Only difference between Quik and Dr. Dre is Dre came from the N.W.A. infrastructure

[I love Latina women]

A major label isn't capable of making millions of people gravitate to your sound. Quik not having major label backing has nothing to do with it. Unlike artists, producers make names for themselves without a label. For example, Timbaland and The Neptunes did not have major label backing when they got their first major placements.

Quik's catalog doesn't compare to Dre's. The albums Dre's done are across the board classic from casuals to the most thorough bred Hip Hop head.

Dre did far more than co-sign Eminem. Eminem learned how to really perfect his flow and structure songs from working with Dre. Eminem's biggest album is helmed by Dre. 50's best album is the one that has the most involvement from Dre. Same goes for Game. Game had a Dre single, his biggest single. Banks and Buc were G Unit artists, but neither of thwir albuns or singles werw as big as Game's. There goes the G-Unit co-sign. Dre isn't as hands on with Kendrick, but when Kendrick talks about what he learned from Dre, it is evident that Dre helped hone his talent.

Dre produced Mary's biggest hit. Same goes for Eve. Dre helped Busta become a platinum selling artist again after Anarchy ended his streak of platinum albums. 2Pac's biggest hit is produced by Dre.

Storch benefited from Dre more so than vice versa. Dre took Storch from a keyboardist to a producer. That far outweighs Storch playing keys on a singular hit for Dre. Even then Storch wasn't the only one on keys.

Sugar Dree being as big as Snoop Dogg is laughable. He lacks a lot of what made Snoop Dogg great: the charisma, the laid back/smooth flow/delivery.

And again, major label backing means nothing. Interscope has had as many flops as it has had successes.

Point taken on Dre showing Eminem how to approach records but a lot of them joints was produced by Bass Brothers, Dre and Mel-Man and Em himself. Quik did some ghost producing on The Eminem Show and Encore.

But the biggest favor Dre did for Eminem was a damn co sign cause without Dre, Eminem would've stayed a backpack rapper. Dre gave him the vision of selling the whole "trailer park white trash", along with Iovine I'm sure. Again, Dre coming from N.W.A. and co signing this white dude with talent (at the time) is the ultimate co sign cause it makes Eminem look authentic as an artist. Plus having a label like Aftermath/Interscope with that push always helps.

The best record ain't always thee biggest hits contrary to popular belief. Mary's Family Affair joint is a hit, no denying that, but compare it to the shyt did back from like 92' to 97', naw up to 99' there is no comparison. That song might've won by mainstream appeal but it ain't fukking Real Love, Love No Limit, Reminisce, My Life, I Can Love You, Deep Inside etc

As for that era of Busta on Aftermath, Busta by that point was washed and corny to me, tho I've never really been a Busta fan like that. Look, MC Hammer went platinum, how much of that shyt was corny? Get my point? Just cause something goes platinum don't mean the music is always good. It's a nice accomplishment for the artist and for the millions of people who bought it and liked it but for the few who bought it and didn't like the album, well, it's a let down.

Not to take away from Dre having SOME hand in producing California Love but you know he got the idea from Quik, right?
Dre heard Quik singing "California knows how to party" and Dre was like and then did California Love. The Remix is ghost produced by Laylaw and his homie D-Mac.
Laylaw Discusses His History With Dr. Dre, 2Pac, Ghost-Producing "California Love (Remix)"

Here go the joint "West Coast PopLock" by Ronnie Hudson that Quik was singing that in turn gave Dre the idea to do California Love


Scott had been doing his thing with The Roots and while Scott is talented, I ain't saying he's a great producer, he's more so a great pianist. He just added a nice addiction to bring out what would've probably been a flat sound or maybe not even existent to Still Dre.

Suga being the pimp rapper that he is, still wouldn't be as big of a star as Snoop even if he did have a major label backing him cause if he did have a major label backing him, he wouldn't be the same artist cause he'd have to tone that shyt down in order to be more accessible to the masses, so it would never work.

But to say he lacks the charisma Snoop has, I don't know about that. From a non commercial point of view and just looking at the both of them as unfiltered artists, I'd say he's just as charismatic as Snoop. Suga Free is like Richard Pryor in a way. That type of comedy and "swag".

And last, Quik uses session musicians too.

Of course he does, to play the music he can't with the live instruments that he don't play. But we talking bout exactly what they bring to the studio as producers.

 

[Waterproof]

Dre comes from N.W.A. and that alone has always catapulted him further along to most cause N.W.A. was a ground breaking group.
But when you compare Quik and Dre based off sheer talent as producers, Quik is better.
He doesn't rely on a handful of other producers to do shyt.
shyt, Dre has relied on Quik more Quik has ever relied on Dre for shyt. (from the Compton soundtrack going back to the early 2000's production work Quik did for Aftermath from Truth Hurts to Eminem to 50 Cent)
Quik got his own signature sound, Dre don't.
His mixing is just as great as Dre's which is really and truly where Dre's true talent is.
Only thing that's held Quik back is bad label deals, u can't get that same world wide promo if u on janky labels

Dre don't rely on other producers also, they both use musicians

Check out Quik credits and you going to see G One and Robert Fonksta Bacon all over them shyts

Y'all need to really stop that shyt

 

[I love Latina women]

Quik came from The NWA Ruthless infrastructure his damn self.

He's not directly from that fold, you know what I mean
He's from the umbrella but he won't IN N.W.A.

 

[Art Barr]

I wish people would stop trying to media pr transfer dre and NWA draw to quik erroneously.
Quik is a cultural scourge that elongates and b*stardizes the wack admin setup Jerry Heller used.
to culturally ostracize west coast rap from being culturally relevent endorsed and focused in scope.

He was offkey, wack bar to bar, perpetrated gang shyt when hiphop was non-violent and elongated the prison industrial economy ideals, direction and think tank.
He only has two records from his debut and that is more mystique of Compton and not about the actual quality of the record.
Just stop trying to make quik into a what he never was. He was never a culturally high care artist and ushered in why artist can not actual perform or spit high quality at all with 2ndiinone too.
Plus continued to perpetrate booty music with amg. That would spawn out of control coupled with Miami base and be used to make all our women erroneously into fodder as well from the prison industrial economy as well.

Just stop.
Quik is the next generation culture thief that pigeonholed west coast gangsta rap Into low overall quality and into the audiophile misapropiation that is the basis for white audiohile misappropiation and music.
He is like the next catalyst for why we are where we are.

Art Barr

 

[I love Latina women]

Dre don't rely on other producers also, they both use musicians

Check out Quik credits and you going to see G One and Robert Fonksta Bacon all over them shyts

Y'all need to really stop that shyt

Go back and read my 1st post and you wouldn't have posted this shyt, bruh.
I already said Quik works with Bacon and G-One, but he don't need a handful of nikkas help like Dre do

 

[Waterproof]

Suga Free could never be the star that Snoop is. His style is not suited to the mainstream. Besides all the pimp talk and all that (not much different there especially these days) but his flow and delivery is not going to appeal to 14 year old girls and radio tastemakers.

Quik has his own reasons as to why he’s not as big as he could/should be. He is crazy AF lol, has had label problems, could never seem to find or push that star that Dre has been able to do several times, not everyone is supposed to be on the same level. Quik was supposed to be on Ruthless but he got fukked over with that too.

Quik was on Ruthless Records with Penthouse Playa Clique and Eazy E discovered DJ Quik and brought him as a producer

 

[Waterproof]

Go back and read my 1st post and you wouldn't have posted this shyt, bruh.
I already said Quik works with Bacon and G-One, but he don't need a handful of nikkas help like Dre do

I guess you never seen footage of Quick in the studio with live musicians, a handful making track's,but carry on

DJ Quik is a favorite of mines have his albums, followed his career, but y'all need to stop this shyt. Quik is a talented producer, a great musician. But after Balance and Options Quick is missing some G One and Bacon

 

[ILLMMORTAL]

Give it up nikkaz,this topic was settled long before the coli was created to voice ur opinions and trying to come from different angles on this subject ain’t gon change shyt! U nikkaz have beat this horse to death and it’s dead! Dre is that nikka, Top dawg,the cream dela crem,cream of the crop and whatever else #1 means,and u nikkaz need to just get over iiittt!

 

[ILLMMORTAL]

Quik was on Ruthless Records with Penthouse Playa Clique and Eazy E discovered DJ Quik and brought him as a producer

Knowledge!

 

[I love Latina women]

I guess you never seen footage of Quick in the studio with live musicians, a handful making track's,but carry on

DJ Quik is a favorite of mines have his albums, followed his career, but y'all need to stop this shyt. Quik is a talented producer, a great musician. But after Balance and Options Quick is missing some G One and Bacon

I've seen footage of Quik in the studio with musicians and all that, I'm talking bout all them PRODUCERS Dre done had help with.
Dre stay with a co producer. Way more than the occasional few songs here and there like Quik.

Both them nikkas fell off post 2000 as SOLO artists if we keeping it all the way real.

 

[ILLMMORTAL]

I've seen footage of Quik in the studio with musicians and all that, I'm talking bout all them PRODUCERS Dre done had help with.
Dre stay with a co producer. Way more than the occasional few songs here and there like Quik.

Both them nikkas fell off post 2000 as SOLO artists if we keeping it all the way real.

True dat,both them nikkaz were missing after 2000!

 

[I love Latina women]

True dat,both them nikkaz were missing after 2000!

Yeah, shyt just changed. Not to say they didn't come with some shyt here and there, but their glory days were in the 90's

 

[newworldafro]

The biggest difference between them is the ability to find talent

Quik never found a rap star. Think if Dj Quik found Snoop Dogg in 1992 instead of Dre

Quik was getting the cover of Source in 92 and getting good reviews. But think if he had Snoop with him rapping all over his album

Quik never found that rapper that was perfect for his style of producting until Suga Free came into the picture years later. And Suga Free is way to raw to go mainstream

Wiz Khalifa relative?

 

[TransJenner]

Also the fact Quik was really in those Bompton streets and Dre was a fraudulent CB4 ass nikka.

Took out biggie
And killed someone at a night club , and various street people

It's crazy cuz when you see how he looks you'd never guess

 

[Robbie3000]

What's up with all the Dre hatred on this forum?

Every other day there is a thread shytting on the GOAT producer.