Where's the receipts on Quik ghost producing "My Dad's Gone Crazy"?

What kind of a push would Aftermath give Eminem? Before Eminem, the label was coming off of two flops.

In regard to Mary J. Blige, "Family Affair" is a classic record. That song still gets people dancing and it could stand alongside her other classics easily.

In regard to Busta, I wasn't talking about just record sales. Dre helped Busta revive his career.

In regard to "California Love", people get ideas for song concepts all the time. Regardless of who produced the remix, the original version is the one that became Pac's biggest single.

Why are you giving Quik a pass for using session players for instruments he can't play, but discrediting Dre for the same?

Scott's contribution to "Still Dre" is assisting Camara Kambara with the keys.

The push a label like Aftermath (Interscope) can give Eminem (a backpack rapper) is loads of money to help promote his music to the utmost.
Come on bruh, we not gon act like his label ain't 1 of the biggest labels around who has the money to fund into an artist and help get them to the next level now.
Plus, he was a white rapper and with the exception of a The Beastie Boys and Vanilla Ice, there really hadn't been many other white rappers so I'm sure they saw dollar signs cause he could rap and he was white AND because Eminem fit a lane that wasn't quite there; white trailer park rapper.

Naw, I'm talking bout the sessions players Dre uses, I'm talking bout the CO PRODUCERS he uses, bruh. Come on now
The nikka has always had someone else heavily involved in his mix. Yes, Quik has had co producers but nowhere near as much as Dre has, lol

Quik spoke on helping out on the "My Dad's Gone Crazy" track in an article I read somewhere. I was trying to find the link but I can't remember where I read it.
There was footage of him and Battlecat battling their production work out a few years ago on youtube and he plays it. Encore was bad cause of Eminem's writing and rhyming but album had some nice beats on it.

Here he talks about working over at Aftermath and working on GRODT and Encore

DJ Quik: Yeah, I did a lot of ghost stuff over there [at Aftermath Entertainmenr]. I helped with [50 Cent’s] Get Rich or Die Tryin’ . I helped with [Eminem’s] Encore . I did little … I stood in on some [songs] – you know, when they needed me. And, when they had it all together I left. … You’ll feel me, I’m in that mix. You can [tell]. Some of the snares and kicks, and little tabs and shyt, I had something to do with. But we really showed off on [Truth Hurts’] “Addictive” though. That was the smartest record ever.

link
DJ Quik: Against All Odds



He spoke on working over at Aftermath and specifically Encore in this interview too. 13:00 minute mark

 

[BronxFleeZ]

Only difference is that quik actually makes beats

 

[JustCKing]

The push a label like Aftermath (Interscope) can give Eminem (a backpack rapper) is loads of money to help promote his music to the utmost.
Come on bruh, we not gon act like his label ain't 1 of the biggest labels around who has the money to fund into an artist and help get them to the next level now.
Plus, he was a white rapper and with the exception of a The Beastie Boys and Vanilla Ice, there really hadn't been many other white rappers so I'm sure they saw dollar signs cause he could rap and he was white AND because Eminem fit a lane that wasn't quite there; white trailer park rapper.

Naw, I'm talking bout the sessions players Dre uses, I'm talking bout the CO PRODUCERS he uses, bruh. Come on now
The nikka has always had someone else heavily involved in his mix. Yes, Quik has had co producers but nowhere near as much as Dre has, lol

Quik spoke on helping out on the "My Dad's Gone Crazy" track in an article I read somewhere. I was trying to find the link but I can't remember where I read it.
There was footage of him and Battlecat battling their production work out a few years ago on youtube and he plays it. Encore was bad cause of Eminem's writing and rhyming but album had some nice beats on it.

Here he talks about working over at Aftermath and working on GRODT and Encore

DJ Quik: Yeah, I did a lot of ghost stuff over there [at Aftermath Entertainmenr]. I helped with [50 Cent’s] Get Rich or Die Tryin’ . I helped with [Eminem’s] Encore . I did little … I stood in on some [songs] – you know, when they needed me. And, when they had it all together I left. … You’ll feel me, I’m in that mix. You can [tell]. Some of the snares and kicks, and little tabs and shyt, I had something to do with. But we really showed off on [Truth Hurts’] “Addictive” though. That was the smartest record ever.

link
DJ Quik: Against All Odds



He spoke on working over at Aftermath and specifically Encore in this interview too. 13:00 minute mark

A lot of artists have flopped with Interscope money behind them. That list is longer than the ones that have been successful. Eminem being white was more of a risk than it was bonus for the simple fact that not many white rappers were successful. Whatever ground the Beastie Boys broke for white rappers was erased with Vanilla Ice. There is a fine line between session players and co-producers. Some session players are just credited with the instrument(s) they contributed, but if they want publishing, they then get co-producer credits.

Encore has a handful of nice beats, but most of them including the ones Dre produced/co-produced are wack. That album is nothing to brag about from the production to the writing to the overall product.

Even in the quote, Quik isn't saying what he specifically did aside from claiming "Addictive" and even then he says "we".

 

[BO BARON]

Theres no easy e, snoop, doc, em, the chronic 1 & 2, no 50 & gunit at their peak, no deathrow at their peak, no nwa first & second album, no ruthless records at their peak, no dog food, pac peak before he dead would most likely not exist without dr. dre are you insane

 

[NoChillJones]

Quick is the better musician....Dre by far has the better ear for music...this is proof by the number of successful artist, albums, and singles he put out. Quick can't really say that......

 

[DaveyDave]

Quik was on Ruthless Records with Penthouse Playa Clique and Eazy E discovered DJ Quik and brought him as a producer

I meant he was supposed to be on there permanently but I think it was Priority blocked it.

 

[TransJenner]

Quik has had a very odd career
If he had a decent label behind him

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

i don't like quik's sound, most of it aint even rap and way to fonky was not a four mic album.

 

[Michael's Black Son]

A major label isn't capable of making millions of people gravitate to your sound. Quik not having major label backing has nothing to do with it. Unlike artists, producers make names for themselves without a label. For example, Timbaland and The Neptunes did not have major label backing when they got their first major placements.

Quik's catalog doesn't compare to Dre's. The albums Dre's done are across the board classic from casuals to the most thorough bred Hip Hop head.

Dre did far more than co-sign Eminem. Eminem learned how to really perfect his flow and structure songs from working with Dre. Eminem's biggest album is helmed by Dre. 50's best album is the one that has the most involvement from Dre. Same goes for Game. Game had a Dre single, his biggest single. Banks and Buc were G Unit artists, but neither of thwir albuns or singles werw as big as Game's. There goes the G-Unit co-sign. Dre isn't as hands on with Kendrick, but when Kendrick talks about what he learned from Dre, it is evident that Dre helped hone his talent.

Dre produced Mary's biggest hit. Same goes for Eve. Dre helped Busta become a platinum selling artist again after Anarchy ended his streak of platinum albums. 2Pac's biggest hit is produced by Dre.

Storch benefited from Dre more so than vice versa. Dre took Storch from a keyboardist to a producer. That far outweighs Storch playing keys on a singular hit for Dre. Even then Storch wasn't the only one on keys.

Sugar Dree being as big as Snoop Dogg is laughable. He lacks a lot of what made Snoop Dogg great: the charisma, the laid back/smooth flow/delivery.

And again, major label backing means nothing. Interscope has had as many flops as it has had successes.

How Do U Want It and Dear Mama (both not produced by Dre) both went to No 1 and are just as big as California Love. Lets not act like the work Dre did with Pac wasn't just recycled (U Cant See Me and California) from the Death Row parts bin

 

[Michael's Black Son]

Quik has had a very odd career
If he had a decent label behind him

All he has was him behind him and his dysfunctional family life doesn't mix well with business. Quick never had a businessman around him to handle the business shyt except when he was in exile as David Blake and Suge blessed him with some work during his "refuge" at Death Row

 

[Xtz23]

Dres done too much and quiks catalogue isn't touching his. Dre is top 3, quik is probably top 15-20. I only bump about 3 of the best songs off each quik album. Quiks a legend tho theres not many fukking with dre if your not RZA Premo Havoc or Pete Rock.

 

[JustCKing]

How Do U Want It and Dear Mama (both not produced by Dre) both went to No 1 and are just as big as California Love. Lets not act like the work Dre did with Pac wasn't just recycled (U Cant See Me and California) from the Death Row parts bin

"How Do You Want It" and "California Love" were #1's and borh tied as Pac's biggest hits according to Billboard.

Regardless if the songs were recycled, the fact still remains that Dre produced one of Pac's biggest hits.