Only difference between Quik and Dr. Dre is Dre came from the N.W.A. infrastructure

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The lime saying the only difference between buckwild and rza is that rza came from that wu tang infrastructure.
 

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Quik came from The NWA Ruthless infrastructure his damn self. :martin:

Not to mention before he signed he was signed to d.o.c n suges original label

Then signed to profile

Dre left ruthless eazy was literally scouting quik in the studio bringin him everywhere he was goin all in the studio with quik durin way to fonky

Then profile blocked eazy from making that move
 
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A lot of artists have flopped with Interscope money behind them. That list is longer than the ones that have been successful. Eminem being white was more of a risk than it was bonus for the simple fact that not many white rappers were successful. Whatever ground the Beastie Boys broke for white rappers was erased with Vanilla Ice. There is a fine line between session players and co-producers. Some session players are just credited with the instrument(s) they contributed, but if they want publishing, they then get co-producer credits.

Encore has a handful of nice beats, but most of them including the ones Dre produced/co-produced are wack. That album is nothing to brag about from the production to the writing to the overall product.

Even in the quote, Quik isn't saying what he specifically did aside from claiming "Addictive" and even then he says "we".

Bottom line is this, bruh. Dre has always had more assistance in the studio with CO PRODUCERS than Quik has. That's in the credits. Some ain't even credited.
Encore, overall, was a wack album, period. Doesn't mean there wasn't some nice beats but the final product was wack.
Eminem being a white rapper who just so happened to be able to rap and had a lane that hadn't been tapped into was a plus for Interscope and they saw the $
 

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Bottom line is this, bruh. Dre has always had more assistance in the studio with CO PRODUCERS than Quik has. That's in the credits. Some ain't even credited.
Encore, overall, was a wack album, period. Doesn't mean there wasn't some nice beats but the final product was wack.
Eminem being a white rapper who just so happened to be able to rap and had a lane that hadn't been tapped into was a plus for Interscope and they saw the $

They both had assistance. Co-producers and session players are technicalities because both are still adding an expertise to the song that the producer lacks.

Eminem, like any artist a label signs, still presents a risk. Without the proper tutelage from Dre, Eminem would not have been successful.
 
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They both had assistance. Co-producers and session players are technicalities because both are still adding an expertise to the song that the producer lacks.

Eminem, like any artist a label signs, still presents a risk. Without the proper tutelage from Dre, Eminem would not have been successful.

Aight, bruh. I can see this back and forth debate ain't going nowhere and you standing firm with no middle ground. LOL

I said Dre has had more help with co producers than Quik. But it's all good. U right, they both have helped.

And I agree, without proper tutelage, Eminem wouldn't have been able to become the artist he did.
 

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Not to mention before he signed he was signed to d.o.c n suges original label

Then signed to profile

Dre left ruthless eazy was literally scouting quik in the studio bringin him everywhere he was goin all in the studio with quik durin way to fonky

Then profile blocked eazy from making that move

Bloody Profile! I always mix Profile and Priority in my head for some reason.
 

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They both had assistance. Co-producers and session players are technicalities because both are still adding an expertise to the song that the producer lacks.

Eminem, like any artist a label signs, still presents a risk. Without the proper tutelage from Dre, Eminem would not have been successful.
"I'll prove I'm proper and your game is wack with 1 line
I never put my name on a track that wasn't mine"

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They both had assistance. Co-producers and session players are technicalities because both are still adding an expertise to the song that the producer lacks.

Eminem, like any artist a label signs, still presents a risk. Without the proper tutelage from Dre, Eminem would not have been successful.

These cats wasn't around and don't remember how Vanilla Ice Single Handly almost destroyed the White Rapper, after Vanilla Ice was caught lying it was real hard to respect white rappers. The only white rappers at that time that had respect was 3rd Bass and Everlast from House of Pain.

So when Eminem signed with Dre, people was like wtf, what Dre Doing
 

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Not to mention before he signed he was signed to d.o.c n suges original label

Then signed to profile

Dre left ruthless eazy was literally scouting quik in the studio bringin him everywhere he was goin all in the studio with quik durin way to fonky

Then profile blocked eazy from making that move

Yes sir it was Funky Enough Records
 
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I like Quik as a west coast dude, but Dre was what actually helped put the west coast on the map. His sound is universally known, and can appeal to people outside of Cali. Quik is great, and is a far superior musician, but he never had what it took to make it big. He never created any breakout stars, and outside of the late Mausberg, the nikkaz that rode with him were BEYOND wack. He should have shook Amg, HI-C, and 2nd II None, and left them nikkas in the dust where they belonged, but I see why he kept them along with him for as long as he did; and It wasn't so much about friendship). Suga Free had amazing potential to become a bigger underground hit, however he let drugs, and his addiction to pimping fukk that up for him. Quik doesn't have the business acumen, or business etiquette that Dre and his other contemporaries have. He always kept bringing in street shyt into the studios with him. Dre never had his "best friends" shot and killed in front of him by his nephews, or had his shyt stolen out of his garage either. Dre has an ear for what hits, and what doesn't. He was also one of the first west coast producers to reach out to collaborating with the east coast, during a time in which Quik had jumped on radio, and said "fukk the east coast", or rather- "I'm no longer a supporter of east coast rap." Quik is too emotional, and lets his emotions get in the way of shyt too much. He lets his emotions, and alcohol do his talking for him. Just look at the way he always falls out with his artist? C'mon man, get it together! Either trash these nikkas, or find other artist with potential.

Not to mention, Quik fukked up a lot of potentially good opportunities that came his way. Either through starting shyt with other artist, running his mouth in the media, or not clearing samples properly.

Quik and Dre are both for good listening, and can compliment for whatever my moods are at the following moment. But I will say that Dre's shyt just goes much harder. I love his heavy, dirty baselines when I'm driving.
 
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Also the fact Quik was really in those Bompton streets and Dre was a fraudulent CB4 ass nikka.

What does it honestly matter whether Quik was a real street dude or not? Did it help his career out in the end?
 
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But to say he lacks the charisma Snoop has, I don't know about that. From a non commercial point of view and just looking at the both of them as unfiltered artists, I'd say he's just as charismatic as Snoop. Suga Free is like Richard Pryor in a way. That type of comedy and "swag".
Free is charismatic on the mic and when performing, but Free doesn't have half charisma that Snoop does. For one, Free is not a "camera ready" dude. Nor is he someone that you want in front of the cameras for a long period of time; if you're trying to create and control a brand. Free didn't have the business acumen, or the ability to separate his business in the streets from what he does in the studio. Snoop knows when to turn his shyt on and off, and which side to play up in front of the camera's.
 
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Free is charismatic on the mic and when performing, but Free doesn't have half charisma that Snoop does. For one, Free is not a "camera ready" dude. Nor is he someone that you want in front of the cameras for a long period of time; if you're trying to create and control a brand. Free didn't have the business acumen, or the ability to separate his business in the streets from what he does in the studio. Snoop knows when to turn his shyt on and off, and which side to play up in front of the camera's.

Yup
 
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y'all notice every time Quiks music starts gaining traction something always major happens

Yup. I would say it's karma for some of the shyt he's done, and I'm not just referencing the "alleged" street shyt. But it also has a lot to do with how he handles his business, how he's screwed some people over, and who he has around him. I've had several homies in LA, and in the music biz that have told me some rather "unfavorable" shyt about ol' boy, and how lets just say, he's fukked a lot of people over. I can already feel some shyt brewing, and popping off between 80eight, and that albino nikka, Infrared.
 
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